Popular Post The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 https://varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/mouse-hunt-deluxe-edition-cd Expected to ship the week of July 7, 2023. Mouse Hunt (1997) was a slapstick black comedy about two hapless brothers (Nathan Lane and Lee Evans) who inherit a mansion—but cannot exterminate the wily mouse who lives there. Written by Adam Rifkin and directed by Gore Verbinski (Pirates of the Caribbean, Rango), Mouse Hunt was the first comedy released by DreamWorks, and a charming commercial success. Features: Varèse Sarabande released the Mouse Hunt soundtrack at the time of the film in a 30-minute program. This long-awaited Deluxe Edition premieres an expanded program of 44 tracks totaling 66 minutes. Tracklist: 1 Funeral Prologue 2 Main Title 3 Also, A House 4 Chez Ernie 5 Lobster Biblioteque 6 Walking Crouton / Love The Almonds 7 Dying Wish 8 Out On The Street 9 Together Again 10 I’ll Be Home For Christmas 11 Home Sweet Dump 12 Meet The Mouse 13 Charles Lyle LaRue 14 Falko / Ten Million Dollars 15 All Thru The House / Setting The Trap / Clang! 16 Mouse 17 Cheese Wheel 18 Nail Gun 19 Hot Tubbogan 20 Mousetrap Minefield 21 Cherry Catapult / Cherry Spin 22 Shit Explosion 23 City Pound / Catzilla 24 Catzilla Emerges / Ebony And Ivory 25 Ernie Finds Contract 26 Cat Trap / Roach Mobile 27 You’re The Intruder 28 Loose Thread 29 Cesar Searches / Evidence Found Calcium Deficiency 30 Silent Movie 31 Lars Au Natural / Caesar’s Big Drag 32 Face Walk / Caesar’s Truck 33 Sandwich To Go / Ernie Settles In / Ouch! 34 Shotgun Chase 35 Floor Collapse / Hate That Mouse 36 Brotherly Betrayal / I Hate You 37 Insufficient Postage 38 Return To Sender / Mouse On Podium 39 There He Is! 40 Flaming Doo 41 Water Pressure 42 LaRue Ruins / Sad Drive / Factory Brothers 43 String Cheese 44 End Credits Pieter Boelen, LSH, Jay and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 Instant buy! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,430 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 I don't think I ever heard this score. Is it any good? Better than his Stuart Little scores? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,451 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 The Main Theme is really fun. I remember watching the movie a couple time and the score was quite effective though I don't know if it stand very well on its own Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted June 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 25, 2023 The main theme is so much fun!!! One of my personal favorites from Silvestri. Could listen to it on a loop for hours Pieter Boelen, Yavar Moradi, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,289 Posted June 25, 2023 Share Posted June 25, 2023 14 hours ago, Signals said: 22 Shit Explosion Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Muad'Dib 1,844 Posted June 26, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 26, 2023 23 hours ago, Edmilson said: I don't think I ever heard this score. Is it any good? Better than his Stuart Little scores? One of my favorite Silvestri themes and scores, it's a must! Yavar Moradi, Davis, Edmilson and 2 others 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post iamleyeti 114 Posted June 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted June 28, 2023 Probably my favorite comedy score by Silvestri. The main theme is an earworm, careful… Davis, Pieter Boelen, Jurassic Shark and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilasGupta 9 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 I wonder who arranged "I'll be home for Christmas" ... if I remember correctly it was Bruce Fowler. That's a nice one! The rest I don't really miss from the 30 minute release... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FunnyML 90 Posted June 29, 2023 Share Posted June 29, 2023 Is this a new thing with Varése, not releasing track lengths on their website? They did this on Badelt's Time Machine as well, but previous releases contain them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Has anyone received the new expansion yet? No word from Jwfan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted July 25, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted July 25, 2023 People on FSM are saying the channels are reversed on the initial press run https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=151518&forumID=1&archive=0 Bespin, Chewy and Jurassic Shark 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 There has been a relaxation at Varese, it's regrettable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,984 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 Huh. That's one of the least problematic fuckups to make but still a bit wtf. No wonder they didn't put up samples Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,845 Posted July 25, 2023 Share Posted July 25, 2023 They didn’t put up samples for City Hall either, and that master didn’t have issues (no surprise there, since Mike Mattesino and Neil Bulk produced it). I think they just didn’t put up samples because they couldn’t be bothered, lol. Yavar Trope 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 On 25/7/2023 at 2:02 PM, Bespin said: Has anyone received the new expansion yet? No word from Jwfan? I did today, have already listened to it, fun score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 2 minutes ago, JTW said: I did today, have already listened to it, fun score. Do you have the reversed channel version, or a corrected one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 17 minutes ago, Bespin said: Do you have the reversed channel version, or a corrected one? The CD version. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 32 minutes ago, JTW said: I did today, have already listened to it, fun score. Did you turn your back to the loudspeakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 21 minutes ago, JTW said: The CD version. It seems that there is a default on the original pressed CD where the channels are reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,106 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 I can’t tell the difference but then again I never noticed the same issue on the original Varese release of The Cowboys after all those years. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted July 31, 2023 Share Posted July 31, 2023 55 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Did you turn your back to the loudspeakers? Naturally, I always listen to scores that way. 47 minutes ago, Bespin said: It seems that there is a default on the original pressed CD where the channels are reversed. I know, I was only pulling your leg. Tbh I had already listened to the score when I read about the issue on the forum, so I forgot to check if the channels were reversed or not. To my old and ordinary ears it seemed fine, but that doesn't mean it was right, and frankly I wasn't paying attention to what side the trumpets or the cellos are on, could be reversed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jim Ware 534 Posted August 2, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 2, 2023 Listening to this now. The channels are definitely reversed - violins on the right, basses on the left, bassoon centre-left. Top notch QC from Varese here. The original album was correct. Bespin, Davis and Yavar Moradi 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 hour ago, Jim Ware said: Top notch QC from Varese here. At least they didn't cut a few minutes from the end of the album, like Disney/Hunchback... Yavar Moradi and Davis 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Jim Ware said: Listening to this now. The channels are definitely reversed - violins on the right, basses on the left, bassoon centre-left. Top notch QC from Varese here. The original album was correct. But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity, or is it necessary for them to redo the entire mix because the problem lies within the new mix? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 534 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 8 minutes ago, Bespin said: But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity, or is it necessary for them to redo the entire mix because the problem lies within the new mix? Swap left and right. Job done. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 hours ago, Bespin said: But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity And how can I do that with the CD without having to stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, JTW said: And how can I do that with the CD without having to stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers? If Varèse recognizes the problem, they'll issue replacement discs. Davis 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: If Varèse recognizes the problem, they'll issue replacement discs. Wow, two releases in a batch, both of them faulty. That must be a record. I wouldn’t be the person at Varèse Sarabande right now who approved the releases and didn’t consult with the manufacturer once they received the finished product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 9 minutes ago, JTW said: Wow, two releases in a batch, both of them faulty. That must be a record. I wouldn’t be the person at Varèse Sarabande right now who approved the releases and didn’t consult with the manufacturer once they received the finished product. If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's. As for Mouse Hunt, we don't know yet if Varèse recognizes the problem and if it's their mix that is like that, or if it's a problem introduced by the manufacturer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 21 minutes ago, JTW said: And how can I do that with the CD without having to stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers? Switch the left and right signal cable from the CD player to the amplifier, or ditto for the loudspeaker cables. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 45 minutes ago, Bespin said: If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's. As for Mouse Hunt, we don't know yet if Varèse recognizes the problem and if it's their mix that is like that, or if it's a problem introduced by the manufacturer. Nonetheless there’s an issue with both of their releases of a single batch. 42 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Switch the left and right signal cable from the CD player to the amplifier, or ditto for the loudspeaker cables. Of course I’m not doing that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 1 minute ago, JTW said: Of course I’m not doing that. Put the CD upside-down then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted August 2, 2023 Share Posted August 2, 2023 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Put the CD upside-down then. Thanks for another useful suggestion, but I think I’ll wait for the replacement Disc. Until then I’ll pretend like I don’t know about the channels being reversed. 1 hour ago, Bespin said: If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's. Even then the people at Varèse should have checked the CD (at least a couple of them) before shipping them. In this regard it’s their fault, too. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,642 Posted August 13, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted August 13, 2023 It appears that an official from Varèse has stated that the mixing on the new set was intentional (source: the FSM forum). Therefore, they do not acknowledge any defects in it. The matter is now considered closed. In my situation, it's likely an issue I would never have discovered on my own! Trope, Holko, Davis and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis 2,756 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 7 minutes ago, Bespin said: it's likely an issue I would never have discovered on my own! Me, neither. So from now on I’ll consider it not having any issue. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 534 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,359 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 So it's a bit like Star Wars DVDs in 2004 all over again? Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,984 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 12 minutes ago, Jim Ware said: Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it. Maybe they just wanted to give us a new spin on the material, so that even the OST tracks wouldn't be the same as we already knew them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Ware 534 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 hours ago, crocodile said: So it's a bit like Star Wars DVDs in 2004 all over again? 'Deliberate creative decisions'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,563 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 24 minutes ago, Jim Ware said: Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it. Agreed. What a load of cobblers. I sincerely doubt that Alan Silvestri would have gone for an unusual orchestral setup. This isn't a quirky Bernard Herrmann score, it's a standard symphony orchestra which would almost certainly have been setup in the usual way (left to right: violins to double basses, then behind horns, woodwind, brass) and I would be astonished if Alan Silvestri randomly decided to switch the layout to the opposite of the usual setup for this one score. Love his music to bits, but that kind of experimenting just isn't really his thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 4 minutes ago, Jim Ware said: 'Intentional creative decisions'. "Deliberate", I thought. Jim Ware 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 In recent years I've learned to always wait for the second batch before ordering from Varese. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,984 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: In recent years I've learned to always wait for the second batch before ordering from Varese. They won't fix it, though. 8 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said: Agreed. What a load of cobblers. I sincerely doubt that Alan Silvestri would have gone for an unusual orchestral setup. This isn't a quirky Bernard Herrmann score, it's a standard symphony orchestra which would almost certainly have been setup in the usual way (left to right: violins to double basses, then behind horns, woodwind, brass) and I would be astonished if Alan Silvestri randomly decided to switch the layout to the opposite of the usual setup for this one score. Love his music to bits, but that kind of experimenting just isn't really his thing. The OST is the standard setup; the film is the standard setup; there's also this post on fsm: Quote "I can assure you the channels were not reversed in my original stereo fold down of the film mixes. I don’t remember ever doing a true stereo soundtrack mix but if I had the channels would not have been reversed." - Dennis Sands [the score's recording engineer] So it's just Varese deliberately deciding to flip them for no reason at all; or them not admitting to a fuckup. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed? So the violins on the right instead of left? I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,642 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 The mouse is at the left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 10 minutes ago, Holko said: They won't fix it, though. Wasn't there a release with an error they corrected on the second batch without acknowledging it? 5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed? So the violins on the right instead of left? I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that? It doesn't bother me either. Just consider it an ingenious orchestra layout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed? So the violins on the right instead of left? I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that? Things would also be in the middle that weren't, Things that wouldn't, would be. Dogs and Cats would be living together, and mass hysteria. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,745 Posted August 13, 2023 Share Posted August 13, 2023 8 minutes ago, Signals said: Things would also be in the middle that weren't, Things that wouldn't, would be. If the only mixing error is flipped channels, things that used to be in the middle would remain in the middle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Great Gonzales 5,977 Posted August 13, 2023 Author Share Posted August 13, 2023 On 02/08/2023 at 8:17 AM, Jim Ware said: bassoon centre-left. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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