Popular Post scallenger 483 Posted October 25, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 25, 2020 What about Krull?! Where's the love for Krull?! That one is definitely in my top Horner (and have the LLL release of course). Yavar Moradi, Faleel and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 I love Krull, for sure, but I dunno, Wrath of Khan just hits the same sweet spots for me, but hits them better Faleel and Ollie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 I love THE LAND BEFORE TIME. but the way Horner uses cues by Prokofiev (Peter and the Wolf, October cantata) is hilarious. I have to post some examples. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 WoK has too many skippable atonal/horror/suspense cues for me, I prefer Krull and III. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 omg it's even in the same key haha Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 Skippable moments in the TWOK score? Never! Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 (btw to everyone who doesn't know Prokofief's October Cantata – it's amazing!) Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 1 minute ago, Jay said: Skippable moments in the TWOK score? Never! Surprise on Ceti Alpha V Khan's Pets The Eels of Ceti Alpha V He Tasks Me Inside Regula I. Brainwashed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 I love em all! Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,353 Posted October 25, 2020 Share Posted October 25, 2020 LOL k. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 25, 2020 Author Share Posted October 25, 2020 I respect others' opinions and don't laugh at them! Henry Sítrónu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,200 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 9:30 AM, Jurassic Shark said: Or just screw your neighbors like @Marian Schedenig does with highly dynamic recordings. The neighbours are not the reason why I probably won't buy this one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 5 hours ago, Jay said: Skippable moments in the TWOK score? Never! The Khan music and the Ceti Eel track. Those are shit. I will buy this one only because I never have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 2 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: The neighbours are not the reason why I probably won't buy this one. I don't see what's so great about it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Wow! This is so exciting! Definitely a day one buy for me as well. I really hope there's some surprises in store on it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Seems like i can forget my plan to finalize my 2021 orders including King of Kings. Tadlow seems to have given up on expanding that release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 They were planning a further expanded King of Kings? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 They were planning to release their re-recording AT ALL in September. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12-Mile Reef 123 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 hours ago, lemoncurd said: I love THE LAND BEFORE TIME. but the way Horner uses cues by Prokofiev (Peter and the Wolf, October cantata) is hilarious. I have to post some examples. I also love 'The Land Before Time' and I don't care about the classical influences at all. I actually wonder if in some cases they are intentionally meant to comment on the action, last time I watched the film I remember thinking that there's no way the direct quotes of the trapping the wolf motif from 'Peter and the Wolf' for the trapping of the T-Rex at the end of a children's story is not 100% intentional! 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Of course they are intentional, Horner even said as much. Nowadays, what bothers me about this practice more than anything is that they idiomatically stand out like a sore thumb, not because of the steal per se, but because you can clearly hear that it's not Horner. It works i. e. in Glory because that melody is so transcendent of time and place and much more universal, so it works brilliantly in a movie about the civil war in Murica. But long direct quotes from the Cantata or Peter and the Wolf are so obviously a russian composer early to mid-century, it makes me less enjoy these parts, whereas the cuddly Horner stuff works great, even if it's musically simpler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 13 hours ago, scallenger said: What about Krull?! Where's the love for Krull?! That one is definitely in my top Horner (and have the LLL release of course). Never really enjoyed Krull, I don't know why Perhaps I should watch the film, might provide context for those horrible synth wooshes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 59 minutes ago, publicist said: Of course they are intentional, Horner even said as much. Nowadays, what bothers me about this practice more than anything is that they idiomatically stand out like a sore thumb, not because of the steal per se, but because you can clearly hear that it's not Horner. It works i. e. in Glory because that melody is so transcendent of time and place and much more universal, so it works brilliantly in a movie about the civil war in Murica. But long direct quotes from the Cantata or Peter and the Wolf are so obviously a russian composer early to mid-century, it makes me less enjoy these parts, whereas the cuddly Horner stuff works great, even if it's musically simpler. Good thing I've never heard any of the classical stuff he ripped off from. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 Same! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Being ignorant is never a good thing. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 >shrug< I just don't really like classical music. I'd rather spend my time listening to more film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 But do you like classical music when used in a film, such as The Land Before Time? Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 That's the trick, we don't know it's classical music and prefer to keep it that way. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 On 10/24/2020 at 1:57 PM, Thor said: Great score, but I've ever only owned it in digital file format. Hopefully, this new release means that I can get the ol' OST CD to a cheap price -- if and when I decide to get it physically. That's an unexpected benefit of these expansions, I guess -- that people load off their old releases for people like me. If they've only added one cue, can't you just buy the new one? You'll get better sound too. If you really don't like the added track, just remove it from your playlist. That's something everyone has to do when we're not interested in alternates/demos, etc. It's annoying that a composer chooses to put almost the entire score on a release, especally if it's arranged for listening as Horner does. If they're sufficiently happy with their work to release all but 15 minutes (and especialy if it's one continuous 15 minutes), just put the 15 minutes on and please their fans Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just scratch the CD where the new track is. Unlucky Bastard and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, PuhgreÞiviÞm said: That's the trick, we don't know it's classical music and prefer to keep it that way. You don't need more than very basic comprehension skills to spot 80% the parts that are ripped verbatim: they just don't sound like they belong. The best-disguised rip in Land Before Time is the opening to the Wooden Prince by Bartok. That could actually be Horner. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted October 26, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted October 26, 2020 4 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: If they've only added one cue, can't you just buy the new one? You'll get better sound too. Iif you really don't like the one added track, just remove it from your playlist. The one cue will completely ruin the brilliant tone poem structure of the original album. Or something. Yavar Moradi, Edmilson, Bayesian and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 It's not as if Thor is someone who insists a CD must be played in a CD player, and that bonus tracks are an unnacceptable interruption... he'a got a digital copy. But I suspect there may be a 'I don't buy expansions' motivation here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Thor doesn't *really* give a shit about the additional 10 minutes. As a true ideologist, it's more about the perception and repetition of his beliefs to the point where he actually convinces himself, if not others, that it's kinda evil to own this stuff. Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 @Richard PennaWhat on earth makes you think this new Intrada will have "better sound" than the OST, which is one of my reference quality CDs? Especially given Intrada's patchy track record of making certain expansions brighter and louder. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Most expansions get some sort of sound upgrade? I don't know this score at all - I'm just assuming it will. No need to be so confrontational. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 McDonald Trump Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Just now, Richard Penna said: Most expansions get some sort of sound upgrade? I don't know this score at all - I'm just assuming it will. Many receive a downgrade. TLBT is one of the most sonically dynamic film score soundtracks I've ever heard, I can only imagine a "remaster" going backwards. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 A high dynamic range doesn't imply good sound. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 In the case of TLBT, it already sounds perfect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Fair enough, that's your personal assessment, but it doesn't factor in to a general suggestion that the sound might be improved, as it often is. On 10/24/2020 at 1:57 PM, Thor said: Great score, but I've ever only owned it in digital file format. Hopefully, this new release means that I can get the ol' OST CD to a cheap price -- if and when I decide to get it physically. That's an unexpected benefit of these expansions, I guess -- that people load off their old releases for people like me. If one of the labels re-released some long OOP album wth the original program, and added a handful of tracks at the end for completists, would you buy that? Has Intrada's 'score/extras' model appealed to you as a concept at all? I picture you being someone who can't stand extra tracks even existing on a CD you buy (no matter how segregated they are), whereas really it's a way for the label to make both camps happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 The problem with Horner's *perfect* reference sound is that it assumes audio equipment and listening conditions that 98% of listeners do not have or want. Yavar Moradi and Ricard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 1 minute ago, publicist said: The problem with Horner's *perfect* reference sound is that it assumes audio equipment and listening conditions that 98% of listeners do not have or want. Mine does! 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 11 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: I picture you being someone who can't stand extra tracks even existing on a CD you buy (no matter how segregated they are), whereas really it's a way for the label to make both camps happy. You're right. Although it's certainly a good thing that labels also often include the OST program in their expanded releases. Much better than if they didn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Doesn't your CD player have the ability to program out tracks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 I'm sure most of them don't have the ability to recreate the microediting and random joining of cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Oh, I'm not even talking about the inclusion of the OST on a second CD. Rather the original OST being the main presentation, with a few extra tracks to make it complete. Just seems the ideal way to please everyone, hence why this release strikes me as a good compromise way for you. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 Ihope the set is chronological. I want the song as the end credits Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,508 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 6 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Just seems the ideal way to please everyone, hence why this release strikes me as a good compromise way for you. It absolutely is. I'm just extremely peculiar that way. I prefer the "clean" releases without any extra tracks. To quote Ash in ALIEN: "I admire its purity". By the way, I'm here if anyone in this forum wants to load off their old CD of THE LAND BEFORE TIME for a cheap price, if and when they get this new one. Just sayin'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted October 26, 2020 Author Share Posted October 26, 2020 47 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: No need to be so confrontational. I agree with Richard Penna Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattyO 62 Posted October 26, 2020 Share Posted October 26, 2020 38 minutes ago, Thor said: It absolutely is. I'm just extremely peculiar that way. I prefer the "clean" releases without any extra tracks. To quote Ash in ALIEN: "I admire its purity". By the way, I'm here if anyone in this forum wants to load off their old CD of THE LAND BEFORE TIME for a cheap price, if and when they get this new one. Just sayin'. You can have mine. I’ll be buying this sucker immediately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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