Red 75 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I still don't understand how a score without a theme isn't a score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It becomes generic music. TolkienSS 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vaderbait1 1 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It becomes generic music.I agree with you. A score needs themes to be interesting most of the time. But I still don't understand how you can say ID4 has no themes...there are at least two BIG ONES that appear frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It becomes generic music.If you dismiss scores without leitmotif then you dismiss a vast repertoire of classical music. You dismiss most popular music (artists don't usually reprise tunes throughout their albums). You dismiss... well, basically everything except Wagner's operas, Broadway musicals and film scores. Saying that a score must be generic if it doesn't feature recurring themes doesn't make any sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 A score without a theme becomes generic uninteresting music. I'm not talking about classical or popular music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 I bet you love Goldsmith's Planet of the Apes and Williams' Images. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 Not really. Images is good for a single run-through. It's a pretty unlistenable score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 It's a very listenable score. It's fascinating. And 'Blood Moon' is one of JW's finest tracks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 A lack of theme does not make the music "generic". C'mon Koray, you're better than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 "Generic" means unoriginal and undistinctive. Derivative stock music. You know, like RCP stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted June 18, 2008 Share Posted June 18, 2008 The "stranger" cues aside, Images has some wonderful string pieces that make it worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FattyMcButterpants 1 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 "Filmmakers realized Hans and RCP compose better action music.First of all, that implies strongly that you think RC "composes" better action music; no other logic can be applied. Second of all, filmmakers didn't realise that, filmmakers realised that RCP action stuff is more popular, nothing more.A lack of theme does not make the music "generic".C'mon Koray, you're better than that.I'm afraid not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greg1138 3 Posted June 19, 2008 Share Posted June 19, 2008 Koray - sorry, but you do have a habit of straining your own credibility....this time you've just pissed it down the drain.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Hope you guys don't continue the silly discussion above; but did anybody catch Sherlock on the Beeb yesterday? I thought it was great, and the music terrific. Things like these blow Inception out of the water in both the film and music department. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 It's a very listenable score. It's fascinating. And 'Blood Moon' is one of JW's finest tracks.Hear, hear!Hope you guys don't continue the silly discussion above; but did anybody catch Sherlock on the Beeb yesterday? I thought it was great, and the music terrific. Things like these blow Inception out of the water in both the film and music department.Abso-frackin-lutely!!!! A great show, with a very nifty David Arnold theme, which is as good as, if not better than, his theme for "Randall And Hopkirk (Deceased)". I look forward to next week's episode with relish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I'll have to keep an eye out on BBC America. He mentioned his involvement on Facebook several weeks ago.I'm looking forward to his score to the next Narnia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I think it's going to be shown on a different channel in the US, I forgot which, but check Wikipedia, it's on there.Glad to see someone else who remembers his great theme for Randall & Hopkirk! Do you have the single? Both versions are fantastic! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 I do not have the single, but it is available to buy on Amazon. Me? I'm still saving my hard-earnt for the complete ID4. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted July 26, 2010 Share Posted July 26, 2010 Steven Moffat mentioned on his Twitter page (or was it someone on Arnold's FB thread about it?) that Sherlock was made in conjunction with Masterpiece, so we should be seeing it on PBS over here, hopefully in less than a year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Holy shit what an ass I was back then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 You were a very naughty boy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 I'm looking forward to his score to the next Narnia.Me too, but cautiously. I've got a feeling it might not be what we expect and want. After all, it's a second sequel in a already established series. So I kind of expect something more in a style previous Narnia scores or The Last Airbender than Arnold's epics from the 90's. So there's a good reason not to hold your breath just yet.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Holy shit what an ass I was back then.Yeah but we forgave you. I'm looking forward to his score to the next Narnia.Me too, but cautiously. I've got a feeling it might not be what we expect and want. After all, it's a second sequel in a already established series. So I kind of expect something more in a style previous Narnia scores or The Last Airbender than Arnold's epics from the 90's. So there's a good reason not to hold your breath just yet.KarolIn the liner notes for the newly expanded ID4 Arnold talks about his excitement for scoring the next Narnia and I believe he mentioned something about getting back to that style of composing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted July 27, 2010 Share Posted July 27, 2010 Oh, good then Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Here's the quote:Arnold looks back at the experience as a grueling but positive one. "It was really hard work, but it was great to be able to write like that. That's why I'm looking forward the THE CHRONICLES OF NARNIA: THE VOYAGE OF THE DAWN TREADER in a way. It's another movie that is broad enough to support some thematic writing, to have that kind of excitement again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 That's awesome! I don't really care about the movie, but I'm sure the score will be great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted July 28, 2010 Share Posted July 28, 2010 Holy shit what an ass I was back then.Was??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 16, 2010 Share Posted November 16, 2010 There's a new David Arnold release on iTunes and Amazon: Made in Dagenham. This one will not get a physical CD release any time soon.It's also available on 7digital. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 OK so this is only available in the UK, or what? Quite frankly I'm getting really fed up with this nonsense. All that the music business does is complain about illegal downloading, yet they keep restricting their downloads to particular countries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 He told me he hates mp3s and wishes lossless downloads would be introduced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted November 17, 2010 Share Posted November 17, 2010 Well I wish they would introduce AVAILABLE downloads first Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Arnold has been appointed for the Musical Director of 2012 Olympic and Paralympic closing ceremonies.Source: http://www.london2012.com/press/media-releases/2011/02/best-british-talent-signed-up-to-produce-london-2012-clo.php Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 I guess "Cool Brittania" is back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Can't think of anyone better suited to the job, tbh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Docteur Qui 1,544 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Brilliant news. He'll do a marvelous job I'm sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 That must be the big news he was talking about on Facebook.Cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Great news! David had some fun teasing this on his Facebook yesterday.I hope it means that he'll actually be writing a new piece rather than just putting the music together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Danny Boyle, David Arnold. Good combo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
stewdog1 50 Posted February 18, 2011 Share Posted February 18, 2011 Great news to hear.I don't know if it is by personal choice or directors overlooking him, but I don't understand how he hasn't done more movies. Escpecially with all the epic comic book type movies that have been coming out for some time now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted March 8, 2011 Share Posted March 8, 2011 So what's the deal with Changing Lanes - there exists no track titles for the OST? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 Is it like Horner's Iris?Part 1Part 2Part 3etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 So what's the deal with Changing Lanes - there exists no track titles for the OST?My favourite David Arnold score, bar none, and can I find it? Can I f**k! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted March 12, 2011 Share Posted March 12, 2011 So what's the deal with Changing Lanes - there exists no track titles for the OST?My favourite David Arnold score, bar none, and can I find it? Can I f**k! I have heard some samples once and found them rather unlistenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 What about this new PAUL score? Is it worth listening to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 Possibly. I liked his score for Hot Fuzz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 It's pleasant listen, but rather nothing special on the whole, at least judging by the soundtrack album which only contains a few random cues form much longer score. As usual there is a nice main theme played in many renditons, varying from road-movie clished harmonica to big orchestral, ET's Saying Goodbye-like statements at the end (highlight of the score and an obvious homage or - in this case - spoof). One other cue that I found outstanding is You Gotta Try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The film looks very uninspiring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Neimoidian 14 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The film looks very uninspiring.I've heard some positive words about it. It also has "fresh" rating on RottenTomatoes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 The film could be good (I loved Hot Fuzz), but Arnold's music for smaller projects usually doesn't impact me much. Especially a comedy where there's probably more emphasis on slapstick or scene-specific writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted September 10, 2023 Share Posted September 10, 2023 Didn't think it was quite worthy of a thread itself (and I couldn't find a 'general' David Arnold thread) so I'll announce it here: from https://soundtrackfest.com/en/news/david-arnold-the-songs-live-uk-tour-nov-2023/ Quote “Acclaimed composer David Arnold, whose credits include five James Bond films, Made in Dagenham The Musical, TV shows Good Omens and Sherlock, is bringing personal song highlights and fan favourites from his prolific career to the stage with a stripped back performance never seen before. Swapping out his usual orchestra for a 6 piece band, this is an exclusive chance to hear David sing the incredible songs from his esteemed catalogue including The World is Not Enough, You Know My Name, Made in Dagenham and Play Dead in a close and personal setting.” SUNDAY, 19 NOV – Lafayette, London, UK MONDAY, 20 NOV – The Cluny, Newcastle, UK WEDNESDAY, 22 NOV – Oran Mor, Glasgow, UK THURSDAY, 23 NOV – Hare & Hounds, Birmingham, UK FRIDAY, 24 NOV – Band On The Wall, Manchester, UK SUNDAY, 26 NOV – The Junction 2, Cambridge, UK Something different... but the Hare & Hounds pub is very literally 1 mile down the road from me. Might be worth checking out. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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