The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Oh dear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 17 years old and already the main star in a Spielberg movie! Wow. But seriously, I don't care much about this movie. I just wanna hear JW's contribution, that's all... And If JW wasn't doing the score, I probably wouldn't even bother to watch it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Wow! That girl definitely earned this. As much as I enjoyed the 1961 film adaptation, I am really looking forward to this upcoming adaptation. If anyone can bring this to the big screen, it is Steven Spielberg. Tony Kushner is a really good screenwriter. Munich and Lincoln were phenomenal, so I look forward to seeing this. With Spielberg and his team of collaborators bringing West Side Story to life, this looks to be something special. I especially look forward to Maestro John Williams’ music. To think, he was a pianist in the recording of Leonard Bernstein’s music for the 1961 film adaptation. Now, it comes full circle. Maestro John Williams supervising, adapting and conducting West Side Story will be a real treat. I look forward to “America”; that is one of my favorite songs in the musical. Too bad it won’t be until next year in 2020. Heck, I am looking forward to seeing a first sneak peek of West Side Story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It was already a great movie. Why make it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 It didn't have a score adapted by JW. crlbrg 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I like the score we have already. JW has not even been confirmed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 24 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: It was already a great movie. Why make it again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 25 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I like the score we have already. Bernstein didn't like the adaptation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 What a hack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 12:50 PM, The Illustrious Jerry said: It was already a great movie. Why make it again? Normally, I would share that sentiment. However, this is a unique case. After revisiting the 1961 film a few times, it feels somewhat dated, and some key Puerto Rican characters were not portrayed by, well, Puerto Rican’s. Don’t get me wrong, George Chakiris did a great job as Bernardo, and Natalie Wood was unforgettable as Maria; I would not change that at all. Nothing will ever take away from the 1961 adaptation; it’s a classic. That said, it will be great to see all roles being portrayed by actors that share the same background as the characters being portrayed. In fact, here is a couple of interesting articles which show the effort of accuracy looking to be attested: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/steven-spielberg-met-puerto-rican-activists-west-side-story-concerns-1176285 https://deadline.com/2019/01/steven-spielberg-west-side-story-cast-ariana-debose-david-alvarez-josh-andres-rivera-rachel-zegler-1202535002/ I have confidence in Spielberg and his team. This looks to be a treat. Now that I think about it, I have not seen a really great musical in a long time. The most recent musical I saw was Les Misérable; it was okay, but I had a few issues with it (Russel Crowe autotuned for one thing). The last great musical I saw (not counting Disney animated feature films) was Fiddler On the Roof. I heard La La Land was good, but I have no real interest in seeing it. Anyway, I would not call West Side Story a remake. This is more of an adaptation of the original 1957 Broadway musical, and NOT a remake of the 1961 film. Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Interesting, they're going period rather than contemporary. Didn't expect that! Jacck 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 3 hours ago, JohnnyD said: I heard La La Land was good, but I have no real interest in seeing it. La La Land was great and is probably one of my favourite films of the century. You should definitely make a point to see it. While I can understand, eh, you're reasoning Johnny, I do not share it. Enjoy the film! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 La La Land is one of the most pretentious, godawful pieces of shit I've ever wasted two hours of my life enduring. I wish I could have that time back so I could waste it on something meaningful, like drinking alcohol. John and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I hated that movie crumbs and The Illustrious Jerry 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I liked it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 21 minutes ago, crumbs said: La La Land is one of the most pretentious, godawful pieces of shit I've ever wasted two hours of my life enduring. I think they've stepped up their game with the release of the JW HP collection. Naïve Old Fart and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Every time I hear underage girls getting major roles like this in Hollywood, I can't help but get a bad taste in my mouth. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 You mean, like Jodie Foster? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 1 hour ago, Jay said: I hated that movie Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 Because he can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 I was bored, the songs did nothing for me, it was excruciating to get through. I didn't really like Whiplash either. The Illustrious Jerry 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 WHIPLASH isn't bad, as long as one remembers that it's PYGMALION with a drum kit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 5 hours ago, Jay said: I was bored, the songs did nothing for me, it was excruciating to get through. That's disappointing. It's probably my favourite film of the century. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 No reason to be disappointed by other people's opinions. I'm sure there's plenty of movies I love that you wouldn't like crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, Jay said: No reason to be disappointed by other people's opinions. I'm sure there's plenty of movies I love that you wouldn't like Thanks Jay! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 No need to thank people for stating the obvious. crumbs and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,553 Posted January 17, 2019 Share Posted January 17, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 6:20 PM, Jurassic Shark said: Bernstein didn't like the adaptation. What Elmer Bernstein thinks of it, is up to him. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/18/2019 at 12:06 AM, Richard said: What Elmer Bernstein thinks of it, is up to him. It wasn't enough western-like! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: No need to thank people for stating the obvious. Thanks Shark! * *denotes me being able to say anything and still making it appear that it's done with a smile Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 18, 2019 Share Posted January 18, 2019 On 1/16/2019 at 1:40 PM, JohnnyD said: Normally, I would share that sentiment. However, this is a unique case. After revisiting the 1961 film a few times, it feels somewhat dated, and some key Puerto Rican characters were not portrayed by, well, Puerto Rican’s. Don’t get me wrong, George Chakiris did a great job as Bernardo, and Natalie Wood was unforgettable as Maria; I would not change that at all. Nothing will ever take away from the 1961 adaptation; it’s a classic. That said, it will be great to see all roles being portrayed by actors that share the same background as the characters being portrayed. In fact, here is a couple of interesting articles which show the effort of accuracy looking to be attested: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/steven-spielberg-met-puerto-rican-activists-west-side-story-concerns-1176285 https://deadline.com/2019/01/steven-spielberg-west-side-story-cast-ariana-debose-david-alvarez-josh-andres-rivera-rachel-zegler-1202535002/ I have confidence in Spielberg and his team. This looks to be a treat. Now that I think about it, I have not seen a really great musical in a long time. The most recent musical I saw was Les Misérable; it was okay, but I had a few issues with it (Russel Crowe autotuned for one thing). The last great musical I saw was Fiddler On the Roof. I heard La La Land was good, but I have no real interest in seeing it. Anyway, I would not call West Side Story a remake. This is more of an adaptation of the original 1957 Broadway musical, and NOT a remake of the 1961 film. To your last point, its not a major enough departure to draw the distinction, so to call it a remake wouldn't be wholly inaccurate. I also think this is a completely unnecessary remake, I would have much preferred for Speilberg for his first and only musical to try something never done before but this is fine. I think at the very least it will have great direction. I am expecting some bravura single takes from Spielberg. La La Land is an outrageously overrated musical. It also seems to abandon the musical concept is the second half which is a normal movie if I remember correctly. I think Chicago and Moulin Rouge were both very good musicals and great examples of the genre. Les Miserables was awful. It had more shouting lyrics than singing. Mary Poppins has a good score but dunno if the movie is good. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 Zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted January 20, 2019 Share Posted January 20, 2019 I loved La La Land, these comments are breaking my heart 😭 The Illustrious Jerry and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
p0llux 400 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I liked La La Land. Good plot. Fun and simple music/songs. However, the singing performances were just borderline average. Still not convinced Justin Hurwitz is an Oscar winning composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 8 hours ago, Alex said: I loved La La Land, these comments are breaking my heart 😭 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Whiplash is a masterpiece, one of Chazell's best. Didn't bother seeing La La Land because I'm generally not into musicals. I wonder if they do bring Williams on to West Side Story if they'll write new songs and score. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 2 hours ago, p0llux said: Still not convinced Justin Hurwitz is an Oscar winning composer. If this doesn't convince you I'm not sure what will Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 I adored Whiplash yet absolutely hated La La Land. And that's perfectly okay; art is subjective after all. The music is fine in LLL, I just thought the film itself was pretentious garbage. A feature-length demonstration of Hollywood fellating itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Whiplash is great however the “Rushing or Dragging” scene gives me anxiety Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Video? Can't remember exactly the scene you're referring to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted January 21, 2019 Author Share Posted January 21, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,319 Posted January 21, 2019 Share Posted January 21, 2019 Ahh, yes! Anxiety-inducing stuff. I've always wondered if Williams has ever had moments like that teacher at recording sessions in the past. I read he was particularly stringent about the percussion passages on TLW but who knows it that's true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted January 22, 2019 Author Share Posted January 22, 2019 Came across this, short quote from Sondheim about the movie, at 21:10 Quote The script by Tony Kushner is absolutely brilliant as far as I'm concerned. It's quite different, not in plot and not the characters but in terms of treatment -- influenced, of course, by Spielberg and his imagination. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,844 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I had no idea Kushner worked on the script. At least this means the dialogue will flow well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 Jared Kushner? TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 9:05 AM, crumbs said: Ahh, yes! Anxiety-inducing stuff. I've always wondered if Williams has ever had moments like that teacher at recording sessions in the past. I read he was particularly stringent about the percussion passages on TLW but who knows it that's true. I heard he chucked a chair a Yo Yo Ma once during the Memoirs of a Geisha recording sessions crlbrg, The Illustrious Jerry and crumbs 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 7 hours ago, Alex said: I heard he chucked a chair a Yo Yo Ma once during the Memoirs of a Geisha recording sessions Not to mention the "yo mama" insult he directed towards Yo Yo Ma. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Alex 2,835 Posted January 22, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 22, 2019 Brainstorming some potential track titles for JW Scherzo for Maracas and Orchestra Mambo! for Harp Sharks Cage Fugue Maria’s Theme Somewhere (NOT in my memory) tannhauser, Once and Jurassic Shark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tannhauser 101 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 New York, 1957 The Adventures of Tony The Shark Theme The Immigration Scene America (and the dream doesn’t go on) Remembering Officer Krupke and Finale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,091 Posted January 22, 2019 Share Posted January 22, 2019 I Could Have Danced More Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted January 23, 2019 Share Posted January 23, 2019 On 1/21/2019 at 4:05 AM, crumbs said: Ahh, yes! Anxiety-inducing stuff. I've always wondered if Williams has ever had moments like that teacher Too bad that is inaccurate! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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