What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[bruce marshall 1,315]

6 hours ago, Thor said:

 

While Hammer's stuff is legendary, Tim Truman did some superb music in season 5. The dreamy "Helicopter", for example, is one of the best cues ever written for the show. While his music is not yet released (a scandal!), bits and pieces have surfaced on various platforms over the years. This is a selection of some of them. We interviewed Tim Truman about this and other things over on Celluloid Tunes awhile back.

 

And as the soundtrack was just petering out as I wrote this, now on to something completely different, as they say:

 

 

While Young wasn't homophonic in the way, say, Edelman is, his very transparent orchestrations and straight-to-the-core melodies make him less popular than the more striking voices of his Golden Age contemporaries. But he still did some excellent stuff; this triple-whammy soundtrack from 2012 displays that. Beyond this and AROUND THE WORLD IN 80 DAYS, I intend to grow my V. Young collection soon.

Is that a boot of MV?

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

2 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

The action writing in Jurassic Park feels quite similar to Jaws 2 at times.

 

I have it on good authority it's by the same composer.

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

24 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I have it on good authority it's by the same composer.

Hah. It was more the similarity given how his action writing style evolved and changed over time… 

[Tallguy 3,398]

54 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

I have it on good authority it's by the same composer.

 

I heard it was ghostwritten by Shirley Walker!

[Thor 7,508]

On 28/04/2022 at 10:37 PM, bruce marshall said:

Is that a boot of MV?

 

The cover is fan-made, but the cues have been put out here and there over the years (including by Truman himself, if I remember correctly). So not technically a bootleg.

[publicist 4,643]

On 28/04/2022 at 11:40 PM, Tom Guernsey said:

Hah. It was more the similarity given how his action writing style evolved and changed over time… 

 

Tbh, i don't think it did. The first *real* break came around 1995, y'know, when suddenly fans became really indignant about stuff like 'Sleepers'.

[Bespin 8,483]

On 28/04/2022 at 4:30 PM, Bespin said:

It's a lot of music!

 

 

I liked this set a lot, I discovered many new music, and I like the set list, regouping sometimes somes pieces of the same form, same mood.

 

Listening to this set is a superb way to travel in music!

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

4 hours ago, publicist said:

 

Tbh, i don't think it did. The first *real* break came around 1995, y'know, when suddenly fans became really indignant about stuff like 'Sleepers'.

Maybe. His action style got a lot busier in the 80s, especially post Temple of Doom which is probably peak JW busy action writing! I actually notice even greater similarities with Jurassic Park action writing in one of the alternate Streets of Shanghai segments from Empire of the Sun, so maybe you’re right but they still feel far enough apart that I was surprised at the similarities.

[GerateWohl 4,370]

25 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Maybe. His action style got a lot busier in the 80s, especially post Temple of Doom which is probably peak JW busy action writing! I actually notice even greater similarities with Jurassic Park action writing in one of the alternate Streets of Shanghai segments from Empire of the Sun, so maybe you’re right but they still feel far enough apart that I was surprised at the similarities.

I thought, "Ludlow" kicked of a new aera of Williams action scoring.

[Andy 4,138]

On 28/04/2022 at 2:15 PM, Tom Guernsey said:

Jaws 2 (original album) - I'd forgotten just how out of order the original album is, but the assembly and in cue edits actually work really well.

 

It's the one expansion where I prefer the flow of the OST, so I made a hybrid that includes all of the music, but retains the OST order somewhat.  Much more satisfying.

[publicist 4,643]

1 hour ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Maybe. His action style got a lot busier in the 80s, especially post Temple of Doom which is probably peak JW busy action writing! 

 

I'm hard-pressed to think of one *except* TOD which fits this criteria.

[Thor 7,508]

2 hours ago, Andy said:

 

It's the one expansion where I prefer the flow of the OST, so I made a hybrid that includes all of the music, but retains the OST order somewhat.  Much more satisfying.

 

I certainly agree with that notion, but why are you using the artwork for JAWS 4?

[Naïve Old Fart 9,539]

Was that the artwork for JAWS THE REVENGE? I thought that it was teaser poster for JAWS 2.

[publicist 4,643]

[Thor 7,508]

Was it? I only associate it with the JAWS 4 soundtrack release.

 

[Andy 4,138]

57 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

I certainly agree with that notion, but why are you using the artwork for JAWS 4?

 

For years, the promo CD in circulation of Small's Jaws 4 score used the Jaws 2 teaser artwork.  That's likely why you're associating it with that.  (Maybe they used it to distance the music from the horrible film)

 

 

 

 

Jaws 2 had a bunch of terrific posters in its ad campaign, the sunset poster being the moodiest.

 

 

 

The craziest is the Thai poster, which is par for the course concerning posters from that country.

 

 

[Thor 7,508]

Yeah, new information to me. I always thought it was intrinsically tied to the plot of 4, because I've ever only owned that promo -- i.e. a shark following Brody's wife to the other side of the world (or some such thing, the plot evades me), travelling by day, night and dusk!

 

And yes, the Thai poster is a hoot. Plenty of similar ones from Turkey too.

[Andy 4,138]

I've always associated the sunset art with the Jaws 2 end credits sunset in the film.

[Bespin 8,483]

Danny Elfman - Mission Impossible: The Score

Danny Elfman - To Die For (OST)

Danny Elfman - Dolores Claiborne: The Deluxe Edition

Danny Elfman - The Nightmare Before Christmas OST

[Edmilson 7,466]

Today's scores can be filed in the "movies James Newton Howard should do more often" category: The Emperor's Club and Water for Elephants. Both are lovely scores filled with emotion and warmth.

 

Come on, James, now that these Fantastic Beasts movies are (apparently) over, let's go do some more period drama/romance!

[Bespin 8,483]

Nice Varèse Sarabande album which combine Original Soundtracks and re-recordings (1988).

 

[Jay 37,369]

I'll be listening to that one soon, followed by their Hollywood '94/'95/'96

 

I never got around to figuring out if they had any similar albums after Screen Themes, before '94

[Tom Guernsey 2,286]

5 minutes ago, Bespin said:

Nice Varèse Sarabande album which combine Original Soundtracks and re-recordings (1988).

 

Great album and an interesting mix of classics and “what”?!

[publicist 4,643]

[JNHFan2000 2,966]

Alice In Wonderland - Danny Elfman

 

For me this is the last truly fantastic score that Elfman has done.

Don't get me wrong, I think large parts of Oz The Great And Powerful, Avengers: Age Of Ultron, Goosebumps, Alice 2, Justice League & Dumbo are great. But none of these as a whole score top Alice In Wonderland.

 

I do think that Doctor Strange might top Alice and will be one of Elfman's best. I can't wait for the score! I truly hope it's a mix between Spider-Man, Sleepy Hollow, Batman & the first Dr. Strange score. 

[Bespin 8,483]

I was about to post this album yes.

 

I'm currently trying to catch all of these Varèse Sarabande "compilations".

 

[Jay 37,369]

I think 1999's The Phantom Menace and other Film Hits was the last one they did

 

Come to think of it, I'm also not sure if they did any after '96 before Phantom Menace

[Bespin 8,483]

They did, see my pic.

[publicist 4,643]

17 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

I think large parts of Oz The Great And Powerful, Avengers: Age Of Ultron, Goosebumps, Alice 2, Justice League & Dumbo are great. 

 

They sure aren't, not even by Elfman standards.

[Jay 37,369]

17 minutes ago, Bespin said:

They did, see my pic.

 

That pic was not in your post when I submitted my reply

[Bespin 8,483]

6 minutes ago, Jay said:

 

That pic was not in your post when I submitted my reply

 

I admit I cheated!

[crocodile 8,017]

36 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

Alice In Wonderland - Danny Elfman

 

For me this is the last truly fantastic score that Elfman has done.

Don't get me wrong, I think large parts of Oz The Great And Powerful, Avengers: Age Of Ultron, Goosebumps, Alice 2, Justice League & Dumbo are great. But none of these as a whole score top Alice In Wonderland.

 

I do think that Doctor Strange might top Alice and will be one of Elfman's best. I can't wait for the score! I truly hope it's a mix between Spider-Man, Sleepy Hollow, Batman & the first Dr. Strange score. 

I think the theme is terrific and belongs among his best. And, yes, the score as a whole is quite strong. However, I do prefer Oz as an album. Flows to me much better.

 

Karol

[Edmilson 7,466]

Alice is the last Elfman score I truly loved. In the decade since then, he composed some decent stuff but nothing exactly outstanding.

[Bespin 8,483]

1 minute ago, Edmilson said:

Alice is the last Elfman score I truly loved. In the decade since then, he composed some decent stuff but nothing exactly outstanding.

 

Not even Frankenweenie?

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

His pours his creativity into his concert works now.

[Edmilson 7,466]

1 minute ago, Bespin said:

Not even Frankenweenie?

A decent score, but not exactly a classic, like almost all of DE's scores for Burton this decade.

[Disco Stu 15,495]

Frankenweenie was a really dull score.  Dumbo is obviously the best of the DE-TB collabs of the last 10 years.

[Bespin 8,483]

I love Dumbo too (not the film)

[ddddeeee 257]

My favourite Elfmans of the decade were The Girl on the Train and (yes) Fifty Shades of Grey. I thought the storytelling in both was absolutely top notch. I hear a dozen new things in both each time I listen.

[Thor 7,508]

1 hour ago, JNHFan2000 said:

Alice In Wonderland - Danny Elfman

 

For me this is the last truly fantastic score that Elfman has done.

Don't get me wrong, I think large parts of Oz The Great And Powerful, Avengers: Age Of Ultron, Goosebumps, Alice 2, Justice League & Dumbo are great. But none of these as a whole score top Alice In Wonderland.

 

I do think that Doctor Strange might top Alice and will be one of Elfman's best. I can't wait for the score! I truly hope it's a mix between Spider-Man, Sleepy Hollow, Batman & the first Dr. Strange score. 

 

I'm the complete opposite. For my part, the ones you just listed are the kind of Elfman scores I don't connect to very much these days,  i.e. the big, mainstream/blockbuster stuff (even though they might have a good cue or two). Instead -- and since you used ALICE as the departure point -- I gravitate more towards things like THE NEXT THREE DAYS, RESTLESS, PROMISED LAND, THE UNKNOWN KNOWN, THE CIRCLE, DON'T WORRY HE WON'T GET FAR ON FOOT....that's where his cylinders are firing these days (plus his concert works).

 

That being said, I do agree with you that ALICE was his last truly great 'mainstream' effort.

[bruce marshall 1,315]

5 hours ago, Edmilson said:

Alice is the last Elfman score I truly loved. In the decade since then, he composed some decent stuff but nothing exactly outstanding.

REAL STEEL is quite good but , yeah, ALICE is classic stuff

[Alex 2,835]

Real Steel is great, especially “Final Round”

[Naïve Old Fart 9,539]

 GoldenEye.

I don't give a single damn. I love this score! 

 

 

Ok, I've moved on, to SOLARIS. This is, simply, beautiful, and second only to TRAFFIC, as my favourite Cliff Martinez score. Geez, this is good stuff.

[publicist 4,643]

19 hours ago, Thor said:

I'm the complete opposite. For my part, the ones you just listed are the kind of Elfman scores I don't connect to very much these days,  i.e. the big, mainstream/blockbuster stuff (even though they might have a good cue or two).

 

Elfman obviously in on that, as he's relying on de facto ghostwriters, sorry, *assistants* for these since years. Even a Burton score like 'Dumbo' (for a classic Disney animation remake!) sounds undistinguished and vapid now.

[bruce marshall 1,315]

Collaboration with Deb Lurie on" 9" turned out very well!

[Bespin 8,483]

Nice!

 

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

Glory by James Horner

Simply incredible, Charging Fort Wagner is one of my favourite Horner's cues

[LSH 969]

 

A forgotten little gem that got a lot of spins from me back when it came out. So good to revisit it. Being a jazz score, you know already that you're in good hands with Isham but this score also reminds of John Barry (think Playing By Heart and his superb concept album Americans from 1976) and a bit of David Holmes in the more modern sounding cues.

 

Pure bliss, this album. It's laid back, melodic and utterly attractive. Perfect with a glass of red wine. 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,539]

Anything by Isham gets my vote. His BLUE SUN album is very good, Indeed.

[LSH 969]

1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Anything by Isham gets my vote. His BLUE SUN album is very good, Indeed.

 

Blue Sun is a truely lovely album. The piece Miles To Go... Before He Sleeps is on several of my personal jazz compilations.

 

It's a gorgeous recording too; warm and smooth. The Miles Davis nods are prevalent, in cue names and feel.