Wojo 2,453 Posted December 31, 2019 Share Posted December 31, 2019 2 hours ago, Jay said: Everything will come out eventually! Ron Jones' DuckTales confirmed!!! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Child's Play 2: The Ultimate Deluxe Release X-Files #980005 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 1, 2020 Share Posted January 1, 2020 Hook confirmed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 Where the hell is Ghostbusters II? It's the only blockbuster movie I can think of that's never had a single second of score released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 13 minutes ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Where the hell is Ghostbusters II? It's the only blockbuster movie I can think of that's never had a single second of score released. Chances are that Randy Edelman will have to rebuild the score from scratch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 It's definitely not the only blockbuster score with not a single second of score released, but true, I can't think of many. (Spidey 3) I'm sure LLL was making murmurs about it a few years ago, but nothing came of it. I can't remember if and where any updates emerged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 MV has definitely posted he'd love to release GB2. Since nothing ever came of it that usually means issues with elements, issues with licensing, or both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 26 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: It's definitely not the only blockbuster score with not a single second of score released, but true, I can't think of many. (Spidey 3) Spider-Man 3 has had promo leaks, so at least we have something of that. But in 31 years, nothing of Ghostbusters II. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 It's a conspiracy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 I remember MV mentioning (back in 2016-17?) that once Randy Edelman told a Sony Music executive that LLL would possibly handle the score release, Sony Music immediately decided to handle the release themselves, but all these years later... Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 2, 2020 Share Posted January 2, 2020 That was about GB1, not GB2... and GB1 eventually happened by Sony! And it was very incomplete! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I also remember these comments from MV. It’s why I sold my Varese edition! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 5 hours ago, Jay said: That was about GB1, not GB2... and GB1 eventually happened by Sony! And it was very incomplete! Is there anything that stupid company doesn't completely and utterly screw up? Seems like clueless idiots run the joint, especially their music division. As if aimlessly sitting on the SW scores for two decades wasn't bad enough, just imagine if some genius has the bright idea of doing a Tintin expansion internally without hiring MM? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Found the quote! Quote Ghostbusters and GB2 were supposed to come out on Madison Gate during Sony's obsession with all things Ghostbusters. Initially we were going to do GB2, then in his excitement Mr Edelman spoke with a top exec at Sony who put the kibosh on LLL doing the project stating all things GB should be kept in house. Things might be different now. We'll see. MV Jay and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 That quote was before Sony's GB came out so I guess things didn't change Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 Anyone know whats with DARKMAN, it got delayed or something? I suppose we will see it in a few months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 I'm happy with the OST on that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 No flyer for January per MV. Not sure if this means no releases or just flyer? Quote Quote Happy New Year to all at LLL. Any possibility of a flyer for January? Nope. I have no clue as to when stuff is coming out. May not have anything until February or March. MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 They said last year that releases get delayed or approved so at the last minute that they just can't know enough for sure to do proper monthly flyers announcing releases. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 3, 2020 Share Posted January 3, 2020 16 minutes ago, ATXHusker said: Not sure if this means no releases or just flyer? You included the answer to your question within your post Quote May not have anything until February or March. MV Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post 1977 1,743 Posted January 5, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 5, 2020 From FSM: Posted: Jan 5, 2020 - 6:05 AM By: La La Land Records (Member) This is not a sky is falling approach. We just felt that, after doing this for 17 years, we need a little time to breathe and catch up on things in the beginning of the year....inventory, taxes, reorders of Out of Stock titles, etc... After that last Black Friday batch you guys have enough great music to listen to for the next month or so. We will most likely have something out last week of Jan...first week of February. We may just do a batch of releases every 4 to 6 weeks. We understand that shipping costs are killing you guys, especially overseas, so we are trying to come up with an alternative plan that helps you guys out and keeps our lights on every month. We have some fantastic titles in the pipeline. Lots of Universal stuff coming out -- expanded editions and never before released titles. We have a few remaining Fox titles still to come as well as stuff from Sony, Paramount. MGM, CBS and Warners. However, we don't know how many more Warner Bros titles will be coming out. New owners have caused new policies that may be cost prohibitive for all future planned and unplanned projects we have been working on/interested in. These things happen. We have been around long enough to see policy changes every 10 years. In the meantime don't fret. We have some great titles coming from new and old composers. We plan on being around for a long long time. MV https://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=118900&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=30&r=952#bottom Liking the more Universal expansions mention, hopefully Far and Away and Born on the Fourth of July are amongst those titles. Sad about Warners though, I hope JFK made it through in time, and glad we got Empire of the Sun, The Towering Inferno and the Potters when we did. Dr. Rick, Yavar Moradi, Bellosh and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted January 5, 2020 Share Posted January 5, 2020 That's a very kind message, but I haven't listened to any of their BF titles yet, haha. Also, can WB just increase costs of things alredy agreed on? That's kind of a rude thing to do, isn't it? Is that even legal? Hoping for Far and Away and Hook and deeply appreciate what they've done so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 6 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Sad about Warners though, I hope JFK made it through in time, and glad we got Empire of the Sun, The Towering Inferno and the Potters when we did. I'm a little surprised JFK hasn't already been done, given WB scores have been (seemingly) so accessible for LLL. For some reason I thought it was being worked on years ago but got held up by licensing or something (I'm sure MV commented on it once). Sadly this appears to be the new normal though. First Sony and Fox, now WB, on top of post-2005 scores recorded in LA being cost-prohibitive for the labels. It's lucky the labels took advantage of that golden window a few years back, before these studios closed their vaults again. At least MV confirmed those Sony titles aren't dead... yet. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Why have the studios become so restrictive now? Do they suddenly think their precious film scores should never be heard or something? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Faleel 5,358 Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 46 minutes ago, Þekþiþm said: Why have the studios become so restrictive now? Do they suddenly think their precious film scores should never be heard or something? "What are film scores?" - WB new management 1977, crumbs and bollemanneke 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Sounds like they've stacked the deck with ex-Disney executives. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 LLL must be finally running out of Star Treks! Holko, bollemanneke and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 There's always another one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 minutes ago, Bilbo said: LLL must be finally running out of Star Treks! I guess they sell well, considering how many of them are released. It's a good thing for all of us though -- we benefit if LLL remain profitable and release titles that sell; it allows them to pursue bigger ticket items like Potter. Oh, it just occurred to me, we probably won't see the rest of the Potter series expanded now. That's a shame! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 There always seems to a billion Trek albums on the website so I wonder is it a case of them selling well or just someone at LLL is a big fan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I'm sure they're decent sellers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 There's a huge contingent of Trek fans out there that love this stuff. It's the same reason CBS spent a shitload of money totally remastering whole seasons of the original show, complete with new VFX. There's a market for it, apparently (I can't fathom it either, but they wouldn't spend a bucketload of money on such a niche item unless it was profitable). LLL wouldn't pursue all those scores just because someone on staff was a huge fan, unless they want to go bankrupt! Ergo, they must sell pretty well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 4 hours ago, crumbs said: I'm a little surprised JFK hasn't already been done, given WB scores have been (seemingly) so accessible for LLL. For some reason I thought it was being worked on years ago but got held up by licensing or something (I'm sure MV commented on it once). MV has commented on JFK more than once but I said in a post earlier (somewhere) they have been so preoccupied with other major Williams titles that JFK hasn't been their focus understandably. The last time I checked with Matessino he hadn't even considered the project. And MV (to me) had expressed on the various licences involved in getting this tackled. So here is hoping to see if there is any movement for this year. crumbs and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 14 minutes ago, Amer said: The last time I checked with Matessino he hadn't even considered the project. And MV (to me) had expressed on the various licences involved in getting this tackled. I'm not too familiar with the score but why is this one in particular so difficult, licence wise? Is it just because so many production companies were involved in the making of the film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 1 minute ago, crumbs said: I'm not too familiar with the score but why is this one in particular so difficult, licence wise? Is it just because so many production companies were involved in the making of the film? I think you may have already answered your question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Nuts. Well I guess we can forget about an 'Oliver Stone John Williams' collection anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Frankly I would think it would be more profitable to release Williams' Oliver Stones scores as separate individual releases that come out at different times, than it would be to release a box set of all 3 together. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I would have said the same thing about Harry Potter, Jurassic Park, and those disaster scores, but here we are! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,370 Posted January 6, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted January 6, 2020 I think most people who like JP1 probably also like JP2 and vice versa. Most people who like any of JW's three HP scores probably like the others well enough too. The disasters were proposed to be separate releases released on the same day, but JW himself asked for them to be boxed.. and they probably have a lot of overlapping fans anyway. I think the scores to BO4J, JFK, and Nixon are different enough and have much less of an overlapping of fans than the above examples. Plus BO4J being a Universal film with a MCA (UMG) OST, JFK being a Warner Brothers film with a Elektra Records (Warner Music) OST, and Nixon being a Hollywood Pictures (Disney) film with a Hollywood Records (Disney) OST, just makes it a licensing nightmare of the highest order to try to get all these different companies on the same page, especially when one of them is Disney. It's not similar to how relatively easy it was to get the disaster scores together at all. bollemanneke, Yavar Moradi, Amer and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 I agree that the fanbase would overlap on JP and HP. For me, it's a matter of logistics. The John WIlliams people, the hardcore fans and collectors are guaranteed purchases whether the releases are individual or boxed. For HP especially, I think you lose some buy-in from casual or non-score-based fans when the product is $70-80 as opposed to $20-30 apiece. Not that LLL has had trouble moving that particular product. (In the end I'm happy all the scores came out, and if studios are closing their vaults, all the better that they're coming out in bulk. Just businesswise, it's befuddling to me.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 21 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: From FSM: Posted: Jan 5, 2020 - 6:05 AM By: La La Land Records We understand that shipping costs are killing you guys, especially overseas, so we are trying to come up with an alternative plan that helps you guys out and keeps our lights on every month. I liked this paragraph very much Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Me too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 If I was in charge of one of these specialty labels, I'd simply start releasing one batch of titles per month, always on the first Tuesday of every month, and always only what's already finished at the pressing plant. Anything not ready yet? Comes out next month with whatever we finish up between now and then. If something goes up for sale, it's shipping out that day! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 You should get a new job, then! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 10 hours ago, crumbs said: Nuts. Well I guess we can forget about an 'Oliver Stone John Williams' collection anytime soon. Insert crying emoji Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,080 Posted January 6, 2020 Share Posted January 6, 2020 Money saved! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 I think both JFK and BOTFJ are monumental scores deserving of separate releases rather than the box treatment because of their Oscar worthiness. These are major box office movies with leading stars and if the artwork approval policy falls in their domain as in most Tom Cruise and Kevin Costner cases then dont expect an easy timeline to get them approved. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 Universal scores don't seem to be a problem, so the biggest hurdle with BOTFJ is probably the Cruise artwork approval (I believe, like Costner, he personally approves any use of his likeness on artwork). But he loves Williams and had no issues with Minority Report last year, so it shouldn't be a huge issue. Wouldn't surprise me if LLL did it concurrently with War of the Worlds, just to get both signed off simultaneously (I doubt the latter would have many licensing hurdles either). Those two plus The Patriot 20th Anniversary would make a fantastic year for 2020 Amer and Yavar Moradi 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 If artwork is the culprit, why not take the Tadlow approach? Just draw something vaguely related to the movie and make that your album cover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted January 7, 2020 Share Posted January 7, 2020 7 hours ago, crumbs said: Universal scores don't seem to be a problem, so the biggest hurdle with BOTFJ is probably the Cruise artwork approval (I believe, like Costner, he personally approves any use of his likeness on artwork). But he loves Williams and had no issues with Minority Report last year, so it shouldn't be a huge issue. Wouldn't surprise me if LLL did it concurrently with War of the Worlds, just to get both signed off simultaneously (I doubt the latter would have many licensing hurdles either). Those two plus The Patriot 20th Anniversary would make a fantastic year for 2020 A Tom Cruise John Williams Collection would have been funny too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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