fommes 153 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 Mission Impossible is in my top 2 of Elfmans I want to see a complete version of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I like both Batman and Batman Returns almost equally, for entirely different reasons. They are both great scores in their own ways.I hope Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Edward Scissorhands and Mission Impossible can get the deluxe treatment next.I concur regarding both Batman scores. My only question is that there is an iso-score on the Edward Scissorhands DVD and would an expanded/complete Edward Scissorhands sdtk actually sell? For me yup I would buy it because I will not buy any of those pirate thingys. However I hope the upcoming Alien boxset won't interfere with LLL Alien Resurrection CD release. Honestly I would prefer Alien 3. Do people really pay for boots? I don't think it's right to exchange money when the composer doesn't see any of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 16, 2010 Share Posted July 16, 2010 I like both Batman and Batman Returns almost equally, for entirely different reasons. They are both great scores in their own ways.I hope Pee Wee's Big Adventure, Edward Scissorhands and Mission Impossible can get the deluxe treatment next.I concur regarding both Batman scores. My only question is that there is an iso-score on the Edward Scissorhands DVD and would an expanded/complete Edward Scissorhands sdtk actually sell? For me yup I would buy it because I will not buy any of those pirate thingys. However I hope the upcoming Alien boxset won't interfere with LLL Alien Resurrection CD release. Honestly I would prefer Alien 3. Do people really pay for boots? I don't think it's right to exchange money when the composer doesn't see any of it.There's a guy on the 700 line at Comic-Con who does, and for a high price ($40-60), but of course he calls them special or expanded editions.The people who work on the official CDs, and the artists and technicians who pour their souls into creating these works in the first place, IMHO, deserve better than this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shockwave 8 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Folks I have to admit I was tempted to purchase one particular unmentionable back in 2008, a Paramount title sdtk. But when LLL released a complete score to Airplane in 2009 I was happy because I know there is a strong possibility that many more Paramount titles will be released in the near future. Most recent ex: Star Trek II & III. So I am crossing my fingers and I say nay to those once again unmentionables. Sorry to get off topic, looking forward to Batman, and listening to the sample cues. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Josh500 1,615 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 And now if he could only get 2CD Complete sets of Harry Potter 1 - 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olivier 5 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Cooool !This was my fourth movie score LP ever The first ones were E.T. , Gremlins, Ghostbusters ; these two were so short on the actual score, however, that E.T. & Batman really were my first two score-only albums.It will be great to have a complete Batman Returns as well; for some odd reason, like the movie, it's often dismissed as utterly inferior to the first one, when it certainly is not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Returns is a lot broader. The development of the three character themes is wonderful. It also contains some of Elfman's most creative and ridiculous writing, like Batman Vs. the Circus, the Penguin's commando address sequence, Birth of Penguin and the finale. Amazing stuff. Elfman has NOT topped it since. I think it's perhaps his best achievement, but that's me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Meh...it's got some good moments, even great moments, but on the whole, it tends to just annoy me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 I never really cared for Batman Returns' score all that much, like I do with Batman. All though I will certainly revisit the music for Returns, when La-La Land releases it. Honestly I'm looking forward to Batman most than Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 Returns is a lot broader. Elfman has NOT topped it since. I think it's perhaps his best achievement, but that's me.... and me.Birth Of A Penguin is the essential Elfman main title sequence for me.The little reverb gives the pulsating strings an edge that I adore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 17, 2010 Share Posted July 17, 2010 The part that gets me most is track 2, right after the basket goes down the drain and the credits begin, up to the bats flying in over the logo. There's another part I used to rewind all the time and listen to over and over again, when the basket goes under a waterfall in the sewer. I damaged my VHS and eventually got the soundtrack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Birth Of A Penguin is the essential Elfman main title sequence for me.The little reverb gives the pulsating strings an edge that I adore."Birth of a Penguin" is amazing. That was the track I bought the OST for, in fact. I was disappointed when the rest of the score didn't measure up, at least to my ear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,129 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 The best part of Batman Returns is when the Penguin addresses the Penguins and that snare heavy music for the penguins diving in segues into that rousing militant statement of the Batman theme for the appearance of the Bat Skiboat. I could listen to that a zillion times. Man, Batman used to be so cool.I wonder if they'll rename the track titles for Returns. The whole Part 1, Part 2 thing was kinda lame. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Yeah. A major unreleased highlight is during the second attack on Gotham by the circus gang when Batman takes down the big guy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I hope the "Making Christmas" cameo is included in the expanded Returns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 I wonder if they'll rename the track titles for Returns. The whole Part 1, Part 2 thing was kinda lame.I think the track titles that La-La Land uses for their releases are the original track titles that the composer came up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 The part that gets me most is track 2, right after the basket goes down the drain and the credits begin, up to the bats flying in over the logo. There's another part I used to rewind all the time and listen to over and over again, when the basket goes under a waterfall in the sewer. I damaged my VHS and eventually got the soundtrack.That bit is awesome. I'm not a huge fan of the score, but the opening is incredible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 18, 2010 Author Share Posted July 18, 2010 I wonder if they'll rename the track titles for Returns. The whole Part 1, Part 2 thing was kinda lame.Actually, later pressings of the OST came up with unique names for each track. I think the Part 1s took the name from the early pressings, and they invented a new name for the part 2s.I think the track titles that La-La Land uses for their releases are the original track titles that the composer came up with.Well, they do match this list:http://www.filmscore...?threadID=69994I swear I saw a post on FSM with a full cue list with slate numbers, and I swear a bunch were different than this list, but I can't find it now. I wish they had a better search engine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Well, I've just watched Batman, and there isn't much that is not on the OST, right? It's just a few short variations on the Batman theme, the best ones being a short piano version and the even shorter entrance at the museum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 The OST is far from complete, if you look at the track listings of both discs on Page 1 of this thread, you can see they included the original album presentation (remastered). Batman is one of those scores that it could definitely benefit with a complete version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Well, I've just watched Batman, and there isn't much that is not on the OST, right?No, not much. Just the entire score apparently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Well, that's just a different (and worse, apparently) mix of the score. Really, there were even fewer bits than I expected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 18, 2010 Share Posted July 18, 2010 Well then I guess that's an extra 30 bucks in your wallet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,531 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 The other LLR title at Comic-Con? It's Krull.Hasn't "Krull" been done? I bought the vinyl, then the Southern X release, then the 2-c.d. set (funilly enough, on the day I went to see J.W.).I wonder what else there is to release?As for "Batman": BRING IT ON !!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Well then I guess that's an extra 30 bucks in your wallet?For now. I bet I'm not going to resist it when it sells out, but it does give me the luxury to wait for the reviews first, this time. I can't even remember the time when that was a regular habit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 The other LLR title at Comic-Con? It's Krull.Hasn't "Krull" been done? I bought the vinyl, then the Southern X release, then the 2-c.d. set (funilly enough, on the day I went to see J.W.).I wonder what else there is to release?Mark and OneBuckFilms reveal what has changed in the posts that follow.This release is most likely aimed at those who either don't own the SuperTracks or feel bad about listening to it w/o paying James Horner. I will appreciate buying this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 RE: Krull.The cue "Vella" moved, and there are 2 additional tracks at the end. The Colwyn and Lyssa Love Theme was also moved to the end.It looks like a good release, of course, but I already have the SuperTracks release of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 There are two "bonus" tracks on the new Krull, one is an album edit of one of the cues and the other one is the Theme From Krull, which wasn't on any previous album. Plus they moved 2 cues around, the love theme is after the end credits now and the other one is placed in film order I believe.****Edit****** I was eating lunch while posting and it apparently took me 9 minutes while OneBuck was posting the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 19, 2010 Share Posted July 19, 2010 Incidently, I reorganized my mp3s of the score from the SuperTracks release, and placed the Love Theme at the very beginning, like Ilia's Theme for TMP, an Overture I guess.If Vella's in the wrong place on the SuperTracks release, I'll move that cue to match the new release. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 19, 2010 Author Share Posted July 19, 2010 Vella IS in the wrong place on the supertracks release; Its in the correct order on the LLL releaseStarting the score off with the love theme track is a genius idea! Especially if they had been able to license the song (love theme with lyrics) for the end of the release. Too bad they couldn't get that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jacob 0 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Ah, who wants lyrics anyway. :cool: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted July 20, 2010 Share Posted July 20, 2010 Vella IS in the wrong place on the supertracks release; Its in the correct order on the LLL releaseStarting the score off with the love theme track is a genius idea! Especially if they had been able to license the song (love theme with lyrics) for the end of the release. Too bad they couldn't get that.Thanks guys. MP3 track order corrected Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've decided to pass on this as I passed on Back to the Future. Two scores that I am highly familiar with and enjoy, scores to films that are among my very favorites. But they're two scores that I no longer have much desire to listen to outside of the films! What's happening to me? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 21, 2010 Author Share Posted July 21, 2010 I dunno, that's pretty weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 He chose... poorly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I've decided to pass on this as I passed on Back to the Future. Two scores that I am highly familiar with and enjoy, scores to films that are among my very favorites. But they're two scores that I no longer have much desire to listen to outside of the films! What's happening to me?Do you need to be beaten back into reality or somethin'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Charlie Brigden 7 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 I can understand passing on Batman, but BTTF? Jeez, dude. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 21, 2010 Share Posted July 21, 2010 Now there's 30 bucks I'd rather put toward the Blu-rays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 To me Back To The Future is one of those must have scores. It never had a proper release. It did have a boot but with wrong speed and terrible hissing to it, even that wasn't complete. It's nice to hear the full score in crystal clarity. As well as great cues such as "Skateboard Chase", the full "The Clocktower" cues as well as the original "85' Lone Pine Mall" cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 One man's must have is another man's coaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 He's reached an age where the desires to hear a musical score outside the context of the film have suddenly dried out. After a while, the novelty factor disappears. Once this happens, all your great tastes will disappear... forever... once this is done there is no going back... you will feel like an ordinary man... and your musical tastes can be changed like an ordinary man.It'll happen to all of you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 Yeah there was a 3 month period where I bought some Zimmer scores but I quickly grew out of that era. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted July 22, 2010 Share Posted July 22, 2010 My feelings toward JW scores haven't changed. Star Wars is still the best score ever and I listen to it weekly, daily. Whenever I'm laying down at night and E.T. is frequently on one of the HD movie channels, I always take in the film version of E.T. is Dying and melt. Every time. I think I've just outgrown other composers because they're frankly not as good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 My feelings toward JW scores haven't changed. Star Wars is still the best score ever and I listen to it weekly, daily. Whenever I'm laying down at night and E.T. is frequently on one of the HD movie channels, I always take in the film version of E.T. is Dying and melt. Every time. I think I've just outgrown other composers because they're frankly not as good.Speak for yourself, Captain. I plan to have variety. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,129 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 Have you ever had to look again at the top of the screen to remind yourself what thread you're reading again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 23, 2010 Author Share Posted July 23, 2010 On this board? Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ManofDestiny 71 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I wonder should I buy it, or should I wait until it is confirmed that if it will be included in the Elfman box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted July 23, 2010 Share Posted July 23, 2010 I wonder should I buy it, or should I wait until it is confirmed that if it will be included in the Elfman box set.I wouldn't wait if I were you.I doubt the full score will be with the Burton/Elfman box set. Chances are as Jay suggested it maybe just the OST's re-issued in this box set. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BTR1701 59 Posted July 25, 2010 Share Posted July 25, 2010 So is this thing available for order? It's supposedly being released next Tuesday but I've been all over the LaLa Land site and don't even see it listed. You'd think if the release date is only three days away, they'd be promoting it heavily on their site.On the other hand, I could just be missing something blindingly obvious. Wouldn't be the first time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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