Hurwitz Fan 30 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 5 hours ago, Bofur01 said: Yesterday: John Powell - How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World John Powell - How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (again) This morning: John Powell - How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World (again) Welcome to my world the past month or so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,020 Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 Rambo: First Blood Part II An American Tail The Bride Wore Black Dracula Karol The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 The Lord of the Rings: The Fellowship of the Ring by Howard Shore Catch Me If You Can by John Williams The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Jane Eyre by Dario Marianelli SteveMc and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 ...and Jack Liebeck and Benjamin Wallfisch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 19 hours ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Welcome to my world the past month or so. Yep, me too. Even a friend I was travelling with a couple of days ago commented that I was listening to it a lot. It's just one of those scores that comes along once in a while where the film and composer are a perfect match and the composer isn't just going through the motions. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Empire of the Sun by John Williams The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'm still waiting for the follow-up to that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,532 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 You have it. The Empire Strikes Back. The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: ...and Jack Liebeck and Benjamin Wallfisch. Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Just now, KK said: Why? I don't know why they collaborated on the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Jurassic Shark said: I don't know why they collaborated on the score. Collaborated? Wallfisch just helped orchestrate and conduct. And Liebeck was the soloist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 It sounds very Wallfisch. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 I'm pretty sure it's the other way around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 It sounds not very Wallfisch? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Wallfisch's stuff, at least his more traditional/romantic stuff, sounds a lot like a lesser Marianelli. Makes sense, having worked as his orchestrator for some time and all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Wow KK, you've got 2019 likes, and now we're in 2019! That cannot be a coincidence... KK 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Guess that's my retirement cue. Cya next year! Jurassic Shark and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 6 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Yep, me too. Even a friend I was travelling with a couple of days ago commented that I was listening to it a lot. It's just one of those scores that comes along once in a while where the film and composer are a perfect match and the composer isn't just going through the motions. I keep thinking "okay, this is the hundredth time I've listened, maybe now this track will stop giving me goosebumps and chills and tears....nope, still tearing me up." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Angela's Ashes by John Williams: Still as sublime as ever. Bespin and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Without narration, I hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 4 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Without narration, I hope. Of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 All the King's Men by James Horner Sodom and Gomorrah by Miklós Rózsa Hostage by Alexandre Desplat The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 42 minutes ago, Incanus said: Sodom and Gomorrah by Miklós Rózsa Is that really good, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Is that really good, though? Yes it is. While it might be at times typically so full-throatedly Rózsa it can be difficult to to digest in one sitting thanks to the sheer orchestral onslaught, it contains some truly excellent music, especially the two love themes. I recommend the the excellent Tadlow re-recording. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 One of Nic Raine's better works. It just shows that he's good when given sufficient time (unlike most of his Silva Screen recordings...) The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,642 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Indiana Jones and the Kingdom of a Crystal Skull Incanus and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 A few old and unconventional recordings by Boston Pops of JW's music: The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir Hilary Bray 235 Posted March 2, 2019 Share Posted March 2, 2019 re-listened to Elmer Bernstein's McQ ("I'm up to my butt in gas!") and then Rogue One. Your father would be proud... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Incanus 5,716 Posted March 3, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 3, 2019 Dracula by John Williams: Just wonderful! Bespin, The Illustrious Jerry and Romão 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 The Phantom Menace Isolated Score Ultimate Edition. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 3, 2019 Share Posted March 3, 2019 Return to Oz by David Shire Sinbad - Legend of the Seven Seas by Harry Gregson-Williams How to Train Your Dragon: The Hidden World by John Powell The Illustrious Jerry and Kasey Kockroach 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 7:07 AM, Jurassic Shark said: One of Nic Raine's better works. It just shows that he's good when given sufficient time (unlike most of his Silva Screen recordings...) Raine is working with the RSO, which doesn't need as much rehearsal time. As much as I love Silva's re-recording work, the Prague ensemble Fitzpatrick uses for Conan, El Cid, et al seem to require a lot of prep and rehearsal time. -- Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire -- Patrick Doyle I find myself revisiting this album, even though the film is the worst in the eight film series IMO. It's still a robust and attractive Doyle score (especially "Golden Egg", "The Black Lake" and "The Maze"), but feels slightly off. It doesn't quite feel like a Potter score, and Doyle's arrangement of "Hedwig's Theme" feel tacked on. I wish Mike Newell had been more cognizant of the material Williams left and requested Doyle incorporate more of his thematic material. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 3 hours ago, Matt C said: Raine is working with the RSO, which doesn't need as much rehearsal time. As much as I love Silva's re-recording work, the Prague ensemble Fitzpatrick uses for Conan, El Cid, et al seem to require a lot of prep and rehearsal time. The thing is that the British orchestras are unionized, partly to ensure sufficient rehearsal time for recordings. I guess Silva Screen took advantage of Prague not having those restrictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Rehearsals? Who needs 'em? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 1 hour ago, dougie said: Rehearsals? Who needs 'em? Not the pros that's for sure! The Rocketeer by James Horner: Among my very favourite Horner compositions. It simply soars! Jurassic Shark and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 34 minutes ago, Incanus said: Not the pros that's for sure! Manly musicians don't need no reHERsals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, dougie said: Manly musicians don't need no reHERsals! If you can't sight read get off the recording stage is an age old adage in those circles I believe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 For The City of Prague Philharmonics, the saying is: If you can sight read, you're too expensive to work with us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 The Last Airbender by James Newton Howard: Pretty terrific although they need to release an expanded version of this with the full chorus included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,696 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 8 hours ago, Matt C said: Harry Potter and the Goblet of Fire -- Patrick Doyle I find myself revisiting this album, even though the film is the worst in the eight film series IMO. It's still a robust and attractive Doyle score (especially "Golden Egg", "The Black Lake" and "The Maze"), but feels slightly off. It doesn't quite feel like a Potter score, and Doyle's arrangement of "Hedwig's Theme" feel tacked on. I wish Mike Newell had been more cognizant of the material Williams left and requested Doyle incorporate more of his thematic material. Agreed - the film is an attempt by Newell to make (quote) "a workable film" by focusing on the central plot and, and omitting a lot of sub-plot and bits which actually explain to non-readers what the hell is going on. I'm not sure it's the worst film, but it has a lot of director-oriented problems. I've long felt that Doyle's score, while a fine score in itself, feels less Potter-like than some of the others. Hooper's are a very mixed bag in terms of memorability, but the good bits really feel like they belong more in the Potter world. This franchise feels that it's one of the earlier mega high profile franchises where the first composer sets up the musical world, and by film 3 that world has been abandoned. But it feels like thats inevitable - what composer wants an assignment where the first thing they're told is they have to use the previous composer's themes rather than their own? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: I've long felt that Doyle's score, while a fine score in itself, feels less Potter-like than some of the others. Hooper's are a very mixed bag in terms of memorability, but the good bits really feel like they belong more in the Potter world. This franchise feels that it's one of the earlier mega high profile franchises where the first composer sets up the musical world, and by film 3 that world has been abandoned. But it feels like thats inevitable - what composer wants an assignment where the first thing they're told is they have to use the previous composer's themes rather than their own? John Powell rose to the challenge magnificently with Solo, as did Christopher Young with Spider-Man 3. Those scores were their own distinctive voice but also tonally felt in sync with the franchises they were coming into. They didn’t just toss in the main theme because they were asked to, but also other thematic material without sacrificing their own motifs and musical narrative. Hooper and Desplat did a much better job maintaining a sound closer to the Potter world Williams established. Doyle’s Goblet score feels like a more action packed score for Cinderella or Murder on the Orient Express. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 American Beauty by Thomas Newman: Quintessential quirky Newman which has become his much imitated trademark mix of lyrical melodies and strange instrumental atmospheres. While not my absolute personal favourite, it does have a unique flavour to it that I return to from time to time. The Good German by Thomas Newman: From the complete other end of Newman's spectrum, a deliberate throwback score imitating the dramatic gestures of the film noir genre of the Golden Age. Shows how the composer can with wonderful finesse handle such stylistic pastiche while still injecting it with his own musical sensibilities and quirks. Alfred Newman would be proud. Yo-Yo Ma Plays the Music of John Williams: A wonderful compilation of Williams' cello centered concert compositions which makes me want a film score centric cello collaboration album from the Maestro and Yo-Yo Ma (like he did with Morricone). The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 The Village by James Newton Howard: Such a beautiful and atmospheric piece with yet again very strong musical concepts driving the score. Hilary Hahn's violin solos are while not tremendously virtuoso deft and emotional and portray both the strength and fragility of the main character and the emotional and romantic underpinnings of the story in a beautiful way. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 Star Wars Episode III: Revenge of the Sith (Expanded edit) by John Williams: This is rather excellent in its expanded form, full of dramatic fire. I wish Mike Matessino was given the Prequels to expand already by Disney! The Illustrious Jerry and Smaug The Iron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,094 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Incanus said: The Village by James Newton Howard: Such a beautiful and atmospheric piece with yet again very strong musical concepts driving the score. Hilary Hahn's violin solos are while not tremendously virtuoso deft and emotional and portray both the strength and fragility of the main character and the emotional and romantic underpinnings of the story in a beautiful way. What do you think about Signs? It's my favourite JNH score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 20 hours ago, Incanus said: The Village by James Newton Howard: Such a beautiful and atmospheric piece with yet again very strong musical concepts driving the score. Hilary Hahn's violin solos are while not tremendously virtuoso deft and emotional and portray both the strength and fragility of the main character and the emotional and romantic underpinnings of the story in a beautiful way. You know, I revisited this recently and it hasn't aged as well for me. It's lovely, but in a very surface-level kind of way. Something about those easy arpeggio-figures and accessible chords kind of bore me, or leave me wanting. Maybe because the sound has been often imitated since as well. I prefer the vastly more substantial and trance-like Snow Falling On Cedars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 41 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: What do you think about Signs? It's my favourite JNH score. I have already praised it in this thread a few times. One of his best and actually his scores for the Shyamalan films are all fantastic apart from the last one, After Earth. Regardless of the quality of the films themselves, these two had a great working collaboration. 16 minutes ago, KK said: You know, this one hasn't aged as well for me lately. It's lovely, but in a very surface-level kind of way. Something about those easy arpeggio-figures and accessible chords don't always hit me anymore. Maybe because the sound has been often imitated since as well. I prefer the vastly more substantial and trance-like Snow Falling On Cedars. I don't think it is all surface level though. It might be pretty on the surface level but it is actually a very clever score as it delves rather into what these characters are feeling their world is like even though it might sound like your typical atmospheric horror scoring. There is a great balance between the lyrical romantic elements and the frightening horror ideas in the music. The music is almost written from the perspective of the main characters and the threat they feel from the mythical beasts hemming them in into their small world of the village. At the same time it is of course part of the sleight of hand in making the audience think there are really these creatures threatening this community until the typical Shyamalan revelation and JNH does all this with very effective conceptual ideas. E.g. I think the tribal almost ritualistic plodding march and savagely blaring horns that induce panic not only in the characters but in the listener as well that represent this part unknown threat is a neat and effective conceptual musical idea. But I sort of agree that Snow Falling on Cedars is on the whole a better exercise in this kind of atmosphere and style but it is a very different story with different requirements and I feel more eclectic compared to The Village which has a very unified construction to its sound and thematic ideas. Also these ostinati and arpeggio-motifs are now a staple of modern film scoring which might indeed make The Village sound all too familiar. It is akin to hearing Thomas Newman's bag of tricks or Desplat's sound world ad nauseam in modern film scores. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted March 6, 2019 Share Posted March 6, 2019 You make good points of course. As film music, I'm sure it does its job very well. I've actually never seen the film, so I can't speak much to its narrative function. But it boasts great novelty for its time, to be sure. I think part of it is also how, as you say, it's become such a common trope in modern film music. I've also never enjoyed the harsh tribal/action material much. I can still enjoy The Village in doses. But musically, I don't find much need to return it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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