BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 28 minutes ago, KK said: I can't wait for that good ol' 4-chord piano ditty that tells the audience to feel emotion! It's a classier trope than some of John Williams' recurring dittys! gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 Fuck you! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BLUMENKOHL 1,068 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 1 minute ago, Stefancos said: Fuck you! Fuck off! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 17, 2016 Share Posted October 17, 2016 You've been dissin' Johnny over you little boyfriend Gia for years now. I'm fucking tired of this shit! You are finished, bro! Me and you, we are gonna take this outside! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 3 hours ago, Blumenkohl said: It's a classier trope than some of John Williams' recurring dittys! Impossible. The "emotional piano chords" method Giacchino constantly falls back upon is probably the most trite way to score emotion for film. Marcus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted October 18, 2016 Share Posted October 18, 2016 Indeed! He wishes he could manipulate the dreaded emotional chords as freshly as, say, what Hans does at the opening of King Arthur. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Giacchino talks about being inspired by our Johhny and mentions a new theme: Quote Giacchino further reveals that he is most excited for fans to hear the theme for main character Jyn (Felicity Jones), saying, “I love the main character. I love Jyn and what they have done with her.” http://www.hypable.com/rogue-one-star-wars-michael-giacchino-john-williams/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Self-wankery... Great... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 "I love Jyn and what they have done with her." - taken out of context that sounds gross! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 More here^. He had to work on his birthday! http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/rogue-one-composer-reveals-what-hes-excited-fans-hear-940920 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 "had to"? I've worked every weekday birthday I've had since I was a teen. Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 I've never worked on my birthday Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 Quote Giacchino further reveals that he is most excited for fans to hear the theme for main character Jyn (Felicity Jones), saying, “I love the main character. I love Jyn and what they have done with her.” He's even ripping off JW's infatuation with Rey! DarthDementous and pete 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 At least we know who her father is! rpvee 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,716 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 16 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: He's even ripping off JW's infatuation with Rey! John Williams, the International Man of Musical Mystery! Women want him and men want to be him! Especially Giacchino! Bilbo 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Glad that he's happy with his work for the main character because I'm guessing her theme will drive the story much like Rey's did. I don't know any of the characters, but from the trailers I'm expecting the main themes to be for; - Felicity Jones. - The key group that form to go on the mission. - The new Tarkin guy whoever he is. And the secondary themes to be pretty much reused Williams; - Rebel theme - Death Star motif - Vader's theme (hopefully his A New Hope theme and not the Imperial March) And who knows about the Main Theme/Luke's. I'm sure he'll be forced to use it either way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 You can hope, but if anyone is actually expecting to see Darth Vader on screen in this and not hear the Imperial March you're fooling yourself. I hope that I'll be able to quote this post after release and admit I was wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,293 Posted October 25, 2016 Author Share Posted October 25, 2016 There's definitely going to be Imperial March, probably multiple times, but I am curious if he will nod to the original one as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yeah, with giacchino on board it's pretty possible the neglected imperial motif could make an appearance. Maybe for the stormtroopers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Is this the Imperial motif? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yep. An excellent little motif, may I say. DarthDementous and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 There's also the second theme at 6:18, and unlike the first Imperial theme, it also appears in Return of the Jedi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 1 minute ago, Gistech said: There's also the second theme at 6:18, and unlike the first Imperial theme, it also appears in Return of the Jedi. That's the Death Star motif, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Blood Boal keeps just beating Jay. Thank you both though. Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Indeed it is, though John Williams chose to use it in "TIE Fighter Attack" too (where there were no shots of the Death Star) and it also appears in "The Last Battle" concert suite (and thus in the "Space Battle" piece in ROTJ, as that quotes both "TIE Fighter Attack" and "The Last Battle"). I'd expect to be hearing that theme in the score for sure. I look forward to see how this score comes out, actually. Giacchino ought to lay off some of the synths and big toms for this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 25, 2016 Share Posted October 25, 2016 Excuse me while I go listen to every recording "Here They Come" I have on a loop. Which turns out is only two. There needs to be about 100x more recording of this amazing concert arrangement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,796 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 1 hour ago, Gistech said: Indeed it is, though John Williams chose to use it in "TIE Fighter Attack" too (where there were no shots of the Death Star) and it also appears in "The Last Battle" concert suite (and thus in the "Space Battle" piece in ROTJ, as that quotes both "TIE Fighter Attack" and "The Last Battle"). I'd expect to be hearing that theme in the score for sure. In ROTJ the Death star motif is finely used by Williams to score the executor's crash on the Death Star Surface. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Fred Steiner actually 'composed' that piece in ROTJ. That was confirmed, right? I think John Morgan confirmed that. The Death Star motif was just a coincidence (more-than-likely) because it was just a re-recording of "Tie Fighter Attack". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Adapted rather than composed though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 9 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: Yeah, with giacchino on board it's pretty possible the neglected imperial motif could make an appearance. Maybe for the stormtroopers. I like that idea. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,210 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 14 hours ago, Gistech said: Indeed it is, though John Williams chose to use it in "TIE Fighter Attack" too (where there were no shots of the Death Star) It ends the Death Star escape part of the movie and leads to the Death Star battle part, so it doesn't exactly seem out of place. Interestingly though, it's removed from the concert version of the cue, while The Little People retains its little statement of the Imperial motif at the end. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 4 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: It ends the Death Star escape part of the movie and leads to the Death Star battle part, so it doesn't exactly seem out of place. Interestingly though, it's removed from the concert version of the cue, while The Little People retains its little statement of the Imperial motif at the end. If we're talking about that four-note motif (which is what I was talking about), it's in "Here They Come", they just changed what came after it: In the film it ends with a timpani roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 I'm very curious how Rogue One will sound stylistically, and in its overall recording. Like what Shore did with The Hobbit; in slowly bringing the BOTFA back towards the sound of the FOTR as it neared its end, so the two trilogies connect. Will Giacchino do the same by matching his sound to that of A New Hope, perhaps as the film goes on, or from beginning to end, or not at all, and just do his own sound. Each time I listen to something from A New Hope, my fear and worry for Giacchino, both personally and professionally, increases. It's just seemingly untouchable for any other composer to effectively inhabit, other than Johnny. My biggest helping of luck, and the will to succeed, and enthusiastic support is being sent to Giacchino telepathically as we speak. COME ON MY SON! DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Shore was connecting two trilogies that he had both scored. I doubt Gia will be able to gently steer his score into the Star Wars (1977) sound in a seamless way...at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Didn't JW write TESB, widely considered to be his best score, in 4 or 5 weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Don Davis wrote each of The Matrix scores in 6 weeks. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Wrote? Or copied from John Adams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Haha. Yeah, like Williams copied from Korngold, Hanson and Holst. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 12 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Didn't JW write TESB, widely considered to be his best score, in 4 or 5 weeks? Sure, but he knew he'd be writing it long before that, so could have kicked around ideas at the piano countless times before he began work on final cues. Giacchino just got the gig. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Oh God! Gia fans are gonna use it as an excuse if the score is a dud! "He only had 3 months to write it!" - Jason LeBlanc/LeeAllen 5 minutes ago, Jay said: Sure, but he knew he'd be writing it long before that, so could have kicked around ideas at the piano countless times before he began work on final cues. Giacchino just got the gig. Just? He got it quite a few weeks ago, actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Some very good scores were written as replacements in virtually no time at all. And some not-so-good ones were written with all the time in the world to spare. So the amount of time doesn't seem particularly relevant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,373 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Indeed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Just now, Jay said: Indeed. Saved for future reference! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,019 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 Elfman, for instance, loves tight schedules cause they give him adrenaline rush. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,136 Posted October 26, 2016 Share Posted October 26, 2016 And JNH did King Kong in 5 weeks. It's enough time if you have great basic musical instincts to fall back on, and immediately know what you want so you can dive in and write quickly. He wrote great stuff very quickly for LOST, and his musical instincts growing up, came from Williams. He has the right tools, just a different brand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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