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I got mine in as well. *WHEW!* I was pretty frustrated that after collecting JW CDs for decades, this one would've been the ONLY film score CD I didn't have. I've paid over $100 for a rare CD before (I think 'Yes, Giorgio'? I usually get every release at the pre-order or at least 1st day or release stage, especially the limited/expanded ones so I never have to pay that), but I wasn't spending $120+ for it unless I knew for a fact that they were never going to print another one.
And I suspected since Disney never said it was limited that they'd make new batches, hence why I thought those people spending $500 - $5,000 would feel stupid. The sellers made out like bandits tho... -
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3 hours ago, King Mark said:I Guess it Will .be the ont Williams ost i dont own
K.m typing on a tablette ont tout sussesfully
Man, KM... I thought I was bad typing on a small phone or tablet but you got me by a country mile. Or a hundred!
I do think they will press more but whomever I emailed with is clueless about it and just has standard NPC/AI answers. It seems to me that it's horrid mismanagement, some scores aren't in demand and they must've forgotten that it's a cross-collectible (Disney, JW, Indy, etc.). IMO, they should want to make more because the bottom line usually is to make some money (seems they've been struggling on and off for a while now thanks to their treatment of fans/customers, so that's not even a given).
But then what if someone in charge is like, "Meh, those snooty JWFans think they're so clever trying to save a few bucks on shipping, let's show them! TOO LATE! NO CD FOR YOU!" ... or... "I'm gonna' make JW's last score CD worth mega-bucks by shutting production at the pre-order stage... but having a stash in my basement to sell them $5k a pop one at a time! MWHAHAHA!"- Jurassic Shark, ajc384, Brando and 1 other
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Someone actually paid $5,000 USD, plus tax. Wow. I don't care if one is a millionaire, that's just nuts. Or did they just have more money than they can spend in a lifetime and just spent F-U money?
Did they feel silly now when there's one for $400 bid, $700 BiN? They'll doubtlessly come down some as more people get them and throw them up for sale.
I did write Disney Music Emporium and they said it's sold out and no plans for re-stocking. What a horrible marketing plan... it's an amazing thing that a company so big and powerful can make such mind-numbingly bone-headed decisions like this (and, many things they've been doing for years now). -
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Count me in the group of people who last month or so put in my cart ready to order, saw the shipping cost, then decided to wait and see if Amazon was going to sell it with free shipping in August. And then, if Amazon or anywhere else with cheaper shipping didn't, just go ahead and pay for the excessive shipping from Disney Music Emporium. Nowhere did I see "limited" anywhere, and stunned to see it gone. More stunned to find people all as stunned as I was.
Quite frankly, I'm appalled like I see many of you are as well. I don't post very often like I used to and tend to only log in when something big pops up, but those that know me know I'm a John Williams Soundtrack/Score CD completionist and 45+ years of collecting Williams soundtracks and a completionist on JW score CDs for over 30+ years comes to an end... because Disney -- especially in the last decade or so -- seems to be masters at biting the hands that feed them! Zero sense in what they did here. -
On 8/23/2021 at 11:53 AM, Jay said:
I agree. I had no idea what to expect but damn, the film score just sounds fantastic. No matter what type of cue it is or what type of instrument is being featured, it consistently sounds just terrific.
I agree 100%. The film score is a lot to take in because it's quite different from the OST album, but the album as well. So much more in this mix that I hadn't noticed in the original Varese OST CD -- and I listened to it a ton (one of my favorite Williams '70s OSTs). Really a great release, and worth the wait for me! For a while I was wondering if it'd ever get made! Thrilled with this release.
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15 hours ago, Hedji said:
Hahah sorry Chris. That was my ode to my favorite B-Movie actress crush. She has a bit part in the film (which is the biggest film she was in), but if you want to see a true 70s foxy lady, check out Pets or Hollywood Boulevard (before you venture into Chatterbox )
The pic did catch my eye, I must admit...
QuoteHeheh. I’d forgotten about Yes Giorgio, So I ordered it. So I guess NOW I’m complete.
How can you just order 'Yes, Gorgio'?! Well, the vinyl and cassette are easy finds, yes, but the actual CD is one of the rarest out there. It was the hardest and last one I tracked down, and the most I ever paid for a single CD. West German pressing, I don't even think it was sold in the US, possibly just Europe. And there's a promo/boot with the Michael J Lewis score, and a promo/boot coupled with SpaceCamp, too, but the actual Decca CD... was my bane until I got it! For the longest time I had a nicely done CD-R in it's place until one surfaced on eBay a good 10+ years ago. I never see it listed anywhere, maybe twice in the last 20 years (one of which I bought).
On 8/20/2021 at 4:23 PM, Bespin said:I didn't receive yet my Eiger Sanction CD from ScreenArchive, that Jeff from Intrada confirmed me that they will send me a replacement CD.
I got two sets -- one set from ScreenArchives and one from Intrada (still coming)... do I write them both about replacement discs as well? Do all of the sets have this issue, or just some? -
This was one of (if not definitively) my most wanted expanded/remastered scores!!! We basically had nothing except the OST, which I love. So thrilled to get it. Listening to it now... the remastered OST is excellent -- hearing stuff I never noticed before, and the film score is a welcome full CD length! Been waiting to crack open the recent Blu-Ray of it after I become more familiar with the film score (very familiar with the album). Absolutely LOVE it!
On 8/17/2021 at 11:56 AM, Hedji said:What the?! That's not for real, is it?! Fooled me for a sec! Hade me scrambling to Target's site,
On 8/17/2021 at 4:15 PM, Jay said:Oooh, same here! Finally!
Yeah, it's been a goal of mine since the 1990s to have every CD release of all of Williams' scores. And I don't sell the OSTs when a new expanded/remaster comes out, either. I used to get even re-pressings with different covers and such, but I had to draw a line somewhere for my sanity's sake.
The hardest ones to get for me were the 'Yes, Giorgio' OST and the original pressing of the 'SpaceCamp' CD (before Stefancos turned to evil, he helped me find that one!). It kind of stuns me when I hear 'Goodbye Mr. Chips' is so hard to get, now? -
2 hours ago, Jay said:
Yea he quit JWFan a few years ago now. He said he'll be back when Williams passes
Huh. I've known that guy for years and yet always his thinking is always a mystery to me, lol. Odd that he blocked me out of the blue. I only knew he blocked me because I have an app that informs me and other profiles still see him.
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56 minutes ago, Jay said:
Did you hear the news about the new Always release?
Are you speaking to me, Jay? Yes, I got it a few days ago as well. Enjoyed it, especially the alternate End Titles with the melody of "Smoke Gets In Your Eyes" interpolated into it. I logged in here to see what others are saying and saw my last post had some replies.
Also, I noticed Stefancos just blocked me on Facebook today and what, he doesn't post here anymore? He having a mental breakdown or something? Strange lad, that man. lol -
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I got mine a few days ago from Intrada, cheapest shipping AND fast.
Sound quality is definitely improved from the old bootleg CD transfer of the rare LP, and the prior CD release. Can hear a lot in there that I had never noticed before. Big improvement.
Big fan of this score. Dark, twisted and tormented. Two cues are two of my favorites in Williams entire career, and the others are... well uniquely creepy in a dark room, that's for sure.
Wished the entire film score was also included... damn.
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A few days ago, I was pondering abut the lack of John Williams releases of late... then this and expanded Always drop back to back, nice!
One of my favorite creepy Williams scores. Wished it was expanded (if I recall, the film had some different material? Been years since I watched it, tho...), but I imagine that the new source materials being higher quality than the LP transfers anyway, so I'll gladly take it. That and I always support any and of the limited/remastered/expanded JW releases to support the work in order that they keep coming.
-Chris
PS - Wow, I was gonna' buy it on Quartet's website, but yikes the shipping was sky high for me, so Intrada gets my business. Much more reasonable.- That_Bloke, Yavar Moradi and Dr. Rick
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Nice! We now have another unreleased JW score off the list in Pete 'n' Tillie.
Is there anything in the S&I Isolated Blu-ray score that isn't on the CD or vice versa? I skimmed through the thread quickly so I may have missed it if someone mentioned it already. If there isn't, it will save me time of having to record the music track on CD for my JW shelf.
I got the S&I Blu-ray and didn't crack it open yet (In fact, I got two by mistake, so if anybody wants one for cost, let me know). -
45 minutes ago, Jay said:
I don't see his name anywhere in the announcement:
https://www.facebook.com/lalalandrecords/posts/10154862904893755
I edited it. Feel bad, but we can thank him for other great work he's put in.
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13 minutes ago, Jay said:
Hi Chris!
... Neil B? I don't see his name anywhere in the press release for this title?
I remember your old "crude" DVD rip sourced edit! It was amazing at the time, the first glimpse for me into how much really cool music was in the film . So much has happened after you made that; First, we got the sheet music, which finally explained what all the pieces on the OST were intended for, how to arrange everything, and how much additional music there was that was recorded that wasn't even in the film! You might enjoy reading this thread about it:
http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/19455-complete-cue-list-the-lost-world-jurassic-park/
That led to better DVDrip sourced edits where everything was in its proper order, and synth mockups of unused music filled the gaps. Then the Blu Ray came out, and the sound mix on that allowed more music to be ripped clearly, making even better edits.
Now, after 19 years, all of that is moot since we're getting everything in perfect sound. This is so awesome!
Anyway,
we delivered the bombstick around this time and post more!
Thanks, Jay. Yep, I made those crude rips just using the OST CD, a DVD with 5.1 analog outs, an analog stereo mixer, analog mixer and a MD recorder! No WAV editing or anything, as I didn't know how to do that then (I can now, but I edit very little of anything due to these modern expanded releases usually being pretty close to perfect or a fellow JWFan sending me his edit quicker than I can manage). Crude indeed by the standards of even rudimentary computer work let alone what a studio can do. They lasted for a few years and got their use, but as you said, many improvements came over the years. All can be put to rest now... this set is going to rock.
And I try to stick around, but usually if there isn't a great new release out, I have nothing much to say and then I don't login as much as I'd like to. Off of work for a week too, which enables me to get some free time to log in as well.
And Neil wasn't a part of this one? I thought I saw his name on it. Maybe because his name is on so many of these releases, I THOUGHT I saw it, haha. I can still keep the thanks in for his usual efforts on many of these releases, then. -
1 hour ago, king mark said:
I hate the Hyperspace music tracked over the Hoth search scene. I much prefer Williams original
Me too. Hate it every time, grit my teeth a little bit. It works for the mainstream audience, but the music intended and unused is superior. Overwhelming parts of the audiences don't buy film scores and have no idea the music intended for that scene. It is an example of what I mean though... it works, but many agree they should have not tracked that when the intended music worked so great anyways. Both JP and TLW suffer from tracked parts. In the film, sure, it works, but the intended music would've been better. -
1 hour ago, Selina Kyle said:
As for the presentation of the score in TLW film, it certainly doesn't ruin it for me. It's my favorite one. Actually, there's a moment where they trek through the forest (it's clearly not a jungle) and "Malcolm's Journey" is tracked when they hear the sound of a dinosaur in the distance and all the guys turn with their guns as Roland motions them to keep going, and it's a completely badass moment.
Yes, there are moments when tracked music works. Even in TPM, or even in ESB. But usually I prefer the music as-intended, especially in the case of complete scores. Unless the as-intended music is so utterly bad/boring that the tracked stuff works better. Unsure if I remember the intended music for that particular scene....1 hour ago, king mark said:crap canadian dollar exchange is no good This is gonna cost me about 100$
It's that bad right now? Wow. The USD is working pretty good for me... buying a few things from Japan at the moment means I get a break for a change. It has been terrible for years now. -
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As long-time JWFans know (many probably forgot me), I dust off my old JWFan profile to join in the glee at such glorious releases such as these.
And as many remember, while JP complete will be fun but not a hell of a lot of extras. It is TLW complete is what I've always wanted, as it is the most tracked and worst edited John Williams/Spielberg movie - unusual for Spielberg, as he usually trusts Williams' instincts and sometimes edits the score to the music. This was a rare aberration from his usual methods, as the main themes were clumsily tracked into some of the film's highlights and ruined the entire movie, IMO. It's tracked worse than TPM! Had to listen to my old, crude DVD rips to enjoy it, and crude they were. To have it complete and in chronological... outside of truly complete and chronological Star Wars scores, this was up there near the top. Expanded Rescuing Sarah? Any and all missing music in the dino-chase sequences? Ludlow's Demise properly placed? Oh man... this will get a LOT of play!
Thank you Michael M., and co.! Already know it's going to be as close to perfection as humanly possible on a CD set release. Can't wait for it!- crumbs, Pieter Boelen and Taikomochi
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I saw it for the 2nd time myself tonight and I'm impressed some of you can pick all that out in the theatre. Sometimes hard to tell with dialog and sound effects. I recognized a LOT more in this 2nd viewing (of course, I didn't have either version of the score when I saw it the 1st time). Definitely more enjoyable being familiar with the OST CD and the FYC promo.
Can we have a list that includes all music from both placed in an easy-to-edit order, complete with alternates tacked on at the end? That's kind of what I want to listen to more than cut up everything perfectly chronological (with incomplete cues, it's always jarring). I always tend to listen to it that way until we have a definitive complete/almost complete version that exists for us. I don't mind editing together, but I still want everything (even if, like I said, we need alternates at the end). -
I think I didn't hear a lot of these little cues in the movie because on opening night, every time an Original Trilogy character showed up on screen, a large chunk of the audience clapped, cheered, hooted and hollered as if cheering a live sports team or a live, in-house performance. Couldn't hear the movie for several seconds. Usually why I prefer watching movies with just a handful of people I know; i.e. friends and/or family. Planning on taking my brother in the next day or so with a small, afternoon audience that hopefully won't give an inanimate object film a standing ovation.
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According to Facebook that Michael Trig guy only lives a 3 hour drive from me. Perhaps I'll pay him a visit and extract the info from his skull like Kylo Ren.
And fail like Kylo Ren did.
Did you get the Dial of Destiny soundtrack on the CD format before it sold out?
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