Alan Silvestri - Mouse Hunt (2023 Varese Deluxe Edition)

[Faleel 5,360]

https://varesesarabande.com/collections/cd-club/products/mouse-hunt-deluxe-edition-cd

 

Expected to ship the week of July 7, 2023.

 

Mouse Hunt (1997) was a slapstick black comedy about two hapless brothers (Nathan Lane and Lee Evans) who inherit a mansion—but cannot exterminate the wily mouse who lives there. Written by Adam Rifkin and directed by Gore Verbinski (Pirates of the Caribbean, Rango), Mouse Hunt was the first comedy released by DreamWorks, and a charming commercial success.

 

Features:

 

Varèse Sarabande released the Mouse Hunt soundtrack at the time of the film in a 30-minute program. This long-awaited Deluxe Edition premieres an expanded program of 44 tracks totaling 66 minutes.

 

Tracklist:

 

1 Funeral Prologue
2 Main Title
3 Also, A House
4 Chez Ernie
5 Lobster Biblioteque
6 Walking Crouton / Love The Almonds
7 Dying Wish
8 Out On The Street
9 Together Again
10 I’ll Be Home For Christmas
11 Home Sweet Dump
12 Meet The Mouse
13 Charles Lyle LaRue
14 Falko / Ten Million Dollars
15 All Thru The House / Setting The Trap / Clang!
16 Mouse
17 Cheese Wheel
18 Nail Gun
19 Hot Tubbogan
20 Mousetrap Minefield
21 Cherry Catapult / Cherry Spin
22 Shit Explosion
23 City Pound / Catzilla
24 Catzilla Emerges / Ebony And Ivory
25 Ernie Finds Contract
26 Cat Trap / Roach Mobile
27 You’re The Intruder
28 Loose Thread
29 Cesar Searches / Evidence Found Calcium Deficiency
30 Silent Movie
31 Lars Au Natural / Caesar’s Big Drag
32 Face Walk / Caesar’s Truck
33 Sandwich To Go / Ernie Settles In / Ouch!
34 Shotgun Chase
35 Floor Collapse / Hate That Mouse
36 Brotherly Betrayal / I Hate You
37 Insufficient Postage
38 Return To Sender / Mouse On Podium
39 There He Is!
40 Flaming Doo
41 Water Pressure
42 LaRue Ruins / Sad Drive / Factory Brothers
43 String Cheese
44 End Credits

[Bespin 8,484]

Instant buy!

[Edmilson 7,473]

I don't think I ever heard this score. Is it any good? Better than his Stuart Little scores?

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

The Main Theme is really fun. I remember watching the movie a couple time and the score was quite effective though I don't know if it stand very well on its own

[JNHFan2000 2,969]

The main theme is so much fun!!!

One of my personal favorites from Silvestri. Could listen to it on a loop for hours

[BrotherSound 2,246]

14 hours ago, Signals said:

22 Shit Explosion

 

[Muad'Dib 1,802]

23 hours ago, Edmilson said:

I don't think I ever heard this score. Is it any good? Better than his Stuart Little scores?

 

 

One of my favorite Silvestri themes and scores, it's a must!

[iamleyeti 114]

Probably my favorite comedy score by Silvestri. The main theme is an earworm, careful…

[SilasGupta 9]

I wonder who arranged "I'll be home for Christmas" ... if I remember correctly it was Bruce Fowler. That's a nice one! The rest I don't really miss from the 30 minute release...

[FunnyML 82]

Is this a new thing with Varése, not releasing track lengths on their website? They did this on Badelt's Time Machine as well, but previous releases contain them.

[Bespin 8,484]

Has anyone received the new expansion yet? No word from Jwfan?

[Jay 37,374]

People on FSM are saying the channels are reversed on the initial press run

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=151518&forumID=1&archive=0

[Bespin 8,484]

There has been a relaxation at Varese, it's regrettable!

[Holko 9,532]

Huh. That's one of the least problematic fuckups to make but still a bit wtf. No wonder they didn't put up samples

[Yavar Moradi 2,603]

They didn’t put up samples for City Hall either, and that master didn’t have issues (no surprise there, since Mike Mattesino and Neil Bulk produced it).

 

I think they just didn’t put up samples because they couldn’t be bothered, lol.

 

Yavar

[JTN 2,047]

On 25/7/2023 at 2:02 PM, Bespin said:

Has anyone received the new expansion yet? No word from Jwfan?

I did today, have already listened to it, fun score.

[Bespin 8,484]

2 minutes ago, JTW said:

I did today, have already listened to it, fun score.

 

Do you have the reversed channel version, or a corrected one?

[JTN 2,047]

17 minutes ago, Bespin said:

 

Do you have the reversed channel version, or a corrected one?

The CD version. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

32 minutes ago, JTW said:

I did today, have already listened to it, fun score.

 

Did you turn your back to the loudspeakers?

[Bespin 8,484]

21 minutes ago, JTW said:

The CD version. 

 

It seems that there is a default on the original pressed CD where the channels are reversed.

[Ollie 1,059]

I can’t tell the difference but then again  I never noticed the same issue on the original Varese release of The Cowboys after all those years.

[JTN 2,047]

55 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Did you turn your back to the loudspeakers?

Naturally, I always listen to scores that way.

47 minutes ago, Bespin said:

 

It seems that there is a default on the original pressed CD where the channels are reversed.

I know, I was only pulling your leg.  

Tbh I had already listened to the score when I read about the issue on the forum, so I forgot to check if the channels were reversed or not. To my old and ordinary ears it seemed fine, but that doesn't mean it was right, and frankly I wasn't paying attention to what side the trumpets or the cellos are on, could be reversed. 

[Jim Ware 526]

Listening to this now. The channels are definitely reversed - violins on the right, basses on the left, bassoon centre-left. Top notch QC from Varese here.

 

The original album was correct.

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

1 hour ago, Jim Ware said:

Top notch QC from Varese here.

 

At least they didn't cut a few minutes from the end of the album, like Disney/Hunchback...

[Bespin 8,484]

2 hours ago, Jim Ware said:

Listening to this now. The channels are definitely reversed - violins on the right, basses on the left, bassoon centre-left. Top notch QC from Varese here.

 

The original album was correct.

 

But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity, or is it necessary for them to redo the entire mix because the problem lies within the new mix?

[Jim Ware 526]

8 minutes ago, Bespin said:

But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity, or is it necessary for them to redo the entire mix because the problem lies within the new mix?

Swap left and right. Job done.

 

 

[JTN 2,047]

2 hours ago, Bespin said:

But can we simply invert the channels in Audacity

And how can I do that with the CD without having to  stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers?

[Bespin 8,484]

1 minute ago, JTW said:

And how can I do that with the CD without having to  stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers?

 

If Varèse recognizes the problem, they'll issue replacement discs.

[JTN 2,047]

2 minutes ago, Bespin said:

 

If Varèse recognizes the problem, they'll issue replacement discs.

Wow, two releases in a batch, both of them faulty. That must be a record. I wouldn’t be the person at Varèse Sarabande right now who approved the releases and didn’t consult with the manufacturer once they received the finished product. 

[Bespin 8,484]

9 minutes ago, JTW said:

Wow, two releases in a batch, both of them faulty. That must be a record. I wouldn’t be the person at Varèse Sarabande right now who approved the releases and didn’t consult with the manufacturer once they received the finished product. 

 

If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's.

 

As for Mouse Hunt, we don't know yet if Varèse recognizes the problem and if it's their mix that is like that, or if it's a problem introduced by the manufacturer.

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

21 minutes ago, JTW said:

And how can I do that with the CD without having to  stand with my back turned on the loudspeakers or swapping the speakers?

 

Switch the left and right signal cable from the CD player to the amplifier, or ditto for the loudspeaker cables.

[JTN 2,047]

45 minutes ago, Bespin said:

 

If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's.

 

As for Mouse Hunt, we don't know yet if Varèse recognizes the problem and if it's their mix that is like that, or if it's a problem introduced by the manufacturer.

Nonetheless there’s an issue with both of their releases of a single batch. 

42 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Switch the left and right signal cable from the CD player to the amplifier, or ditto for the loudspeaker cables.

Of course I’m not doing that.

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

1 minute ago, JTW said:

Of course I’m not doing that.

 

Put the CD upside-down then.

[JTN 2,047]

16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said:

 

Put the CD upside-down then.

Thanks for another useful suggestion, but I think I’ll wait for the replacement Disc. Until then I’ll pretend like I don’t know about the channels being reversed.

1 hour ago, Bespin said:

If I understand correctly, the problem with the Goldsmith CD is the responsibility of the manufacturer, not Varèse's.

Even then the people at Varèse should have checked the CD (at least a couple of them) before shipping them. In this regard it’s their fault, too. 

[Bespin 8,484]

It appears that an official from Varèse has stated that the mixing on the new set was intentional (source: the FSM forum).

 

Therefore, they do not acknowledge any defects in it. The matter is now considered closed.

 

In my situation, it's likely an issue I would never have discovered on my own!

[JTN 2,047]

7 minutes ago, Bespin said:

it's likely an issue I would never have discovered on my own!

Me, neither. So from now on I’ll consider it not having any issue.

[Jim Ware 526]

Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it.

[crocodile 8,020]

So it's a bit like Star Wars DVDs in 2004 all over again?

 

Karol

[Holko 9,532]

12 minutes ago, Jim Ware said:

Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it.

Maybe they just wanted to give us a new spin on the material, so that even the OST tracks wouldn't be the same as we already knew them!

[Jim Ware 526]

4 hours ago, crocodile said:

So it's a bit like Star Wars DVDs in 2004 all over again?

'Deliberate creative decisions'.

[Tom Guernsey 2,287]

24 minutes ago, Jim Ware said:

Complete nonsense. It’s screwed up and they’re bullshitting their way out of fixing it.

Agreed. What a load of cobblers. I sincerely doubt that Alan Silvestri would have gone for an unusual orchestral setup. This isn't a quirky Bernard Herrmann score, it's a standard symphony orchestra which would almost certainly have been setup in the usual way (left to right: violins to double basses, then behind horns, woodwind, brass) and I would be astonished if Alan Silvestri randomly decided to switch the layout to the opposite of the usual setup for this one score. Love his music to bits, but that kind of experimenting just isn't really his thing.

[Jay 37,374]

4 minutes ago, Jim Ware said:

'Intentional creative decisions'.

 

"Deliberate", I thought. 

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

In recent years I've learned to always wait for the second batch before ordering from Varese. 

[Holko 9,532]

8 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said:

In recent years I've learned to always wait for the second batch before ordering from Varese. 

They won't fix it, though.

 

8 hours ago, Tom Guernsey said:

Agreed. What a load of cobblers. I sincerely doubt that Alan Silvestri would have gone for an unusual orchestral setup. This isn't a quirky Bernard Herrmann score, it's a standard symphony orchestra which would almost certainly have been setup in the usual way (left to right: violins to double basses, then behind horns, woodwind, brass) and I would be astonished if Alan Silvestri randomly decided to switch the layout to the opposite of the usual setup for this one score. Love his music to bits, but that kind of experimenting just isn't really his thing.

The OST is the standard setup; the film is the standard setup; there's also this post on fsm:

Quote

"I can assure you the channels were not reversed in my original stereo fold down of the film mixes. I don’t remember ever doing a true stereo soundtrack mix but if I had the channels would not have been reversed."

- Dennis Sands

[the score's recording engineer]

 

So it's just Varese deliberately deciding to flip them for no reason at all; or them not admitting to a fuckup.

[JNHFan2000 2,969]

I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed?

 

So the violins on the right instead of left?

I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that?

[Bespin 8,484]

The mouse is at the left.

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

10 minutes ago, Holko said:

They won't fix it, though.

 

Wasn't there a release with an error they corrected on the second batch without acknowledging it?

 

5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed?

 

So the violins on the right instead of left?

I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that?

 

It doesn't bother me either. Just consider it an ingenious orchestra layout. 

[Faleel 5,360]

5 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said:

I missed what the issue is, but do I understand correctly that it sounds like the orchestra is reversed?

 

So the violins on the right instead of left?

I'm not someone very busy with mixes etc, so an honest question. What is so bad about that?

Things would also be in the middle that weren't, Things that wouldn't, would be.

 

Dogs and Cats would be living together, and mass hysteria.

[Jurassic Shark 12,091]

8 minutes ago, Signals said:

Things would also be in the middle that weren't, Things that wouldn't, would be.

 

If the only mixing error is flipped channels, things that used to be in the middle would remain in the middle.

[Faleel 5,360]

On 02/08/2023 at 8:17 AM, Jim Ware said:

bassoon centre-left.