Barnald 365 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I should add that I enjoy Jaws 2 quite a bit, but obviously it's very much inferior to Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 3, 2015 Share Posted June 3, 2015 I can never decide which part of Jaws I like more, the land part or the out to sea part; everytime I watch it I change my mind, they're so damn good.Jaws 2 on the other hand, I can think of a handful of scenes I like, but that's about it. No contest. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 SplashI don't revisit it often, but it's aged pretty gracefully. Daryl Hannah has never looked lovelier (even with that hideous '80s perm), and Tom Hanks and John Candy have a nice unforced sibling chemistry. Some nice location photography in Nassau and New York City. It doesn't really feel like a Ron Howard film, especially with the lovely Lee Holdridge score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Could've been worse ... filmmusic could've said he preferred Jaws : The Revenge to the original. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The problem for me with JAWS 2 is how annoying the teenagers are. I end up siding with the shark. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,839 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 The problem for me with JAWS 2 is how annoying the teenagers are. I end up siding with the shark.To tell you the truth I sided with the shark too sometimes.I was thinking: "you totally deserve it because you didn't listen to your parents!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 WhiplashKarol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 And? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Twenty three candy canes out of 34 mustard jars.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 Ouch. That bad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 4, 2015 Share Posted June 4, 2015 It sure ain't Christopher Nolan!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I'm attempting to watch A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001), Directed by Steven Spielberg"Ouch." - E.T. and ElliottI'm just not exactly sure what the hell I'm watching, what Spielberg was going for, what Kubrick was going for. The problems are apparent right from the start as Spielberg utterly fails with these suburbia family scenes. This kind of thing was his forte. Jaws, E.T., Close Encounters...mere seconds into the household scenes, we instantly connected with these people. We knew them. We had been here before. It felt real. A.I.'s household scenes (comprising the first act, which goes on for 45 minutes) are a complete and total disaster and I don't think it's because the house looks like an IKEA showroom.The woman playing Monica is a terrible actress here. Again, this is uncharacteristic of a Spielberg film. He always gets a good performance out of his actors. There is such a weirdness to these scenes, to David and the relationship with Monica. I don't know, guys. I just don't know. Maybe this film just requires a totally different outlook. I was there on opening day, I used to watch this on a portable DVD player when they were first released instead of paying attention at school. Spielberg was my education. I tried to warm up to it. I tried to sort it out. All these years later, it's still a mess. Maybe it requires more thinking than I can handle. But then, Spielberg never exceled at that sort of thing. It isn't his style. Even if he were going for a kind of thinking man's Sci-Fi emulating Kubrick, I'm not sure he was successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Steve-o's best! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Maybe this film just requires a totally different outlook.No, it's just a bad movie.Maybe it requires more thinking than I can handle.No, it's just a bad movie. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It's a piece of crap and makes no sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 More thoughts: the opening shot of the waves is just awful. It reminds me of the opening shot of The Lost World: Jurassic Park, only total shit. That's the shot they chose for the opening of this movie? The opening scene with that awkward boring staff meeting that seems like it should have been deleted really sets the stage perfectly. You know at that point you're not watching a good film. No good Spielberg film starts out that bad. We'll ignore the irrational illogical decision to abandon David in the woods and just skip ahead to act 2.Finally, there's someone with charisma in this movie. He seems to be the only normal dude in this thing and all he exists for is to fuck. This is where, for me, it's clear this thing can not be salvaged. Spielberg cons us into believing this will be a kind of anthology film and that we're now into the next story. But nope. He just joins forces with David. Things take an interesting turn for sure. Mad Eye Moody as...whoever, is pretty good. Finally, some good performances, although that "human thing" line is awful. See, like, why didn't Spielberg veto that line? It's so bad. This is where we find the most horribly dated and bizarre Spielberg scenes ever: the Flesh Fair. We get it, this was made around the year 2000. Yeah. That's fucking obvious. What isn't obvious is that Steven Spielberg made this.Hmm...you know, I watched up to the arrival at NYC and I just stopped. At around the point that David meets the dad from the Lost in Space movie, it occurred to me that we already fucking knew the deal about him being a prototype for a line of Mecha based on his dead son. I get that he didn't know this, but it just seems like we shouldn't have, either. Like the film was put together all wrong and this 20 minute sequence of David discovering that he's a fraud and committing suicide should have been like a twist or something. Should we not have known? I'm not sure it could have been made in a way where we wouldn't have known. I just feel nothing for this robo-kid. Yet, I cried when the Terminator was lowered into the steel and when Data died. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 The pro-AI crowd is usually like "it has complex, thought provoking ideas, and it's dark - therefore it is a great movie!"John Williams must have watched it for the first time and thought "whatever Stevie is taking, he was too much of a tight arse to share!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Y'all are silly. Can't you dislike something without trashing it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I haven't trashed it in over a decade, because before recently revisiting it, the last time I watched it was about 2004. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Steve-o's best!Ringfenced. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I actually like the first act of AI. Then again, I wasn't looking for an E.T. kind of casual family life. I mean, come on, it's a desperate couple trying to solve their problems with a machine. During this act the film actually asks interesting questions. It's only when the film leaves the apartment (act II and III) that things start to derail for me. Gigolo's Joe's big introduction scene is fine too (after that the film completely neglects him ... and me).Alex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Needed more Teddy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Citizen Kane: Just saw it again on TV and yeah it's kind of good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It's alright Needs a remake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Needs a remakeThere Will Be Blood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Needs a remakeThere Will Be Blood.A Nolan remake to make it dark and gritty and grainy. The Dark Kane Begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,839 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I love A.I. generally but I don't like much the scenes at Rouge City and I don't like the Gigole Joe characher at all.On another note:Has anyone seen The Car (1977) and if yes, how does it compare to Spielberg's Duel? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I found the Rouge City scenes rather classless and the visual effects quite obvious and dated.Maybe a fundamental problem with A.I. is that it isn't enough Spielberg or Kubrick. It's too much of a mess to sort out.I'll stick with his classic action/adventure films...That one about three guys hunting down a predator in a boat...And his alien films...Oh, God, WAIT, NOT THOSE!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Munich was good, even if it might be missing something. Nice score though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 WOTW is an underrated film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 WotW is sprinkled with terrific stuff in a way that's endlessly frustrating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 No, that was Watchmen! ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 That one too. But that one has more points in my head somehow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I found the ending problematic, and I can't accept Cruise, the eternal yuppie as a crane operator. But other then that, its all fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,018 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It's all very competently directed. And it looks great even these days.But it has one fundamental flaw. The script.And it almost undoes itself by that.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 David Koepp is really hit-or-miss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I know, right? He wrote the great Panic Room and the shitty Spider-Man in the same year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 He must have a really good agent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I will defend The Lost World, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Never really cared for that one. I liked JPIII more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 JP has a nice family friendly atmosphere to it. It's like the Swiss Family Robinson on Isla Sorna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 It should have been Lord of the Flies with dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 Never really cared for that one. I liked JPIII more.TLW is my favorite one, and I despise JP ///. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 7, 2015 Share Posted June 7, 2015 I know, right? He wrote the great Panic Room and the shitty Spider-Man in the same year!2002's Spider-Man is far from shitty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's nothing to write home about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Have you ever really written home to tell your folks about any movie you saw? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's nothing to write home about.It is for me. It's a close second for my favorite superhero film (with its sequel, Spider-Man 2 being first) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I prefer the Tim Burton Batmans, The Rocketeer (you could argue this isn't a superhero movie, but I'd prefer it anyway), Batman: The Movie (1966) and Superman: The Movie/Superman II.I dug that the Raimi Spider-Man movies didn't take themselves so seriously and had an appreciable amount of campiness, but they also had a pretty boring protagonist, forgettable music, terrible love interest and weak villains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 I'm attempting to watch A.I. Artificial Intelligence (2001), Directed by Steven Spielberg"Ouch." - E.T. and ElliottI'm just not exactly sure what the hell I'm watching, what Spielberg was going for, what Kubrick was going for. The problems are apparent right from the start as Spielberg utterly fails with these suburbia family scenes. This kind of thing was his forte. Jaws, E.T., Close Encounters...mere seconds into the household scenes, we instantly connected with these people. We knew them. We had been here before. It felt real. A.I.'s household scenes (comprising the first act, which goes on for 45 minutes) are a complete and total disaster and I don't think it's because the house looks like an IKEA showroom.The woman playing Monica is a terrible actress here. Again, this is uncharacteristic of a Spielberg film. He always gets a good performance out of his actors. There is such a weirdness to these scenes, to David and the relationship with Monica. I don't know, guys. I just don't know. Maybe this film just requires a totally different outlook. I was there on opening day, I used to watch this on a portable DVD player when they were first released instead of paying attention at school. Spielberg was my education. I tried to warm up to it. I tried to sort it out. All these years later, it's still a mess. Maybe it requires more thinking than I can handle. But then, Spielberg never exceled at that sort of thing. It isn't his style. Even if he were going for a kind of thinking man's Sci-Fi emulating Kubrick, I'm not sure he was successful.It is a terrible film. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That much is certain. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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