nightscape94 965 Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 Actually the last 5 years PJ has outdone Spielberg box office wise and that's not a slam against him because he still is one of my favorite directors.I was speaking in terms of my personal opinion about the quality of their films, as compared to each other. As good as the LotR films are, Spielberg does more for me, as in Saving Private Ryan, Minority Report and Munich, just to name a few in the last 7 years.Tim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Coscina 3 Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 I'll still take JAWS over anything Jackson has made in his entire career. Better characters, better dialogue, and great friggin score. And Bruce (the shark) is scarier than anything I've seen in KONG.p.s. someone should tell Jackson that to make viewers believe in his stories, he should make his films a little more realistic- like Ann being tossed around in that 30 minute fight sequence. I counted 10 times where she would have been killed or paralyzed from the impact of her falls. And the bug scene. Like a kid who's never fired a machine gun could pick off those bugs from Adrian Brody without shooting him. Pulease. That's just too far fetched. The original Kong had it right. When Kong fights the Allosaur, Ann is in the tree. Yes the tree falls but it's a lesser impact than all the nonsense that Naomi Watts endures. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted April 8, 2006 Share Posted April 8, 2006 I'll still take JAWS over anything Jackson has made in his entire career. Better characters, better dialogue, and great friggin score. And Bruce (the shark) is scarier than anything I've seen in KONG.p.s. someone should tell Jackson that to make viewers believe in his stories, he should make his films a little more realistic- like Ann being tossed around in that 30 minute fight sequence. I counted 10 times where she would have been killed or paralyzed from the impact of her falls. And the bug scene. Like a kid who's never fired a machine gun could pick off those bugs from Adrian Brody without shooting him. Pulease. That's just too far fetched. The original Kong had it right. When Kong fights the Allosaur, Ann is in the tree. Yes the tree falls but it's a lesser impact than all the nonsense that Naomi Watts endures.That's all well and good, but you won't get anywhere by comparing films to Jaws. ^_^ Most films, or most popcorn films anyway, look a bit pale when compared to Jaws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 Now IGN Filmforce is contradicting recent news, reporting that the latest word is the JP 4 script is not done, and in fact won't be until at least next year. Make of this what you will.http://filmforce.ign.com/articles/702/702301p1.htmlJohn- not even sure why he's posting this Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 19, 2006 Share Posted April 19, 2006 That being said I still feel PJ did an outstanding job with Kong and I enjoyed it alot. WETA did a great job considering all they had to do on that film.Really?WETA spent since 2003 in this movie, and contributed to two or three more.One expects better.ILM handled better with EPIII and made more than ten movies appart from it.Im saying this because i just rewatched some parts of KK today, and well just watch when kong tosses appart the tree where the guys are before falling to the bug chasm for an example of what i mean. ILM does better CGI humans than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodMusician 56 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Not to mention in Kong, there are about 4 times where the sky jumps around, and when the camera pans aroud the tower at the end, you can clearly see that the lights off in the distance lighting it up are not stationary.I still think JP has one of the most Realistic CG work in history.Films that came out after--Jumanji--didn't look so great... but it's getting better.Kong looked too fake to me. Everything looked so ...in focus or painted on. Not to say it wasn't a good movie, just that a lot of the effect shots didn't get me. I'm looking forward to JP4.Steven said in an interview that one of things he'd always wanted to do was have a raptor/human chase with the people on motorcycles, based on a scene from TLW. Well, that scene in the movie, the people are chasing the dinos... so weither it's people chasing dinos, or dinos chasing people, I dunno...But he "promised" that would be in the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 That being said I still feel PJ did an outstanding job with Kong and I enjoyed it alot. WETA did a great job considering all they had to do on that film.Really?WETA spent since 2003 in this movie, and contributed to two or three more.One expects better.ILM handled better with EPIII and made more than ten movies appart from it.Im saying this because i just rewatched some parts of KK today, and well just watch when kong tosses appart the tree where the guys are before falling to the bug chasm for an example of what i mean. ILM does better CGI humans than that.You obviously haven't paid too much attention to AOTC or ROTS.Another thing is that WETA doesn't have the unlimited funds ILM has. Considering WETA is hasn't been around as long as ILM I'd say they are doing a pretty good job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted April 20, 2006 Share Posted April 20, 2006 Jackson had a great ammount of funds for LOTR, and i suppose, that with his success he also had for kong. And WETA has been winning Oscars since 2001, with the exception of last year Spiderman II (with worse effects).And i have paid much attention to ROTS and AOTC, anyway you have to compare AOTC with LOTR CGI time-era wise, not with kong.And please dont tell me the CGI stunts in ROTS look worse than in KONG. Even the basics, as fire and water are done badly by today standards.I have no complain about Kong, the CGI creature, though. And yes WETA is doing a good job, but it is not the best one out there (yet?? who knows), as people is claiming it to be. It the second best company IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Indiana Jones' returns to the desert?http://www.spielbergfilms.com/indy4/391 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 That's all well and good, but you won't get anywhere by comparing films to Jaws. Most films, or most popcorn films anyway, look a bit pale when compared to Jaws.That's because films weren't marketed towards kids yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted May 8, 2006 Share Posted May 8, 2006 Indiana Jones' returns to the desert?http://www.spielbergfilms.com/indy4/391 location... things seem to be going gon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Here are the facts:Spielberg has just come out and said Johnston is his first choice as director of JP4.Don Davis has come out and said his experience on JP3 was regretable, and it is unlikely he would return to the franchise if Johnston were involved.Universal were extremely pleased with the reception of last minute James Newton Howard's King Kong score, which received many accolades.Johnston worked with James Newton Howard on his last film, Hidalgo, to great effect. The two have clearly had a great working relationship.JNH has done two epic dinosaur films scores, both excellent, and continues to prove himself as a quality composer in the industry.Will JP4 make it the trifecta of dino films? What do you think? I think is the perfect talent for a Jurassic Park film. I'd love to hear what he has in mind...Also note, JNH's music from Waterworld was heavily used in the JP3 trailers, my first introduction to JNH's awesome talent as a composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 YESSSSS!!!!!! I cannot think of any other movie JNH would be more perfect for. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marcus 390 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 How sad... I was still hoping Spielberg would direct this, and subsequently give us another Williams score... Williams seemed to be under the impression that this was a possibility as recently as late August 2005... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QMM 4 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Breaking NewsIn related news, the trade also reported that Joe Johnston will return to direct Jurassic Park 4, written by The Departed screenwriter William Monahan. Johnston helmed the third installment of the franchise.Monahan also wrote Kingdom of Heaven. With him on board my excitement is up a few notches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tpigeon 3 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 I'll still take JAWS over anything Jackson has made in his entire career. Better characters, better dialogue, and great friggin score. And Bruce (the shark) is scarier than anything I've seen in KONG.p.s. someone should tell Jackson that to make viewers believe in his stories, he should make his films a little more realistic- like Ann being tossed around in that 30 minute fight sequence. I counted 10 times where she would have been killed or paralyzed from the impact of her falls. And the bug scene. Like a kid who's never fired a machine gun could pick off those bugs from Adrian Brody without shooting him. Pulease. That's just too far fetched. The original Kong had it right. When Kong fights the Allosaur, Ann is in the tree. Yes the tree falls but it's a lesser impact than all the nonsense that Naomi Watts endures.Seriously! Because when I'm watching a movie about a giant ape and an island with dinosaurs on it, I want some realism. I'm not commenting on the quality of either of those films, but the idea that a shark would eat an air tank, chew it all up and have some part of it miraculously hanging out of it to have it shot with a rifle is a pretty unrealistic way for it to die. So if you're judging the realism of it, as if that has anything to do with its quality, then you need to take away some points.Ted, appalled by the idea of people expecting movies like Jaws and King Kong to be "realistic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Oh, they are still going ahead with this film? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robthehand 3 Posted October 5, 2006 Share Posted October 5, 2006 Breaking NewsIn related news, the trade also reported that Joe Johnston will return to direct Jurassic Park 4, written by The Departed screenwriter William Monahan. Johnston helmed the third installment of the franchise.Monahan also wrote Kingdom of Heaven. With him on board my excitement is up a few notches.That bit had me confused for a moment there. No Spielberg probably = no Williams, but in a strange way I'm glad neither of them will have this film on their list of credits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 It's so easy to make a joke out of this, but seriously, who would you choose if you had to cast actors for Jurassic Park 4? Money would be no objection I have thought about which actors would work in an adventure/jungle movie, and which actors would be interesting to see together. I would have some actors necessary to return for the sake of continuity, some are just good enough to return and then I added some interesting actors, in my view. My suggestions:Sam Neill - Dr. Alan Grant Alessandro Nivola - Dr. Billy BrennanJeff Goldblum - Dr. Ian MalcolmLaura Dern - Dr. Ellie SattlerJulianne Moore - Sarah HardingRichard Attenborough - John Hammond Claire Danes - Lex Murphy/student Paul Walker - Tim Murphy/studentCamilla Belle - Cathy Bowman/studentDennis Quaid - BiologistJodie Foster - BiologistStanley Tucci - Lawyer/officialChristopher Walken - Financer/officialMorgan Freeman - Financer/officialPete Postlethwaite - Roland TemboArnold Vosloo - Military/hunterJason Statham - Military/hunterGerard Butler - Military/hunterOded Fehr - Military/hunterLuis Guzmán - Local guide/hunterAdewale Akinnuoye-Agbaje - Local guide/hunterDjimon Hounsou - Local guide/hunter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damo 0 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 The way I see it, Sam Neill, Jeff Goldblum, Laura Dern, Richard Attenborough and Alessandro Nivola are the main characters in the Jurassic Park movies. So I don't really mind who in Jurassic Park IV because chances are we going to see the same casts as well as introducing new cast for new characters... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 Stephen Tobolowsky - Tyrannosaurus Rex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted September 8, 2007 Share Posted September 8, 2007 As long as it has Sam Neil, Jeff Goldblum, and Richard Attenborough I'm good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Anyone from the first film that's still alive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 The film should use as many previous cast members as possible in order to be more stale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Paris Hilton as dinner... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeshopk 8 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I propose an all black male comedy cast of Martin Lawrence, Urkel, Chris Tucker and Eddie Murphy. The only female would be Barbara Bush. I would be very interested to see it if that were the cast. Otherwise, almost nothing could drag me back to Jurassic Park. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Will Eddie Murphy be playing both the stegosaurus and the triceratops, possibly in the same shot? I love those kooky camera tricks of his! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Crichton 4 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Forget human actors: Jurassic Park IV: A Dino's Life. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Paris Hilton as dinner...LOL! :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 No one.This movie should not be made, full stop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Pete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Paris Hilton as dinner...mmm nice idea for Killing the dinosaurs of the island...But i rather shoot them (less painful) than poison them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans around.Pete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs.Not possible, he was eaten. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 So? Malcolm and Hammond died...Marian - a real JP fan (which means: a fan of the book). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans around.Pete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs.Not possible, he was eaten.No, he wasn't.Stephen Tobolowsky - Tyrannosaurus Rex"Am I Rex or am I Rex or am I Rex? Bing!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morlock 11 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans around.Pete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs.Not possible, he was eaten.No, he wasn't. I don't recall how he met his demise....but I don't care. He was probably the most entertaining character in any of the films. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 He didn't. He survived The Lost World but retired from hunting because his partner was killed. He walked off into the night on Isla Sorna and probably just took the next chopper home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry B 50 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 It was such an emotional scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Well, not really, but The Lost World was even more shamelessly about the dinosaurs than the first one was. Who gave a toss about the people involved? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans aroundPete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs.Not possible, he was eaten.What a fan... I'm one of the biggest fan of JP out here. (and there)But since universal is going to cast whoever they want...i didnt have the urge to pick any... it can lead only to dissapointment...GO JPIV! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Well, not really, but The Lost World was even more shamelessly about the dinosaurs than the first one was. Who gave a toss about the people involved?And if you watch it with that in mind, it's a very entertaining film.Pete Postlethwaite was the best human element in it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Correct on both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Elmo Lewis 6 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I always end up bored to death when I watch The Lost World, dinosaurs or not.Now, the San Diego finale is a whole different matter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I always end up bored to death when I watch The Lost World, dinosaurs or not.Now, the San Diego finale is a whole different matter.That's funny, I liked the film (although certainly not better than the original JP) except the San Diego finale...it makes the entire idea of secret dinosaurs on remote islands unbelievable and it was way too cheesy...almost as cheesy as Tom Hanks 'blowing up' a tank with his handgun in SPR, that scene I really hated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Tom Hanks did not blow up the tank with a hand gun, he only thought he did, for a moment.Wel opletten he! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans aroundPete Posteletwaithe as his character from The Lost World. That's all. Him against all the dinosaurs.Not possible, he was eaten.What a fan... :lol:I'm one of the biggest fan of JP out here. (and there)But since universal is going to cast whoever they want...i didnt have the urge to pick any... it can lead only to dissapointment...GO JPIV! Ok, that's good. You sound like a fan :thumbup:Of course you're right but it's just for fun It so often happens that actors are fully or slightly miscast...imagine if you could choose a cast yourself for once, I'd like to :)Anyway, maybe someone who wants to comment on my choices?Tom Hanks did not blow up the tank with a hand gun, he only thought he did, for a moment.Wel opletten he!Exactly, that's where the quotes come in Too cheesy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red 75 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I thought that was a great scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MSM 126 Posted September 9, 2007 Share Posted September 9, 2007 I thought that was a great scene.If it were for a comedy or a persiflage, yes.But let's keep on topic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldsmithfan 6 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 I propose an all black male comedy cast of Martin Lawrence, Urkel, Chris Tucker and Eddie Murphy.Poor Jaleel White! Everybody calls him Urkel!!!!I love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted September 10, 2007 Share Posted September 10, 2007 Hmm. Pity, no real JP fans around.I am a JP fan - I just don't think there should be any more movies, given how not much more than blatant money making JPIII was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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