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    Mattris reacted to DarthDeckardJones in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    This release is awful. At this point I would have preferred the original album releases of the first three so it would at least be a consistent presentation of all five original soundtrack releases using the original album masters. The Concord releases are just a mess. Had they been mixed properly it wouldn't be a big deal. I spent a lot of time fixing pitch on Temple and Crusade back in 2008 and the results worked out pretty well. (Thanks in big part to the information provided on this site.) I didn't bother with Raiders much as I had the DCC release. 
     
    This may sound crazy (ok it is) but chances are Disney hasn't mastered these discs yet. I wonder if there is a way to get the pitch corrected before they are done. If I can do it, a total novice, a professional could do it in a day at most. Our hero Mike Matessino has a relationship with Disney. They are about to releases his comprehensive work for the Sound of Music and that is owned by them. (Maybe it was inked before they bought Fox?) Disney can be reasoned with. I imagine someone here knows him well enough to inquire about this situation and ask if he has the ability to contact whoever is in charge and see if he could step in for a day to correct the pitch before they go to print. (I know it is crazy and I am sure there is a bunch of legal junk that makes that impossible. Matessino also probably has better things to do. One can dream though. LOL)
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    Mattris reacted to ajc384 in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    Bravo Disney, Bravo!
     
    How utterly, predictably depressing!  A lazy, minimal effort reissue but the price!  Oh, my god; the price!
    $150 is totally insane for five single CDs!  Who amongst the "likes the occasional film tune but isn't a score-obsessed fan and couldn't name a soundtrack speciality label if their life depended on it" public are really going to spend that sort of money?
     
    I own both the Concord box and the DoD CD so most definitely won't be throwing any money Disney's way.
     
    Besides: considering the shameful debacles over both the DoD CD and vinyl, I predict this'll be another long-running joke of slipping release dates and delayed printings.
     
    Such a shame...
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    Mattris reacted to GerateWohl in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    The single concord disks are still available for about 10$. So, basically Disney now asks people to pay 110$ for Dial of Destiny. 
    And don't mention the wrapping cardboard box. That's worth about 50cts.
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    Mattris reacted to ciarlese in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    $50 would have been more than enough.
    There are so many reasons why this release is an absolute outrage.
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    Mattris reacted to Bayesian in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    I think we’re all actually looking at this situation the wrong way. Hear me out. 
     
    First, Disney, knowing that they’re responsible for releasing likely the last OST of a great and popular composer’s career, offers the album for sale for approximately 20 minutes on some dark corner of the web instead of allowing preorders on Amazon where it could be gauged what the demand would be. Then they manage to piss off literally everyone interested in the OST—even those who managed to order it—by repeatedly delaying the ship date, encouraging the secondary market extortion of desperate CD completists, and sporadically making additional copies available for sale in a sick game of online retail whack-a-mole that’s been going on for four months now.

    After all this, you’d think there’d be nothing left Disney could do to insult and antagonize the devoted CD collecting crowd, but now they spring this “complete” box set of scores of us at a ridiculous price, tempting collectors who missed out on the DoD CD to basically pay 5x the money to get the one disc they actually want. 
     
    You gotta admire the sociopathic genius behind it all.
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    Mattris reacted to Bellosh in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    You're not wrong but like @enderdrag64 pointed out, this level of incompetence or greed from Disney (you choose, could be both)....could ultimately lead to complete editions being delayed for much longer due to poor sales.
     
    Disney knows what they're doing here. It's almost insulting at this point.
     
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    Mattris reacted to Andy in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    Anyone even considering this should slap themselves and just order the Ecoutez le cinéma - The Legend of John Williams 20CD box set.  Now that seems like an incredible value. 
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    Mattris reacted to LB Makes Stuff in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    If it was only $50, I'd be fine with it. $10 per CD isn't awful, even if half the set is the Concord releases. But $150? Hell no.
    Edit: Good luck gettin it on time to those who are forking over $150!
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    Mattris reacted to BB-8 in Disney Emporium releases Indiana Jones: The Complete CD Collection (Expected ship date is March 27, 2024.) No new expansions - Includes the previous Concord Records programmes plus KotCS and DoD OSTs   
    ASM will be f*cking proud that she's made it to the slipcase of a complete OST edition.
     

     

    JWFan forum member reacting to the "good news" from DME
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    Mattris reacted to Bespin in Ecoutez le cinéma John Williams release - The Legend of John Williams 20CD box set   
    Okay, seriously, the next person who says they already have all the music will be thrown into the Sarlacc Pit.


     
     
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    Mattris reacted to mstrox in Ecoutez le cinéma John Williams release - The Legend of John Williams 20CD box set   
    This is a terrific “Intro to Williams” box at an incredible price/value.  For someone like me who has been keeping up with OSTs and expansions both for something like 30 years, there’s no value in picking this up - but it’s an incredible looking release!
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    Mattris reacted to Nemesis in Ecoutez le cinéma John Williams release - The Legend of John Williams 20CD box set   
    It was also released on this Tower Records CD:




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    Mattris reacted to Damien F in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Isolated Score Track   
    I think TROS is a far worse film than TLJ and I don't even like TLJ too much.
     
    I've been very late to the party but I've been catching up on The Clone Wars and Rebels before I watch Ahsoka. Some incredible storytelling in those shows. I keep thinking to myself where was this level of Star Wars writing in the sequel trilogy.
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    Mattris reacted to igger6 in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Isolated Score Track   
    What a strange twist of this blessedly unexpected Lucasfilm epilogue to JW’s career: the two worst films he scored this decade get the greatest love lavished on their scores on home video. 
     
    What’s really bizarre is that, again and again, Disney has used Williams’ name to hype their Lucasfilm projects at insanely early points—remember that photo of the Star Wars brain trust in, like, 2012?—but they’ve done next to nothing to make real, quantifiable money off lovingly rendered releases of the hours of music he actually wrote for the projects. If you think mentioning an obscure audio option in a tweet will raise demand for a video release that’s two months away, just imagine if you tried selling us the music properly!
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    Mattris reacted to King Mark in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny - Isolated Score Track   
    your fucking kidding me.
     
    *Checks if it's April 1 for some reason *
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    Mattris reacted to Andy in John Williams to conduct at the 2023 Seiji Ozawa Matsumoto Festival in Matsumoto, Japan (Sept. 2, 2023)   
    I want him to live forever too.   Don’t forget he had to sit on a plane for 12 hours to get to Japan too. I imagine that’s tough on the heart. 
     
    But look…
     
    My daughter had tix to see 25 year old Shawn Mendes. He cancelled his entire tour to get his act together. 
     
    Here’s this beautiful gift of a man, almost 92, doing his thing when kids a quarter his age cannot. 
     
    He’s still composing and conducting , doing what he loves, with that razor sharp genius mind. 
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    Mattris reacted to JWisgreatestlivingcomposer in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    As a classical music enthusiast, here is my take: I prefer the entire score performed, recorded, and made available for me to hear on an album (preferably, a CD). I know Gliere's Third Symphony is between 72 and 95 minutes long (depending on tempo), but I'd like to hear the whole thing.
    Same goes for a score: John Williams' most recent (and probably last) symphony is his new Indiana Jones score--so I'd like to hear the entire score.
     
    As to the value of selecting arrangements, suites, and some complete cues for an album: I am not at all opposed to this: I personally have more fun listening to Charles Gerhardt's 45-minute Symphonic Suite from The Empire Strikes Back (a suite he arranged with JW) than to the 2-CD set of every second of music composed for the film, though it's great to have the complete set. (Just as Stokowski's truncated version of Gliere's Third is often more fun to hear than the complete symphony, but we can still listen to recordings of the whole symphony.)
     
    But this is precisely the point: In my view, soundtracks should be released in one, or both, of these specific formats: either a Symphonic Suite of sorts arranged for concert performances OR the complete score. With The Empire Strikes Back, we actually get both.
     
    By contrast, with the new Indiana Jones (at least for now), we got neither: this album is not a symphonic suite comprised entirely of concert arrangements. The last few tracks, for example (not including the last, the ASM violin one) are the cues as found in the film. And this is far from a complete score. Thus, including all major action cues (esp. a heavily hyped chase sequence) really should have been a starting point.
     
    In general, I think Indiana Jones scores get short thrift compared to Star Wars: the original 3 SW has Suites as well as 2-CD sets of ALL the music. IJ, by contrast, has the 2008 Concord set which, as good as they are, are NOT complete scores. And then this new IJ, which is 62 minutes (at most, as track 2 is not heard in the film) of score on a CD that can hold 80, and a violin suite of track 2. It's kind of indecisive: does this purport to be the original score or a symphonic suite? Because as presented, it's kinda neither.
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    Mattris reacted to Datameister in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    I frickin love Water Ballet!
     
    As a general principle, I don't think JW chooses cues for album inclusion based purely on whether they are "highlights" of the score. If you take just the most conspicuous musical moments from a long score to an action film, you'll end up with a very loud and rather monotonous album program. JW likes his albums to flow between pieces with different moods and dynamic levels.
     
    Of course, I've disagreed with lots of his specific choices over the years. But as a general approach, I get it. And I think it works very well for this particular album.
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    Mattris reacted to Bespin in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    I know CDs won't be here eternally, but currently, some of us—music specialists, collectors, enthusiasts, or even fanatics—are helping to finance the digital restoration of historical scores through our CD purchases. Personally, I've started a physical CD collection of various composers, most of whom are still alive, as the majority of their catalog is only available on CDs. However, there's a problem with some composers, particularly those who have recorded scores for Disney movies, as their music isn't always available on CDs, which is unfortunate.
     
    Because of this issue, I'm hesitant to start a CD collection for younger composers because I anticipate that they may not release their music on CDs in the future. It's disheartening to think about starting a collection that I won't be able to complete. On the brighter side, composers like Danny Elfman, Thomas Newman, Alan Silvestri, James Newton Howard, Howard Shore, and, of course, John Williams, have continued to release their music on CDs, which I greatly appreciate. It shows respect for fans like me who value collecting CDs.
     
    I hope that these composers will reconsider their collaboration with Disney, given that their music may not be properly distributed. It would be beneficial for both the composers and their fans if their work could be made available through CDs.
     
    Let's hope for a positive change in the near future that may lead to a more significant role for specialty labels...
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    Mattris reacted to Miguel Andrade in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    If that happens with my order to Portugal I'll be most surely requesting a tax refund. In my book that is called stealing.
     
    As for the album bring widely available... What about the folks who don't stream or buy digital music? Certainly someone in there should know the target demographics... People over 50 and film music fans are still very much tied to phisical media. At least I am.
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    Mattris reacted to bollemanneke in Indiana Jones and the Dial of Destiny (Disney Records Original Soundtrack Album) - NO FILM SPOILERS!   
    I'm not in a rush to listen to new stuff, generally. I did it with TLJ and it did not work at all. I want to see the movie first before listening to a score.
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