crocodile 8,017 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 I wouldn't mind a Giacchino Star Wars score. And I'm really looking forward to Desplat's. The galaxy is big enough. Karol Once and leeallen01 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Koray Savas said: Your life must be so full of joy. A vain try to become as lame as Jay? 56 minutes ago, crocodile said: I wouldn't mind a Giacchino Star Wars score. And I'm really looking forward to Desplat's. The galaxy is big enough. It probably is with Disney's relentless spinning - but i would prefer, Desplat aside, some real composers, not just savvy 'film music' specialists, to quote one of Rózsa's cattish innuendos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Sure, Broughton, Shearmur and Davis would have been ace. But you and I know that it will never happen. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 John Corigliano's Star Wars would surely be interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Far too risky choices! Who knows what they will do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 SW is traditional enough that it's safe to assume prolific composers like Gordon, Broughton or Davis would know exactly how to land these babies without sacrificing their own voice or losing themselves in bumpy Williams impersonations. I actually don't mind Gia doing one, it's just not music i will be especially keen on, neither in thematic content nor in compositional depth. Now someone like Austin Wintory would be my dark horse for one, but alas... Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Oh I'm sure Gia could do a perfectly passable SW score. Just like im sure his upcoming Marvel one will be decent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 22 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Plus this franchise has the worst sequel film names. What's wrong with Star Trek 2/3? Very, very few movies are coming out with numbered sequels these days. Subtitles are on-trend (the main exception being many cartoons/kids' movies) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 1 hour ago, Stefancos said: Oh I'm sure Gia could do a perfectly passable SW score. Just like im sure his upcoming Marvel one will be decent. You mean forgettable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Well yeah! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Though you obviously don't forget about a lot of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Stefan and I would be hard pressed to hum any MG music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The only theme I can hum is his Star Trek one, and that's because its faintly annoying Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Heh. It's a tad awkward but I feel like it does somehow convey a Trek vibe. Like the rest of the scores. Although the second one veered away from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Giacchino infused freshness into the Star Trek franchise in 2009. It was badly needed after so many years of relying on Jerry Goldsmith's "The Motion Picture" themes. While I actually enjoy Goldsmith's music from Star Trek Nemesis (2002) It was clearly time for a change. I suppose it also helped when Goldsmith died, though. Not that I have anything against him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 16 hours ago, Bill said: Absolutely. The man's music is far better than "mediocre." Giacchino should get any Star Wars film Williams isn't doing. Would not be worth listening to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 @Joey, why are you continuing to post in this thread if you have no interest in this score? All your posts here are negative towards the composer. What is the point? leeallen01 and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 7 minutes ago, EdwardHall said: Giacchino infused freshness into the Star Trek franchise in 2009. It was badly needed after so many years of relying on Jerry Goldsmith's "The Motion Picture" themes. While I actually enjoy Goldsmith's music from Star Trek Nemesis (2002) It was clearly time for a change. I suppose it also helped when Goldsmith died, though. Not that I have anything against him. To use several lines from Baseball he dropped the ball, he struck out, He had a chance to set himself up with Jerry and Horner and failed miserably. He isn't untalented because up was beautiful but he's a broken clock or blind pig. 13 minutes ago, Jay said: @Joey, why are you continuing to post in this thread if you have no interest in this score? All your posts here are negative towards the composer. What is the point? Is there a rule that says I should be positive for the stuff that many of you thinks is good? And when I am positive I get ridiculed for liking what I like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Jason doesn't like it. Thats why I'm not allowed to post in the video game thread. He wants happy happy discussions. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 I never said anything wasn't allowed. I question the point in bothering to enter a thread that you have no interest in, and furthermore read it, and furthermore continually post that you have no interest in what the thread is about and have negative things to say about the subject. Why does it make you happy to do all that? This is completely different than describing what it is you don't like about something if you're actually heard the product; This score isn't even recorded yet! leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 They do it because they are a bunch of miserable old shits like me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 The grandest master returns! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 8 minutes ago, guest said: They do it because they are a bunch of miserable old shits like me. Hi Mark! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Mark! 24 minutes ago, guest said: They do it because they are a bunch of miserable old shits like me. Indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 But I won't do it on Mark's Facebook out of respect Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 So in essence, you respect Mark but don't respect any JWFan member who is excited for and wants to talk about MG's new Star Trek score. Got it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 You are once again reading things illogically. This is an open forum but Mark's Facebook page is his. If I post on his page it could seem as a direct insult towards him. On an open forum it's directed at no one in particular and should only be taken as a disagreement on the topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Indeed! Mark's mum reads his Facebook stuff. No one's mum reads this place. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted May 9, 2016 Share Posted May 9, 2016 Goodness, Giacchino is always a touchy subject around these parts. JoeinAR and JacksonElmore 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 9, 2016 Author Share Posted May 9, 2016 I have absolutely zero problems with people not liking Giacchino's music; there are certainly lots of popular composers whose music I don't enjoy very much. But I'll never understand the mentality behind popping into a thread about one of his scores over and over again to remind everyone that you're not looking forward to this score and don't like his other music either. What a waste of everyone's time that accomplishes nothing positive! KittBash and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I'm just glad Joey is still posting after all these years! We've essentially lost KM! JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Who? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I've certainly been guilty of it in the past (as most have I'm sure) but a good lesson I've learned is that if you have some kind of weird pop cultural axe to grind, try just not. Ultimately it's not important and nobody cares that you consider some music/film/media/whatever beneath you. It's kind of like the people who keep on harping on how much they hate reality TV. We get it and we don't care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 By that logic everyone should shut up in any case because you can bet nobody cares about what other people love, either. It's about what you contribute why you like or don't like something. It is one of the more regrettable developments of the pc movement that any kind of debate culture is considered a plague-like intrusion of sourpuss-ness instead of just accepting the fact that one opinion is not more worthy or desirable just because it's not a critical one. After all, societies are in constant flux because not all things are well and people rightly demand change and complain. Now, Michael Giacchino scores might not be high on a list of important topics to the world at large, on the other hand, where should such things be discussed than on a film music board? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 As I said, I have no problem with people not liking Giacchino scores, and not problem with people discussing what it is they don't like about Giacchino scores. Of course this is a film score forum, and people should feel welcome to discuss film scores! I just don't see the point of doing it in a thread full of people excited for his next score. If you don't care about this upcoming score, I don't see the point of even opening the thread when there are so many other threads you'd probably enjoy reading a lot more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 8 minutes ago, Jay said: when there are so many other threads you'd probably enjoy reading a lot more. What? The grossest Fast Food thread? Or Whats The Last Score You Listened To, so I can read Pub ripping apart a 90's Goldsmith title again? JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 17 hours ago, EdwardHall said: Goodness, Giacchino is always a touchy subject around these parts. That bridge was burned when he was dubbed the next John Williams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Exactly! You can't make that claim of a composer with such a limited talent! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EdwardHall 30 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 6 minutes ago, JoeinAR said: That bridge was burned when he was dubbed the next John Williams. Very true. I remember there was a time when I thought David Arnold would be the "next John Williams." Forsooth, there will never be another John Williams, just as there will never be another Beethoven. JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 The three scores in a row of Stargate -> Independence Day -> Tomorrow Never Dies made David Arnold amazing in my eyes. Unfortunately he never reached those heights again, I dunno what happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 He didnt compose those in a row though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 Yes, I see on wiki he did Last of the Dogmen and A Life Less Ordinary in between. I've never heard those scores or seen those films! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 Last Of The Dogmen is good! Very Barry-like. The Young Americans is good also, but it needs a decent release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kühni 485 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted May 10, 2016 Author Share Posted May 10, 2016 I always buy both Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I bought the original OST, sold it to buy deluxe. I skipped the Into Darkness OST, but bought the deluxe, didn't open it. I don't have a plan for 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 I like Giacchino's scores well enough, but TBH I didn't find the OSTs wanting, and this was just confirmed by the deluxe STID. I'll stick with the OST unless there is something I love in the film that is left off of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 How in this day does a major blockbuster score get anything less than a full CD release anyway? 45 minutes is so 2000. And before anyone points out the obvious (reuse fees), how come no other major releases seem to be affected by this? Is it just because Varese doesn't have the budget of the big labels? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 45 minutes is more then enough for a Gia score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,692 Posted May 10, 2016 Share Posted May 10, 2016 That's not the point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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