Faleel 5,349 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 You mean C&A, it's not chronological. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Chronological enough to need further rearrangement, imo! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 What does the A stand for? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 18 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: What does the A stand for? Arranged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Arranged for maximum listening experience. That's the best way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 Jay, any chance you could post the cue list for POA (not the sheet music or Ascap list) with all the correct slates and titles? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 4, 2019 Share Posted March 4, 2019 On 12/28/2018 at 1:04 PM, Brundlefly said: Bring us Azkaban! 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Jay, any chance you could post the cue list for POA (not the sheet music or Ascap list) with all the correct slates and titles? These two guys are right! bollemanneke and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Wizard's Consort brings right back memories of nights spent at the Bannered Mare... Once and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted March 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 10, 2019 OK, after 5-6 full and 2 rearranged listens, I'm convinced the entirety of Azkaban was designed to push all my delight and/or relax buttons, half of which I didn't know I had. Once, Cerebral Cortex, TSMefford and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 I find myself mostly attracted to the more 'insignificant' cues, like Winter's Spell, the courtyard and the pub music. The latter is just so amazing. Once and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Hear hear! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, bollemanneke said: I find myself mostly attracted to the more 'insignificant' cues, like Winter's Spell, the courtyard and the pub music. The latter is just so amazing. I keep getting drawn back to cues I never knew I would love like Crystal Ball and Summoning the Patronus. Also loving all the Pettigrew material. I love it all really. LOL. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Speaking of Summoning the Patronus, anyone know what that deep instrument is when the choir kicks in for the succesful Patronus? There's something primal and unearthly about it that I just love. Once and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 10 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Speaking of Summoning the Patronus, anyone know what that deep instrument is when the choir kicks in for the succesful Patronus? There's something primal and unearthly about it that I just love. The deep instrument sounds to me like a few instruments combined - probably sustained low brass with churning double basses (and cellos?) below. There very well could be some bassoons woven in there, but they tend to blend so well that they're hard to pick out. And then I'm sure there's at least a little bit of help from the synths. It's a really wonderful texture...yet another incredible moment from this score! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post artguy360 1,843 Posted March 11, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 11, 2019 I am completely in love with the first third of Wizard's Consort. I wish there were even more parts of the score that are that bare, although there are quite a few already. bollemanneke, Once and DolceMecha 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 No idea if people already mentioned this, but is it a weird unnecessary fade-in that I'm hearing at 2:18 in A Walk in the Woods and Bird's Flight in the Azkaban score? Doesn't sound like a performance thing! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 16, 2019 Share Posted April 16, 2019 Yeah I kind of agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted April 17, 2019 Share Posted April 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Chewy said: No idea if people already mentioned this, but is it a weird unnecessary fade-in that I'm hearing at 2:18 in A Walk in the Woods and Bird's Flight in the Azkaban score? Doesn't sound like a performance thing! Yes, that's bugged me for a while as well. Bit distracting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Datameister 2,043 Posted April 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 28, 2019 The POA end credits just continue to get more and more amazing with time. Having the opening insert (and not having to worry about sitting through repeats of numerous cues from the film) makes the listening experience all the better. Pieter Boelen, DolceMecha, Holko and 5 others 8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,145 Posted April 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2019 On 3/1/2019 at 9:00 AM, bollemanneke said: What does the A stand for? It's the missing letter in 'Window to the Past' bollemanneke, Molly Weasley and Pieter Boelen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Anyone else astonished that this is still in stock/in print? TSMefford and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I guess it's too extensive and pricey for most Potter fans - for them a single album of highlights would suffice. On 4/17/2019 at 2:56 AM, crumbs said: Yes, that's bugged me for a while as well. Bit distracting. Mike and his fade-ins... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Maybe JW demanded that he solemnly swear he'd be up to no good before tackling this score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 3 hours ago, bollemanneke said: Anyone else astonished that this is still in stock/in print? I am. I remember posting back in November my opinion that this set would be gone in a matter of weeks. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Just shows what an incredibly small community we are... Even Titanic is still in print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 It’s all the more surprising for the HP box set because it had so much going for it— a globally-beloved property with pent-up demand for expanded scores by the world’s most beloved (film) composer, released at peak holiday shopping season alongside the theatrical release of FB CoG... If our community is indeed dying out, let us pray at least that all remaining JW scores get the expanded treatment they deserve before the clock runs out. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 The kids don't want it on CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 I know we all want it to sell because LLL makes its money back and, well, it's cool when something has sold a shit ton. But when this is sold out, we go back to only the OSTs being available, like JP is now (outside the US). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 29, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2019 The situation reminds me a bit of the Apollo missions and the explanation given as to why we haven't been able to get back the moon since 1972 -- namely, because the expertise was gone. The biggest challenge today in getting back to the moon is apparently in recreating the Saturn V, which was apparently about as hand-built a device as ever a device was built by hand. By that I mean that it isn't that you could follow a recipe to build that rocket, only the people who designed it could build it, and once they left the picture there was no going back. Once we ran out of Saturn Vs -- or more accurately, "ran out" of people who could make Saturn Vs -- there was no going back to the moon whether or not Congress or the public wanted to. We live in an era when all the necessary ingredients are in place to make JW expanded releases as good as they'll likely ever get -- a producer who's best in the business (Matessino) and who has become entrusted to handle the audio legacy of a venerated composer; namely, one who has now turned his eye to administering to his legacy instead of dying and leaving that task to someone else to mess up; a specialty label (LLL) that has taken on the mantle of de facto producer/distributor of that legacy and brings to it all the resources they can muster (not least including amazing art direction and design work); and state-of-the art technology to ensure the technical aspects of this preservation effort are excellently done... Add to that the ongoing development of a film franchise that continues to capture the world's attention, whose composer is now the only pillar present in every chapter since the beginning (a track record that hopefully helps to ensure that the Disney monolith does what it can to give its star composer whatever he wants) and an established film score community that has now been trained to expect and support these new releases. These circumstances will not last forever, and once they change, we may never get close to them again. Every release that's been the product of this confluence is therefore a blessing and I'm just thrilled I'm aware enough of our good fortune to properly appreciate it. May we get out of this era all that we possibly can, while we can. King Mark, Chewy, Once and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 Maybe most people don't care about HP anymore. I can't blame them either, but the days leading up to Black Friday, seeing the announcement appear live and the excitement that followed are days I won't forget very soon. Molly Weasley 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted April 29, 2019 Share Posted April 29, 2019 It's rather a case of having adjusted to the new 'normal' that all of JW's Potter scores are complete. Same with many of his scores now - the days of most of his filmography only being available as a listening experience are gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Didn't they move 500 copies in the first week? That would cover hardcore collector's, people in the know, and Potter fans who happen to be film score fans too... bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I bet they'd sell out if they were the more dark and disturbing Hooper and Desplat scores. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 The Order of the Phoenix score was alright. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 2 hours ago, Arpy said: Didn't they move 500 copies in the first week? Wasn't it more like over a thousand in the first hour? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Probably just a thousand individual CDs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Guess it depends how much we can read into the variance in order numbers across that first few hours of ordering (factoring in that hundreds of orders that day might not have included the Potter box). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 I just had a thought while listening to POA (presentation still growing on me): Are Befriending the Hippogriff (so not the entire track) and Buckbeak's Flight meant to segue into one another? Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 2 hours ago, bollemanneke said: I just had a thought while listening to POA (presentation still growing on me): Are Befriending the Hippogriff (so not the entire track) and Buckbeak's Flight meant to segue into one another? Yep! Also, the drums are a revised opening to the cue; the edit in the film seems to capture Williams' original intention for the segue, completely skipping the quietly pulsing woodwinds. The full original opening to the cue has never been heard; it's a longer version of those pulsing woodwinds. If the original opening had been used, it also would have segued directly from the last note of Befriending the Hippogriff. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Datameister said: The full original opening to the cue has never been heard; it's a longer version of those pulsing woodwinds. If it's not on the new set, is that because it wasn't recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,348 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Datameister said: Yep! Also, the drums are a revised opening to the cue; the edit in the film seems to capture Williams' original intention for the segue, completely skipping the quietly pulsing woodwinds. The full original opening to the cue has never been heard; it's a longer version of those pulsing woodwinds. If the original opening had been used, it also would have segued directly from the last note of Befriending the Hippogriff. Ooh, interesting, thank you for that! I shall revisit my edit right away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: If it's not on the new set, is that because it wasn't recorded? Not necessarily. We haven't been told what was recorded but ultimately omitted on the LLL set (other than the alternate Aunt Marge Points the Finger). bollemanneke and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Datameister 2,043 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: If it's not on the new set, is that because it wasn't recorded? I think it was recorded, because the end credits suite on the OST is slightly different in the way it edits down that passage. But it's hard to say for sure. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Just now, crumbs said: Not necessarily. We haven't been told what was recorded and not included on the new set (other than the alternate of Aunt Marge Points the Finger). And @Jay, who worked as a consultant on the set, is not at liberty to say? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 The full original opening was recorded when the original version of the cue was Later, the drum opening was written and recorded, which was edited over the original opening in the film and on the OST (and the LLL CD) Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Then I guess JW didn't want the long original opening included on the new set. Fair enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 Interesting bit of info. Thanks @Jay. Are you aware of the original opening being heard partially in the film or bonus material somewhere? Would a mockup be possible if the sheet music has leaked? 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Then I guess JW didn't want the long original opening included on the new set. Fair enough. Would it be substantially longer than the revised insert? I'd have to compare with the film but I don't remember there being a huge timing difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted May 8, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Then I guess JW didn't want the long original opening included on the new set. Fair enough. There was no room for it, either. 11 minutes ago, crumbs said: Are you aware of the original opening being heard partially in the film or bonus material somewhere? As Datameister pointed out a few posts up, a little more of it is heard in the film's end credits Quote Would a mockup be possible if the sheet music has leaked? The sheet music has leaked and mockups have been floating around ever since Quote Would it be substantially longer than the revised insert? I'd have to compare with the film but I don't remember there being a huge timing difference. Either version is the same length bollemanneke, Jurassic Shark, crumbs and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted May 8, 2019 Share Posted May 8, 2019 33 minutes ago, Jay said: The sheet music has leaked and mockups have been floating around ever since I'm a bit ignorant on this topic so these might be some silly questions, but could you please clarify exactly what it means when "sheet music" leaks for a score? I'm assuming we're talking scans of JW's handwritten sheet music in this instance, not leaks of the fully orchestrated score as distributed to an orchestra during the recording sessions? How exactly does something like that leak anyway? Recording session leaks I can understand (given they're recorded digitally and probably shared among industry workers) but how would JW's handwritten sketches leak for older scores unless every page were digitally scanned at some point? Is that how his scores are distributed to orchestrators/JKMS to extrapolate nowadays? And being the original sheet music, such a leak wouldn't include revisions made at the podium or inserts written late in the schedule, hence occasionally not knowing exactly what was/wasn't recorded based purely on the contents of a sheet music leak (which could be incomplete anyway)? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted May 8, 2019 Author Share Posted May 8, 2019 It looks like this How does it leak? I dunno, someone gets it and gives it to a friend, who gives it to a friend, who gives it to a friend.... who knows bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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