BloodBoal 7,538 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedBard 71 Posted January 27, 2015 Share Posted January 27, 2015 Darn it. You out-cuted me with your picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 28, 2015 Share Posted January 28, 2015 Rule 39. Sigh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I just wrote this at FSM.I don't know if any jwfan member wants to chime in and say something on this:But I wanted to address another thing that I don't know if it has been mentioned.Is track 1 in Disc 1 the film version?At exactly 1.30 there is a "wrong" note. (it's the 2nd note the 3rd time the 3-note motif plays - well the 1st time isn't heard so it's basically the 2nd time)It should be an A, and it's almost an A#.I just checked my Bluray, and the wrong note isn't there! The performance is right.So, is this track an alternate version?By the way, I just checked 1st track in Disc 2, and the performance is right too there (approx. at 1.29), and you can also hear the 1st statement of the 3-note motif as on the Bluray.So maybe THIS is the film version? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I've already noted this error in performance for the previous edition, it was on one of the disc 2 alternates. I haven't really listened to the new set yet. This is what Neil said: Quote "Main Title" is a previously unreleased mix, designated "70mm" on all our tapes. The "35mm" mix is closer to the film version (it may be the film version) and is the "alt 2" on disc 2. The reason for that decision is because we used the "35mm" mix there in 2010. It's the same take (note the squeak at the start, it's there in the movie, too) just a different mix. It's more complicated than that though, check my notes at the FSM board. The film version is a composite that hasn't been replicated exactly, I seem to remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 I see. But now it's the first track on Disc 1.(edit: it's the las track on Disc 2 too as you said. The only right performance of the 3 then is track 1 of disc 2)Any link to your FSM post?I guess the film version then is a composite of the album version with the right note at that spot, and the errored performance for other passages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted March 20, 2015 Share Posted March 20, 2015 This is my post from 2013:So I've done some quick comparisons between the main title versions. A couple of notes:- Batman: Album Version from 0:00-1:20 and 2:20-end = Alternate 2 on the LLL:Around 1:20 it’s different from Alternate 2 (a give-away is the error in Alternate 2 around 1:31); I’m not sure where Alternate 2 kicks in again (I think around 2:20).- In the very last beat of the Album Version there seems to be a kind of ‘hiccup’ that isn’t there in Alternate 2 (perhaps some form of clipping again during mastering?).- Batman: the Film Version is just a film mix of the album version (it’s the same recording I think) – except perhaps for the clipped section, which also seems to be shortened by less than half a second at the very beginning of that section (notice the first of the pairs of beats coming in half a second earlier than the album version).I think it's probably just the same recording, but it’s been clipped either due to amplifying that part (because of the different mix) or to micro-editing it.It's also possible they mixed in an insert from another recording of course. (Just like the part between 1:20 and approx. 2:20 of the album version may be an insert? It's certainly not from either Alternate 1 or 2.)- Alternate 1 seems to be the only true (entire) alternate available of the Batman theme. This pertains to the first LLL release of course.Anyway, it's weird that the '70 mm mix' contains the same error. I'm getting more confused each time they rerelease this filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 Just wanted to ask, did anyone got any response/confirmation when he sent an email for the replacement disc?I haven't got any yet...I wonder if they reply or they just send the discs and they show up one day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 You should get a shipping confirmation, the same way you get for normal orders.I got my disc two months ago...Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted March 21, 2015 Share Posted March 21, 2015 You should get a shipping confirmation, the same way you get for normal orders.I got my disc two months ago...KarolI see, thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 8, 2015 Author Share Posted July 8, 2015 Nice piece from Jim Titus on the new artwork he did for the collection, including early unused cover designshttps://www.behance.net/gallery/22501737/The-Danny-Elfman-Batman-Collection Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Cool that he gets to share these little behind-the-scenes stories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 They remastered the packaging too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Interestingly they have all these obligations to only use the existing soundtrack imagery, which must be sometimes really annoying and frustrating, especially when the images themselves are not up to the quality the designer was aiming for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 In this case, the imagery was all iconic and awesome.I like the alternate cover that blends the '89 logo with the Returns snow teaser poster logo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 9, 2015 Author Share Posted July 9, 2015 YES that looks awesome, I wish they had used it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 I like that one too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted July 9, 2015 Share Posted July 9, 2015 Yeah, it is better.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted January 16, 2016 Share Posted January 16, 2016 Just wanted to confirm that the so-called 70mm mix (the new 'main title' on disc 1) is exactly the same as alternate 2 on disc 2. (Maybe it has a slightly better mix or so, but it's definitely the exact same performance and track.) And to reiterate, this "alternate 2" has been partially used (but mixed differently) to create the film version/album version (which are almost identical to each other) - see my notes above. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 I just purchased a sealed boxset and sent a mail for a replacement CD. :-( Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Bespin, you just broke the forum rules. Please familiarize yourself with them before posting again. Thank you Quote 07 - You may embed videos of - or include a link to sites that stream - copyrighted material. However, links to sites where copyrighted material can be illegally downloaded are not allowed. You may link to legal streaming/download sites or to places where people can listen to your own compositions or recordings, for example. 08 - Discussion of music CDs before they are in stores (ie when they "leak" to the internet) is allowed, as is discussion of leaked recording sessions, sheet music, and other bootlegs. HOWEVER: a) You may not post a link to, or name of, any site where this material can be illegally downloaded. b) You may not offer on the public forums to send this material to anybody who PMs you. c) You may not ask on the public forums for somebody to PM you a link to this material. In other words: On the public forums, please discuss the music only, and not where to get it. This rule will be strictly enforced. https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/20175-forum-rules-please-read-before-posting/ Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Doesn't a YouTube video technically download to your device? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Totally sorry I edited my post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 22, 2019 Author Share Posted November 22, 2019 Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 2 hours ago, Thekthithm said: Doesn't a YouTube video technically download to your device? It does not. It streams to your device. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 4 hours ago, Stefancos said: It does not. It streams to your device. But that's still downloading to your device, even if it's only there temporarily. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 22, 2019 Share Posted November 22, 2019 Anyone have a copy of the Prince Batman album? If so, congrats! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted November 23, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted November 23, 2019 I do! It’s not close to my favorite Prince album, but it is definitely my favorite Batman-themed Prince album Naïve Old Fart, Kasey Kockroach and Gruesome Son of a Bitch 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted November 23, 2019 Share Posted November 23, 2019 4 hours ago, mstrox said: I do! It’s not close to my favorite Prince album... SIGN O' THE TIMES If you keep your records/CDs in artist/chronological order, Mike, then it is close to your favourite Prince album Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Do you think La-La Land still send the replacement disc? I've received no answer to my email yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/batman-composer-danny-elfman-says-turning-down-prince-was-biggest-most-stressful-gamble-of-his-career-192951834.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 He does use Prince's Scandalous melody in the score. So there was some level of participation there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 1 minute ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: He does use Prince's Scandalous melody in the score. So there was some level of participation there. I always thought the theme was Elfman until I bought this set, however I love the use of it in the score and not in Prince's song. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 You don't like Prince's song? Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 Elfman's score aged well... Prince's one... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 24, 2019 Share Posted November 24, 2019 They're both great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Quote Last Call...Danny Elfman Batman collection 40 left Exclusively on the la la land records website Get it now before it's gone forever https://lalalandrecords.com/danny-elfman-batman-collection-the-limited-edition-4-cd-set/ https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=145289&forumID=1&archive=0 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I wonder whether they will redo the 1989 one again? Last time they couldn't do much apart from a couple of details. The sad thing is I would probably buy it again. I don't think there was a single thing wrong with the sequel so no need to change anything there. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 Neil already redid Batman 89 in a definitive presentation; It's just that it was only released on vinyl. So yea, I'd buy that new main program as a physical CD edition from LLL (in a package with every single bonus track currently available across 4 different albums to form a 2CD set) in a heartbeat. Yavar Moradi and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 I agree with Jay. Too iconic a score to not buy with any improvements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Well, the new presentation seems especially done to fill four faces of vynils... not much. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted September 26, 2021 Author Share Posted September 26, 2021 I don't know why you say that. It's completely chronological. The fact it's split into four vinyl sides is a necessary aspect of the medium; It clearly didn't affect the ordering of tracks because it's still chronological. And its great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Holy hell, all 40 units completely disappeared in under an hour. Why is it always the Batman CDs where I get so hesitant for a while that they just run out by the time my brain stops doing mental gymnastics? Admittedly, I just quite don't have the attachment to Elfman's music like I do Goldenthal, but I do enjoy them plenty. Maybe it's the lack of nostalgia tied to them. Monsters in Motion still has them listed, but I get the sense that they aren't as quick to update for whenever a product is gone. I'll see what they tell me soon enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 234 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 3 hours ago, HunterTech said: Why is it always the Batman CDs where I get so hesitant for a while that they just run out by the time my brain stops doing mental gymnastics? You're brain was doing mental gymnastics for 7 years? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted September 26, 2021 Share Posted September 26, 2021 Given my condition, one could argue I haven't escaped from mental gymnastics for much of my life so far. I shouldn't be so hard on myself really. General CD collecting has slowed down considerably for me, so to buy one now would require serious consideration. I just don't quite have the attachment to Burton's Batman like I sort of do Schumacher's. As such, the music is still taking its time for me to fully gel with. But in spite of my general stinginess these days, I still like to support labels when I can, so it leaves me a bit miffed if I lost an opportunity to do so. That being said, if MiM ends up not having it in their inventory, I'll be worried if they can't give a full refund, since apparently they only can offer the customer store credit. Hopefully they'll be understanding in this case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,129 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 On 12/12/2014 at 9:19 AM, jwalk713 said: As for this new release-- it should be fairly apparent that I am enthralled by it. After 72 hours of non-stop listening, I have but two matters that are of a less than stellar nature-- 'Main Title,' and 'Showdown I.' Simply, I think there is much more reverb on both of these pieces than any other in the presentation. When compared with the rest of the score, they stick out quite a bit. I'm sure that there is an explanation for this, and it really isn't a complaint, mind you. Just an observation. 'Main Title Alt. 2' seems to have the more favorable, consistent mix. It is SO similar to 'Main Title' in orchestration, tempo and presentation (so much so that I wondered if it was actually the same take just mixed SLIGHTLY differently), that I may just move it to first position on the playlist. Nevertheless-- this is my definitive 'Batman' release. So, I was dumb enough to sell my 2010 release when I picked up the 4CD Collection... and Wow, am I disappointed in the mix for the Main Title. Main Title Alt. 2 has those aggressive snares at about 0:49 that represent what you hear in the film mix. I had the same thought that I may just move it to the first position on the playlist. I hope they go back to the well one more time for Batman 89. It's like Wrath of Khan... one of those scores that you will buy for even the slightest improvement. Sadly, in this case, I wish I'd kept my 2010 CD. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 Remixed tracks, Remastered sound, a Jedi craves not these things. Always keep your original CDs... just in case... Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,129 Posted September 27, 2021 Share Posted September 27, 2021 I try, Master. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted September 28, 2021 Share Posted September 28, 2021 19 hours ago, Bespin said: Always keep your original CDs... just in case... Except when they'll release The Reivers back, it can't be worst Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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