Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Quote NTRADA Announces: APOLLO 13 Music Composed and Conducted by JAMES HORNER INTRADA ISC 415 Intrada kicks off 2019 with a 2-CD set showcasing James Horner's stunning, Oscar-nominated score to the Universal Pictures film Apollo 13. The film was nominated for nine Academy Awards, winning for Best Sound Mixing and Best Film Editing. The film recounts the harrowing true-life story of the Apollo 13 mission that fails when an oxygen tank explodes, crippling the command module en route to the moon. The astronauts and Mission Control desperately team to prevent the capsule from drifting off into space or burning up during reentry. On film, the Apollo 13 team had composer James Horner along for the flight to envelop the audience in the astronauts' dire circumstances and hope for a safe return to earth. For this tale of quiet nobility and brilliant professionalism, director Ron Howard agreed with Horner not to turn Apollo 13 into an action movie, but convey patriotism and the American spirit instead, giving the score a majestic, sometimes ethereal soul. The main theme is correspondingly elegant, particularly when rendered with virtuosic grace by trumpet soloist Tim Morrison. While the astronauts triumph in what seemed certain disaster, their mission ultimately failed – a juxtaposition Horner musically captures with the haunting vocalise of Scottish singer-songwriter Annie Lennox. At the time of the film's release, MCA released a concept album featuring period vocals, dialog and portions of Horner's score interspersed throughout. Horner had prepared a 59-minute score-only presentation for release, which was the original intent, before it morphed into the concept album. Nonetheless, MCA pressed up a limited number of promotional copies for Oscar consideration, featuring a black-and-white version of the cover. For this new edition, producer Mike Matessino accessed the 192k 24bit high-resolution transfers of Shawn Murphy’s original mixes on 1/2” tape, with all performance edits meticulously recreated. Disc one features the complete score, with the synthesizer tracks in a suite after the main orchestral program, while disc two recreates the original 59-minute program Horner had originally intended. Special thank you goes to Universal Pictures, Universal Music Group and Imagine Entertainment for making this release possible. INTRADA ISC 415 Barcode: 720258541505 Retail Price: $29.99 NOW SHIPPING For track listing and sound samples, please visit the Apollo 13 soundtrack page.http://store.intrada.com/s.nl?it=A&id=11453 Quote James Horner Label: Intrada Special Collection Volume ISC 415 Film Date: 1995 Album Date: 2018 Time: 135:05 Tracks: 35 Price: $29.99 World premiere 2-CD release of James Horner score for Oscar-nominated Ron Howard film! Highly regarded, award-laden film chronicles eventful Apollo 13 mission to the moon, heartbreakingly aborted late during trip due to an explosion aboard command module that jeopardized lives of crew and their ability to return safely back to earth. Universal releases, Imagine Entertainment presents, Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon, Bill Paxton, Ed Harris, Gary Sinise, Kathleen Quinlan give top-notch portrayals, Dean Cundey photographs, Brian Grazer produces, Ron Howard directs. Film is drawn from Astronaut Jim Lovell’s book “Lost Moon”, written with Jeffrey Kluger. Hanks plays Lovell in nine-time Academy Award-nominated film, including nominations for Picture and James Horner score, winning Oscars for sound and film editing. Director Howard describes film not as one of action or distress but of “absolutely brilliant professionalism and quiet nobility”. Though Howard championed two separate albums for release from the soundtrack, incredibly just a “souvenir” release featuring the songs, dialog highlights, sound effects and limited selections from Horner’s score became commercially available through the MCA label. Horner did prepare a disc of 59 minutes of his music for internal Academy Award consideration but it never saw commercial release. Subsequently a special “Gold” edition of the soundtrack was issued but it remained the song and dialog album. Finally, through the combined cooperation of UMG, Universal Studios and Imagine Entertainment, Intrada proudly presents for the first time ever the entire score by Horner, both in the versions heard in the film lasting 76 minutes on CD 1, and in the selections Horner prepared for promotional purposes running 59 minutes which included several alternate versions and different performances of certain cues on CD 2. Album producer Mike Matessino has also assembled the 9 minutes of music Horner scored for electronics, following the orchestral score on CD 1. The number of highlights in this important work are numerous but easily commanding a spotlight is the rich Americana flavor throughout, movingly provided by elegiac trumpet work from acclaimed soloist Tim Morrison. Lengthy musical journey includes moments of stunning power such as 10-minute “All Systems Go - The Launch”, terror (“Master Alarm”, “Manual Burn”), dynamic “Re-Entry And Splashdown”. Special mention is due Horner’s brilliant musical architecture, opening with trumpet and snares, then mirroring variety of dramatic onscreen events with emotionally overwhelming music before finally cadencing all with haunting simplicity of just solo trumpet alone. Poetic and sublime! Graphic design by Kay Marshall features flipper covers showcasing both film’s striking advance key art campaign, subsequent release style with star Hanks. Detailed notes from John Takis plus “tech talk” from producer Matessino bring additional weight to dramatic package. Horner’s gift for writing magnificent, emotionally rich music has never been on better display. Shawn Murphy records at Todd-AO, Steve Bramson & Horner orchestrate, Annie Lennox provides haunting wordless “End Credits” vocal, James Horner composes, conducts. Intrada Special Collection 2-CD release available while quantities and interest remain!CD 1 ORCHESTRAL FILM SCORE 01. Main Title (Film Version) (1:53) 02. Lunar Dreams (2:40) 03. A Son's Worries And Simulator Crash (4:37) 04. Night Visitors (1:08) 05. All Systems Go – The Launch (10:19) 06. Docking (2:26) 07. Master Alarm (Film Version) (3:31) 08. Into The L.E.M. (Film Version) (5:10) 09. The Dark Side Of The Moon (5:18) 10. Carbon Dioxide (5:45) 11. Manual Burn (1:56) 12. A War Story (1:06) 13. Four More Amps (3:22) 14. L.E.M. Jettison (1:37) 15. Re-Entry And Splashdown (Film Version) (9:15) 16. End Credits (Film Version) (6:55)Total Time: 66:56ELECTRONIC CUES 17. Marilyn’s Nightmare (0:58) 18. Canister Explosion (0:24) 19. Reactant Valves (1:09) 20. Out Of Control (1:08) 21. Power Off (0:57) 22. A Square Peg (3:49) 23. Cosmic Connection (0:44)Total Time: 9:08CD 1 Total Time: 76:07 CD 2 COMPOSER’S SOUNDTRACK ASSEMBLY 01. Main Title (2:40) 02. Lunar Dreams (2:41) 03. All Systems Go – The Launch (10:21) 04. Docking (2:26) 05. Master Alarm (3:06) 06. Into the L.E.M. (5:10) 07. The Dark Side Of The Moon (5:17) 08. Carbon Dioxide (5:45) 09. Manual Burn (1:57) 10. Four More Amps (3:20) 11. Re-Entry And Splashdown (9:15) 12. End Credits (6:59)CD 2 Total Time: 58:58 Quote Tech Talk From The Producer… This Intrada Special Collection release presents James Horner’s score in two incarnations. CD 1 offers the music as heard in the film, with the main program consisting of all the orchestral cues, while the wholly electronic cues (most of which are short and atmospheric and were added later in the production) are grouped as a separate collection at the end of the CD. Listeners may, of course, create a playlist incorporating these cues in narrative sequence using the following track order: 1, 2, 17, 3, 4, 5, 6, 18, 7, 19, 8, 20, 21, 9, 22, 10, 11, 12, 13, 23, 14, 15, 16 CD 2 marks the first commercially available presentation of Horner’s originally planned 59-minute album. Created with engineer Shawn Murphy for release on MCA Records, this assembly features some performances and cues that vary slightly from the film versions (notably, “Master Alarm,” which is completely different). The album never materialized commercially, however, as the filmmakers opted for a CD that incorporated dialogue and sound effects highlights as well as pop songs from the period that could be heard in the film itself, alongside a reduced presentation of Horner’s Academy Award-nominated score. This official release was effectively a “souvenir” album, which included such luminous voices and performers as Walter Cronkite, Neil Armstrong, James Brown, Jefferson Airplane, The Who, Jimi Hendrix, Hank Williams and The Mavericks, as well as those of the film’s stars: Tom Hanks, Kevin Bacon, Ed Harris, Gary Sinise and Brett Cullen. This new release was sourced from 192k 24bit high-resolution transfers of ½" stereo masters of Shawn Murphy’s original mixes, with all performance edits meticulously recreated for this newly mastered presentation of one of James Horner’s best known and most engaging scores.. —Mike Matessino Quote Composed and Conducted by James Horner. Recorded on March 24th, 25th, 29th, 30th and May 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th, 5th, 8th, and 12th, 1995 at TODD-AO SCORING, Studio City, California. This soundtrack was produced in cooperation with the American Federation of Musicians of the United States and Canada. CONDUCTOR James Horner CONTRACTOR Sandy DeCrescent VIOLINS Clayton Haslop Eun-Mee Ahn Richard L. Altenbach Arnold Belnick Robert L. Brosseau Lily Ho Chen Bonnie J. Douglas Bruce Dukov David Ewart Ronald Folsom Berj Garabedian Julie Ann Gigante Galina Golovin Zherdev Endre Granat Alan H. Grunfeld Tamara L. Hatwan Chang Patricia Johnson Karen Jones Miran Haig Kojian Eun-Sun Lee Dimitrie Leivici Isabella Lippi Rene M. Mandel Gregory D. Moore Ralph Morrison III Robin Olson Sid Page Claudia Parducci Katia K. Popov Rafael Rishik Rachel Robinson Jay Rosen Anatoly Rosinsky Sheldon Sanov Haim Shtrum Paul C. Shure Sheryl Staples Centanni Polly H. Sweeney Roger D. Wilkie Kenneth Yerke VIOLA Pamela Goldsmith Brian Dembow Miriam Dye Marlow G. Fisher Rick Gerding Steven A. Gordon Keith Greene Scott Haupert Carrie Holzman-Little Roland Kato Janet Lakatos Donald McInnes Victoria E. Miskolczy Dan Lionel Neufeld Maria L. Newman Michael Nowak Robin R. Ross Chineduh Linn Subotnick Mihail Zinovyev CELLI Douglas L. Davis J. Antony Cooke Matthew Cooker Christine Ermacoff Barbara George Rowena Hammill Todd Hemmenway Barbara Jane Hunter Dennis Karmazyn Armen Ksajikian Timothy E. Landauer Dane R. Little David Low Earl Madison David Speltz Sebastian Toettcher John A. Walz BASSES Charles Domanico Arni Egilsson Nico C. Abondolo Timothy C. Barr Drew D. Dembowski Steve Edelman Richard Feves Edward Meares Bruce P. Morgenthaler Susan A. Ranney Paul J. Zibits FLUTES Sheridon W. Stokes Louise M. DiTullio David Shostac James R. Walker OBOES Barbara Northcutt Phillip Ayling Thomas G. Boyd Kathleen T. Robinson CLARINETS Gary G. Gray James M. Kanter Emily Bernstein Gary S. Bovyer Michele Zukovsky BASSOONS Kenneth E. Munday Rose Corrigan Patricia Kindel-Heimerl Michael R. O'Donovan John Steinmetz FRENCH HORN James W. Thatcher Steven B. Becknell David A. Duke Todd L. Miller Brian D. A. O'Connor John A. Reynolds Richard J. Todd TRUMPETS Warren H. Luening, Jr. George Burnette Dillon Timothy G. Morrison TROMBONES Richard Nash William C. Booth Alan L. Kaplan Robert F. Sanders TUBA James M. Self DRUMS/PERCUSSION Robert J. Zimmitti Dale L. Anderson Alan Estes Gregory Goodall Peter Limonick Thomas D. Raney Donald J. Williams Jerry D. Williams HARP Gayle Levant Jo Ann Turovsky KEYBOARDS/SYNTH Randy M. Kerber Ian R. Underwood Ronald Aston Michael Fisher Ralph E. Grierson COPYISTS Robert Bornstein Emmet Estren Kirby Furlong David A. Izzard Robert W. Joles Jeffrey Hoyt Jones Steven Juliani Jon K. Marquart Margaret J. Maryatt Laurie Robinson Victor Sagerquist Kendall Schmidt Roy Wood ORCHESTRATORS Steve Bramson Don Davis http://store.intrada.com/s.nl/it.A/id.11453/.f http://www.screenarchives.com/title_detail.cfm/ID/36730/ https://www.musicbox-records.com/en/cd-soundtracks/6818-apollo-13-expanded.html https://www.moviemusic.com/soundtrack/M11683/apollo-13/ Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 So is it safe to assume that all tracks on CD 2 differ from those on CD 1 in one way or another? Because even some of the ones with the exact same track titles differ in runtime. Well, Mike says "some performances and cues" are different, so I guess some are also the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yes some are different and some are the same. The 5 tracks that specifically say "Film Version" on disc 1 would be different on disc 2, while the other 7 tracks are the same on both discs, AFAIK. Main Titles and Master Alarm are certainly the ones with the most obvious difference. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 475 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Alright, thanks. I guess this qualifies them as "alternates" after the main program in my custom playlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 James Horner, Ron Howard, imagine entertainment....let's hope willow follows soon...but probably damn Disney buying all Lucas film... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demondm810 399 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I think we'll get Willow. Really excited Mike worked on this one! I ordered last night and can't wait to receive. Not much of classic 90's Horner left! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2019 http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/apollo-13-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/ We also included info about the different releases and how the promo was initially distributed to the public via the DVD. The following cues are verbatim on both discs: Lunar Dreams All Systems Go - The Launch Docking The Dark Side Of The Moon Carbon Dioxide Manual Burn Four More Amps Incanus, The Illustrious Jerry, Demondm810 and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 13 minutes ago, NL197 said: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/apollo-13-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/ Oooh I loved reading this about Go For Launch:: Quote A brief note on the improvements made here in the overall sound quality of this Intrada release: The cluster of bells at 6:23 (album track timecode) into the cue shines through loud and clear on both inclusions of the cue on this album. The OST was clipped and drowned out with overpowering bass, similar to the film’s sound mix which was completely buried under the rumbling low end subwoofer channel adding to the power of the rocket. A magical moment finally given its due. Kudos to Mike for working on that section! Not all producers would do that. EDIT: This too, about Four More Amps: Another mention must be made of the improvements to the overall sound quality of this release, as the prior promotional album suffered from a lot of upper-range hiss because this cue was recorded virtually whisper-quiet. EDIT 2: Just finished reading the whole article. WOW, GREAT work, @NL197! Wonderful article, I really enjoyed reading it. NL197 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Kjell wrote the narrative aspects of the article, while I wrote out those moments involving the presentation / quality improvements and observations, along with the various release info. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 41 minutes ago, NL197 said: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/apollo-13-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/ Great article! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2019 That's what all of our "reviews" are. They're not really buy it / don't buy it here's why. They're just as informative as we can make them about prior releases, mixing, how they pertain to the film, etc. More studies than critiques because the thinking is, no one wants to read critical reviews for a singular subject. Chances are if one's on a John Williams site, they like the guy's music even superficially, right? One doesn't expect to come here and read critical reviews ala Filmtracks or MMUK. They come for knowledge, details, stuff to supplement these albums and get to the how's and why's of the compositions on those discs. So basically that but with James Horner. 🙂 Jay, enderdrag64, Pieter Boelen and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 That's a really nice article Also, has to be re-emphasized, the moon cover as posted above, with my current monitor the cutout around the logo couldn't be more blatant if they tried. I'm astonished that found its way onto a commercial product. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hopefully some low-res WIP version was accidentally grabbed for the site, and the final printed booklets look normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 If it were a proof of concept to agree on the layout, you wouldn't bad an eyelid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 And it should be noted, that we go into as much detail as we can about classical influences, quotes and the like. We're not deaf like some out there think of Horner fans as. If we weren't, we wouldn't have put Appalachian Spring's cover in there or talked about Britten in Troy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 This is one of my favorite film scores of all time. I can't wait to own this! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 The 1995 OST was my first James Horner album. And it's still one of my favourites. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 *free black Sharpie with every purchase igger6 and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 My first Horner album would have been The Wrath of Khan, I think. This was one of my first, and the "academy promo" I bought from Screen Archives was one of my first "bootleg" purchases along with the Predator boot they were selling at the time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, NL197 said: http://jameshorner-filmmusic.com/apollo-13-expanded-edition-our-exclusive-review/ We also included info about the different releases and how the promo was initially distributed to the public via the DVD. I love the cue-by cue analysis you've done. Particularly, it answers a question I had when the sessions leaked - I couldn't find the Typhoon Warning cue and as pointed out it's actually heavily edited from the end of Docking. Until that point a little bit of me thought a minor cue was missing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I wonder why Horner wanted an unused version of Master Alarm on his intended album. His albums are generally use the revised film versions, yes? Well, I guess not in Search for Spock or Titanic's case, come to think of it.... there's probably others too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Balto used original versions rather than film versions (Balto Brings The Medicine being the best example), and Mighty Joe Young used original versions of the main title and Burning Ferris Wheel cues rather than the much bigger and frenetic film version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yea I guess I didn't think long enough before posting that. So I guess he generally likes to showcase his original intentions for scenes before the directors asked for changes, on his OST albums. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,348 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 34 minutes ago, Jay said: Hopefully some low-res WIP version was accidentally grabbed for the site, and the final printed booklets look normal. According to Erik Woods the art for Mummy Returns and others also had problems and the online art matched the printed booklets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZackR 95 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I will absolutely own this. The score and film are among my favorites! Jay and Trent B 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=133975&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=348#bottom Quote The sky is falling! The sky is falling! Frankly I'm surprised at how much bandwidth has been consumed by the discussion of the covers. The amount of work by an army of licensors and Intrada folk that it takes to get a release like this out really makes every release a minor miracle. I'm still amazed the licensors find it worth their while to return my calls. Given that, the these graphics were never meant to be publicly provided. They take time to prepare and post and we get no revenue in return. It's done as a courtesy, which I am reconsidering. Someone like Erik Woods, who I thought was one of the good guys, certainly must realize that. But this endless harping is discouraging. Nonetheless, I asked our art director to provide the final version, so here it is. Whether we continue providing these in the future will be a topic of discussion, because it costs us to prepare online versions separate from the actual release. JWMike 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 It costs them to prepare online versions? Wut? A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Ah ha, so they did indeed post unfinished versions. This one looks great! Surely they have the finished cover art to put on their website... clearly someone made a mistake here and put a draft version on. 'endless harping'? A few comments about how something is unusually wrong with the cover art? All respect to Roger, but a mistake was made here and deserves a mention. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Hmm this quote intrigues me: Quote An audio anomaly on a CD that people pay for is an urgent priority to get fixed. No one pays for the graphics and as time permits we can update the art, but sometimes we just forget and/or get consumed with the next priority project. Just sent another Horner score to the plant. Putting them up was a good deed -- that as with many good deeds doesn't go unpunished! Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I have no complaints about them accidentally grabbing the wrong version to put online. That happens. I don't understand his comment that it "costs money" to put graphics on their site? That's... illogical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 'No one pays for the graphics'? Huh? The graphics that go on the CD booklet that's sold to us? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 The only thing Roger needed to say was "Woops! We put the wrong version up. It's fixed now. The printed booklets will be fine too". I don't really get all the other stuff he said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NL197 368 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 That could mean they do it themselves, I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OneBuckFilms 319 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I suspect there may be legal concerns about posting the artwork. It's licensed for the CD release itself, but maybe not for online distribution. Just a wild guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, Jay said: I don't understand his comment that it "costs money" to put graphics on their site? That's... illogical. It makes perfect sense. If the company does not employ someone gifted in Photoshop to do the image editing, then they need to outsource the labor to someone who can. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'm not implying it doesn't cost money to create the cover art. I am questioning what he said, which was that it costs money to host it on the site. Obviously, hosting anything costs money, that's not my point. His sentence implies they would have to pay money to update which version of the cover art is hosted on their site. Which makes no sense. I mean, shoot, he already posted the fixed version for free to the FSM forum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 But don't LLL and Varese post artwork too? It would surprise me greatly if it were something that cost the labels so much that receiving one complaint about an incorrect upload causes them to reconsider. @Jay yeah my comments are directed at Roger's quotes. I agree 100%, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 There is no world in which the specialty labels aren't allowed to host the cover art of their licensed projects on their store page selling these projects. I dunno what he's talking about. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Roger again. Quote We don't charge folks to download the graphics off the website. The high res printer files are sent to the plant to be included in the jewel case. That's our end goal and yes if those have an issue I get very concerned. The posting on intrada.com is just a courtesy, but clearly if we're going to get judged by the quality of the downloads requiring more scrutiny and effort with the resources we have, it might not be worthwhile. Personally, I don't give a flying fuck. They can sell those in cardboard sleeves for all I care. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yea, he's still not making sense. They don't put high rest versions on their website. They only put 600x600 versions there. And they don't need to scrutinize what they put there. They simply need to grab the finished one, the same one they sent to the plant, not some early version by mistake. I dunno. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Why would they even have such unfinished draft versions lying around by this point when it's ready to ship? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 That's a great question. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 That wouldn't surprise me - I have old versions of edits and album covers lying around all over the place. Although obviously I don't do it professionally, in which case I'd expect to be a tad more organised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 42 minutes ago, NL197 said: http://www.filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=133975&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=1&r=348#bottom It's the same edit as the low res files on their site but with crushed blacks. -Erik- Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,012 Posted January 15, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2019 I think it's just about him being tired with endless whinging. And while there might be some valid criticism to be raised here and there, going through message boards must be really depressing read for any label owner. The amount of people that feel the urge to express their dissatisfaction that certain release doesn't cater to their own tastes is staggering. It's just endless parade of "meh", "oh I hate that score", "why waste time on this?", "not going to spend money on that" or "why don't you release.. instead?" My blood is boiling when I read that. Anyway, I'm more interested what this "other" James Horner might be? Any guesses? Karol crumbs, Ollie and Not Mr. Big 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 15, 2019 Author Share Posted January 15, 2019 Probably best to speculate that in the Intrada thread and leave this thread to be all about Apollo 13. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Erik Woods 555 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 minute ago, crocodile said: I think it's just about him being tired with endless whinging. And while there might be some valid criticism to be raised here and there, going through message boards must be really depressing read for any label owner. The amount of people that feel the urge to express their dissatisfaction that certain release doesn't cater to their own tastes is staggering. It's just endless parade of "meh", "oh I hate that score", "why waste time on this?", "not going to spend money on that" or "why don't you release.. instead?" My blood is boiling when I read that. Anyway, I'm more interested what this "other" James Horner might be? Any guesses? Karol I just don't know why I'm not one of the good guys anymore for pointing out a potential issue with the artwork? Again, the high res art features the exact same issues with the low res art. I don't think I was disrespectful... I didn't say "meh", "oh I hate that score", "why waste time on this?", "not going to spend money on that" or "why don't you release.. instead?" Anyway... it doesn't seem to bother Roger so... there you go. -Erik- A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 6 minutes ago, Jay said: Probably best to speculate that in the Intrada thread and leave this thread to be all about Apollo 13. I didn't even notice it wasn't this thread. 6 minutes ago, Erik Woods said: I just don't know why I'm not one of the good guys anymore for pointing out a potential issue with the artwork? Again, the high res art features the exact same issues with the low res art. I don't think I was disrespectful... I didn't say "meh", "oh I hate that score", "why waste time on this?", "not going to spend money on that" or "why don't you release.. instead?" Anyway... it doesn't seem to bother Roger so... there you go. -Erik- I wasn't talking specifically about the cover issue, or yourself Erik. It's the general message board climate these days. I think this is what caused Roger to react in the way he did. We're all only human after all. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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