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    lairdo got a reaction from Will in Spielberg bowing out of Indy 5, James Mangold possibly taking over - Will John Williams score the movie?   
    Variety and other sources are reporting the Steven Spielberg will not direct Indy 5. James Mangold (Logan, 3:10 to Yuma and other films) is in final talks to take over the franchise.  
     
    https://variety.com/2020/film/news/steven-spielberg-indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1203515698/
     
    So, if this happens, what do we think that John Williams would stay with the project? Or do we think Marco Beltrami or someone else will take over?
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from carlborg in Spielberg bowing out of Indy 5, James Mangold possibly taking over - Will John Williams score the movie?   
    Variety and other sources are reporting the Steven Spielberg will not direct Indy 5. James Mangold (Logan, 3:10 to Yuma and other films) is in final talks to take over the franchise.  
     
    https://variety.com/2020/film/news/steven-spielberg-indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1203515698/
     
    So, if this happens, what do we think that John Williams would stay with the project? Or do we think Marco Beltrami or someone else will take over?
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Tydirium in Spielberg bowing out of Indy 5, James Mangold possibly taking over - Will John Williams score the movie?   
    Variety and other sources are reporting the Steven Spielberg will not direct Indy 5. James Mangold (Logan, 3:10 to Yuma and other films) is in final talks to take over the franchise.  
     
    https://variety.com/2020/film/news/steven-spielberg-indiana-jones-5-james-mangold-harrison-ford-1203515698/
     
    So, if this happens, what do we think that John Williams would stay with the project? Or do we think Marco Beltrami or someone else will take over?
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Tiburon in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    If it's like the TV Academy, you can opt out of receiving physical media and rely only on digital. That's what I do. (I'm in the sound editors branch, so I don't get scores though and never have.)
     
    Back when I became a member in 1992, we used to get stacks upon stacks of VHS tapes. DVD's took about a decade after the format was released to displace that. Past few years have almost all been streaming, including, recently, an Apple TV ability to watch the shows.  
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    lairdo got a reaction from TheUlyssesian in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    If it's like the TV Academy, you can opt out of receiving physical media and rely only on digital. That's what I do. (I'm in the sound editors branch, so I don't get scores though and never have.)
     
    Back when I became a member in 1992, we used to get stacks upon stacks of VHS tapes. DVD's took about a decade after the format was released to displace that. Past few years have almost all been streaming, including, recently, an Apple TV ability to watch the shows.  
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    lairdo got a reaction from JTWfan77 in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    If it's like the TV Academy, you can opt out of receiving physical media and rely only on digital. That's what I do. (I'm in the sound editors branch, so I don't get scores though and never have.)
     
    Back when I became a member in 1992, we used to get stacks upon stacks of VHS tapes. DVD's took about a decade after the format was released to displace that. Past few years have almost all been streaming, including, recently, an Apple TV ability to watch the shows.  
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    lairdo got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in The Rise of Skywalker - For Your Consideration (FYC) Album Discussion - SPOILERS ALLOWED!   
    If it's like the TV Academy, you can opt out of receiving physical media and rely only on digital. That's what I do. (I'm in the sound editors branch, so I don't get scores though and never have.)
     
    Back when I became a member in 1992, we used to get stacks upon stacks of VHS tapes. DVD's took about a decade after the format was released to displace that. Past few years have almost all been streaming, including, recently, an Apple TV ability to watch the shows.  
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    lairdo got a reaction from apples in Jim Svejda interviews John Williams on Classical KUSC   
    I enjoyed the interview (the full one with the music). Am I right, did they basically play the entire TROS album? Seems like it.
     
    Many insightful comments from the Maestro. I enjoyed his speaking a bit about Don "Donald" Williams, his brother which led into the Herrmann story (that I too did not know). 
     
    At the beginning of the interview, he seemed confused between years and oscar noms, but I have guess as to why. At first I thought, oh no, he sounds forgetful! But he was really on top of his game in the interview, so I thought about it again.
     
    He may have been thinking that Jim was talking about 42 years of Star Wars movies, and the amazing achievement of working on a series spanning that. So, 52 being heard as 42. But then I pondered this: JW's 52 Oscar nominations are for the past 52 years. He was first nominated in 1968, 52 years ago, for the 1967 adaptation of Valley of the Dolls. So, he may have been thinking about that time period.
     
    Just let that sink in - John Williams has averaged 1 Oscar nomination a year for over half-a-century!
     
    Overall, he seemed genuine in his views on music, the JJ changes (which he keeps bringing up, so I think he *IS* in some ways is annoyed about them) and of course on Vienna. I was not aware that he had never even conducted on the continent before, though it makes sense were I to think it through. I do agree with Jim Svejda that JW should be asked to do the New Years Day concert (which is always aired on TV and released on CD!).
     
    Here's my John Williams conducting gig requests for Europe:
    1. Make up concert at Royal Albert Hall with the LSO
    2. Vienna New Years Day
    3. Waldbühne summer concert with the Berlin Philharmonic. (The Hollywood Bowl of the Berlin Phil)
    4. Conducting at the The Royal Concertgebouw in Amsterdam
    5. Sharing a night with Andris Nelsons at the Leipzig orchestra
     
     
     
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in Jim Svejda interviews John Williams on Classical KUSC   
    I enjoyed the interview (the full one with the music). Am I right, did they basically play the entire TROS album? Seems like it.
     
    Many insightful comments from the Maestro. I enjoyed his speaking a bit about Don "Donald" Williams, his brother which led into the Herrmann story (that I too did not know). 
     
    At the beginning of the interview, he seemed confused between years and oscar noms, but I have guess as to why. At first I thought, oh no, he sounds forgetful! But he was really on top of his game in the interview, so I thought about it again.
     
    He may have been thinking that Jim was talking about 42 years of Star Wars movies, and the amazing achievement of working on a series spanning that. So, 52 being heard as 42. But then I pondered this: JW's 52 Oscar nominations are for the past 52 years. He was first nominated in 1968, 52 years ago, for the 1967 adaptation of Valley of the Dolls. So, he may have been thinking about that time period.
     
    Just let that sink in - John Williams has averaged 1 Oscar nomination a year for over half-a-century!
     
    Overall, he seemed genuine in his views on music, the JJ changes (which he keeps bringing up, so I think he *IS* in some ways is annoyed about them) and of course on Vienna. I was not aware that he had never even conducted on the continent before, though it makes sense were I to think it through. I do agree with Jim Svejda that JW should be asked to do the New Years Day concert (which is always aired on TV and released on CD!).
     
    Here's my John Williams conducting gig requests for Europe:
    1. Make up concert at Royal Albert Hall with the LSO
    2. Vienna New Years Day
    3. Waldbühne summer concert with the Berlin Philharmonic. (The Hollywood Bowl of the Berlin Phil)
    4. Conducting at the The Royal Concertgebouw in Amsterdam
    5. Sharing a night with Andris Nelsons at the Leipzig orchestra
     
     
     
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Tydirium in Jim Svejda interviews John Williams on Classical KUSC   
    I enjoyed the interview (the full one with the music). Am I right, did they basically play the entire TROS album? Seems like it.
     
    Many insightful comments from the Maestro. I enjoyed his speaking a bit about Don "Donald" Williams, his brother which led into the Herrmann story (that I too did not know). 
     
    At the beginning of the interview, he seemed confused between years and oscar noms, but I have guess as to why. At first I thought, oh no, he sounds forgetful! But he was really on top of his game in the interview, so I thought about it again.
     
    He may have been thinking that Jim was talking about 42 years of Star Wars movies, and the amazing achievement of working on a series spanning that. So, 52 being heard as 42. But then I pondered this: JW's 52 Oscar nominations are for the past 52 years. He was first nominated in 1968, 52 years ago, for the 1967 adaptation of Valley of the Dolls. So, he may have been thinking about that time period.
     
    Just let that sink in - John Williams has averaged 1 Oscar nomination a year for over half-a-century!
     
    Overall, he seemed genuine in his views on music, the JJ changes (which he keeps bringing up, so I think he *IS* in some ways is annoyed about them) and of course on Vienna. I was not aware that he had never even conducted on the continent before, though it makes sense were I to think it through. I do agree with Jim Svejda that JW should be asked to do the New Years Day concert (which is always aired on TV and released on CD!).
     
    Here's my John Williams conducting gig requests for Europe:
    1. Make up concert at Royal Albert Hall with the LSO
    2. Vienna New Years Day
    3. Waldbühne summer concert with the Berlin Philharmonic. (The Hollywood Bowl of the Berlin Phil)
    4. Conducting at the The Royal Concertgebouw in Amsterdam
    5. Sharing a night with Andris Nelsons at the Leipzig orchestra
     
     
     
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Falstaft (hiatus til TROS) in Jim Svejda interviews John Williams on Classical KUSC   
    I enjoyed the interview (the full one with the music). Am I right, did they basically play the entire TROS album? Seems like it.
     
    Many insightful comments from the Maestro. I enjoyed his speaking a bit about Don "Donald" Williams, his brother which led into the Herrmann story (that I too did not know). 
     
    At the beginning of the interview, he seemed confused between years and oscar noms, but I have guess as to why. At first I thought, oh no, he sounds forgetful! But he was really on top of his game in the interview, so I thought about it again.
     
    He may have been thinking that Jim was talking about 42 years of Star Wars movies, and the amazing achievement of working on a series spanning that. So, 52 being heard as 42. But then I pondered this: JW's 52 Oscar nominations are for the past 52 years. He was first nominated in 1968, 52 years ago, for the 1967 adaptation of Valley of the Dolls. So, he may have been thinking about that time period.
     
    Just let that sink in - John Williams has averaged 1 Oscar nomination a year for over half-a-century!
     
    Overall, he seemed genuine in his views on music, the JJ changes (which he keeps bringing up, so I think he *IS* in some ways is annoyed about them) and of course on Vienna. I was not aware that he had never even conducted on the continent before, though it makes sense were I to think it through. I do agree with Jim Svejda that JW should be asked to do the New Years Day concert (which is always aired on TV and released on CD!).
     
    Here's my John Williams conducting gig requests for Europe:
    1. Make up concert at Royal Albert Hall with the LSO
    2. Vienna New Years Day
    3. Waldbühne summer concert with the Berlin Philharmonic. (The Hollywood Bowl of the Berlin Phil)
    4. Conducting at the The Royal Concertgebouw in Amsterdam
    5. Sharing a night with Andris Nelsons at the Leipzig orchestra
     
     
     
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from The Illustrious Jerry in John Williams cameo in The Rise of Skywalker   
    I was able to grab some pix during the movie yesterday. This sort of represents the best of what I could get with my phone on low brightness and basically in my lap. JW actually only has his eye(s) open for a very short time before looking down.
     
    About what is behind JW is definitely something that looks like a hook. The circular thing above that seems almost like the medallion from Raiders but when the shot widens, it looks less so. Clearly a droid's head to the right. Further to the right (but not in this image) is something that looks like a CB radio and on top of that some sort of lantern.
     
    Also, I doubt this was green screen. I think they just built a small part of a set behind him. It would have been less work than doing a composite shot, but I could be wrong.
     

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    lairdo got a reaction from Will in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    I think Gustavo should ask JW to conduct one song or track from West Side Story. That just seems pleasant to me given Bernstein and Williams were friends, Williams played on various West Side Story albums early in his career, Williams is a mentor of sorts to Dudamel, Dudamel conducted on Star Wars, and for good measure, Williams led the wonderful "Bernstein by Boston" album with the Boston Pops in the 80s.  In fact, as I recall, that album was my first real introduction to the music of Bernstein.
     
    But I guess I have slid off topic from Vienna!
     
    I have so enjoyed everyone's memories, images and thoughts about the concerts. From what I have heard, truly it was magical. Thank you for sharing.
     
    And if DG wants to release a load of versions and variants, I will happily buy them all - standard CD, deluxe CD, Blu-ray, LP, mini-LP, digital HD, CD/DVD combo, Coffee table book with CD - whatever!!!! Bring them out as soon as possible! (Please!)
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Tydirium in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    I think Gustavo should ask JW to conduct one song or track from West Side Story. That just seems pleasant to me given Bernstein and Williams were friends, Williams played on various West Side Story albums early in his career, Williams is a mentor of sorts to Dudamel, Dudamel conducted on Star Wars, and for good measure, Williams led the wonderful "Bernstein by Boston" album with the Boston Pops in the 80s.  In fact, as I recall, that album was my first real introduction to the music of Bernstein.
     
    But I guess I have slid off topic from Vienna!
     
    I have so enjoyed everyone's memories, images and thoughts about the concerts. From what I have heard, truly it was magical. Thank you for sharing.
     
    And if DG wants to release a load of versions and variants, I will happily buy them all - standard CD, deluxe CD, Blu-ray, LP, mini-LP, digital HD, CD/DVD combo, Coffee table book with CD - whatever!!!! Bring them out as soon as possible! (Please!)
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Taikomochi in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    I think Gustavo should ask JW to conduct one song or track from West Side Story. That just seems pleasant to me given Bernstein and Williams were friends, Williams played on various West Side Story albums early in his career, Williams is a mentor of sorts to Dudamel, Dudamel conducted on Star Wars, and for good measure, Williams led the wonderful "Bernstein by Boston" album with the Boston Pops in the 80s.  In fact, as I recall, that album was my first real introduction to the music of Bernstein.
     
    But I guess I have slid off topic from Vienna!
     
    I have so enjoyed everyone's memories, images and thoughts about the concerts. From what I have heard, truly it was magical. Thank you for sharing.
     
    And if DG wants to release a load of versions and variants, I will happily buy them all - standard CD, deluxe CD, Blu-ray, LP, mini-LP, digital HD, CD/DVD combo, Coffee table book with CD - whatever!!!! Bring them out as soon as possible! (Please!)
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from carlborg in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    I think Gustavo should ask JW to conduct one song or track from West Side Story. That just seems pleasant to me given Bernstein and Williams were friends, Williams played on various West Side Story albums early in his career, Williams is a mentor of sorts to Dudamel, Dudamel conducted on Star Wars, and for good measure, Williams led the wonderful "Bernstein by Boston" album with the Boston Pops in the 80s.  In fact, as I recall, that album was my first real introduction to the music of Bernstein.
     
    But I guess I have slid off topic from Vienna!
     
    I have so enjoyed everyone's memories, images and thoughts about the concerts. From what I have heard, truly it was magical. Thank you for sharing.
     
    And if DG wants to release a load of versions and variants, I will happily buy them all - standard CD, deluxe CD, Blu-ray, LP, mini-LP, digital HD, CD/DVD combo, Coffee table book with CD - whatever!!!! Bring them out as soon as possible! (Please!)
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from crumbs in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    Thanks to everyone sharing their thoughts and details about the performances. I'm reading a bunch of the comments to my wife (we are babysitting our new grandson in North Carolina this weekend), and she is as impressed as I am. We cannot believe how good he looks in the photos and how both humbled and proud he must feel. What a gift.
     
    So hope we get this on blu-ray soon!
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    lairdo got a reaction from Matthias in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    Thanks to everyone sharing their thoughts and details about the performances. I'm reading a bunch of the comments to my wife (we are babysitting our new grandson in North Carolina this weekend), and she is as impressed as I am. We cannot believe how good he looks in the photos and how both humbled and proud he must feel. What a gift.
     
    So hope we get this on blu-ray soon!
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    lairdo got a reaction from carlborg in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    Thanks to everyone sharing their thoughts and details about the performances. I'm reading a bunch of the comments to my wife (we are babysitting our new grandson in North Carolina this weekend), and she is as impressed as I am. We cannot believe how good he looks in the photos and how both humbled and proud he must feel. What a gift.
     
    So hope we get this on blu-ray soon!
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    lairdo got a reaction from Tydirium in John Williams to conduct the Vienna Philharmonic - January 18/19 2020   
    Thanks to everyone sharing their thoughts and details about the performances. I'm reading a bunch of the comments to my wife (we are babysitting our new grandson in North Carolina this weekend), and she is as impressed as I am. We cannot believe how good he looks in the photos and how both humbled and proud he must feel. What a gift.
     
    So hope we get this on blu-ray soon!
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    lairdo reacted to Jay in John Williams to conduct the Cleveland Orchestra in April 2020   
    https://www.clevescene.com/scene-and-heard/archives/2020/01/06/star-wars-composer-john-williams-to-conduct-the-cleveland-orchestra-in-april
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    lairdo got a reaction from Cerebral Cortex in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion - NO FILM SPOILERS   
    Perhaps a miss for JW, but if the filmmakers knew this is where that was going from Episode 7 to 9, I think Williams would have done something or set something up. It's at least a shared miss with Lucasfilm's handling of the directors and story development.
     
    There is also a small possibility that JW did not want to make the same accident from Ep 4 when he scored the music as if Luke & Leia would be a couple, and not brother and sister.
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    lairdo reacted to TheUlyssesian in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion - NO FILM SPOILERS   
    If it fit they wouldn't have cut it out.
     
    My guess - JW wrote a version of the speed chaser cue for an earlier version of the scene. 
     
    JJ then tinkered with the scene and recut it. JW adapted to it.
     
    JJ again recut it. JW is like fuck it - I am going to my original sketch and writing a concert arrangement for album. JJ baby you can use pieces from it or track music from other places as is your desire anyways.
     
    Both agree. 
     
    JW records his concert arrangement for album. JJ out of respect uses a tiny portion in the film.
     
    All sides happy. JJ can fuck the hell off. And we can get a great new piece in the vein of asteroid field.
     
    --
     
    Also listen to the full statement at 46s
     
     
    It is basically a full theme - not just an action figure. It has a full 4 phrases in this statement - that's almost too much for what is supposed to be an action figure to use in a chase scene. JW couldn't possibly hope to include such a broad statement in the scene specially when he is competing with loud FX. Methinks this might be an expansion of his original sketch - fleshed out for a concert setting.
     
    There is another full statement of the theme at 1:43 - first 3 phrases are intact, 4 has evolved a little bit this time. 
     
    Again at 2:32 there is a full statement of the theme - first 3 phrases are intact, 4th again has evolved. 
     
    (And honestly the theme is good enough to be an actual character theme for some other composer. It is good and memorable enough to be the heroic identity of the action hero character in a swashbuckling film for example. It is so easily malleable that the possibilities are endless.)
     
    So if you are to consider it a concert setting - this is how the theme is stated - 
     
    A. Teasing the first 2 phrases
    B. 1st full statement of theme
    C. 2nd full statement of theme with some changes
    D. 3rd full statement of theme with some changes
    E. last 2 phrases taking a bow in a concert ending setting
     
    The piece itself is also just begging to be performed in concerts. It would make an exciting, fast paced and entertaining and fun little performance piece.
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    lairdo got a reaction from iamleyeti in The Rise of Skywalker OST Album Discussion - NO FILM SPOILERS   
    First off, thanks @Jay for the awesome edit-free playlist. As many are saying, hearing the score with more fleshed out is really amazing. While I have listened a few times and specifically played a number of tracks, I am not sure where I sit on the score. I like it a lot - but I think until I see the film later today, I cannot fully decide how much I love it. And even saying that, I am not sure why - maybe I just want more time? I happen to love TPM score, but only am so-so on the movie. So, it's not really about that I guess. Anyway, I think it's all too new so far. And in fact with the disaster box set arriving this week, I am jumping between Williams scores a ton.
     
    One thing I did on my playlist and I offer it up to others to try or comment: I programed the concert suite Rise of Skywalker ahead of the main title. Sort of like an overture, although one that only introduces one theme as compared to more standard ones. I guess sort of like how Jerry Goldsmith opened Star Trek The Motion Picture with Ilia's theme played against a black screen. I like the way RoS ends and then a brief pause and bang, the main title. Anyway, give it a try.
     
    I also wonder if how Williams will program this suite in relation to others and I am going to play with that a bit - if we had to take 3 suites from the 9 films, and RoS had to be one, which other two would form a nice three piece experience? I sort of suspect RoS would be the middle one. Anyway, I guess I should start a thread on this idea. (So I did: https://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/31055-star-wars-suites-in-concert-how-would-you-program-them/ )
     
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    lairdo got a reaction from Amer in Music From The Star Wars Saga by Robert Ziegler & the Slovak National Symphony Orchestra   
    I think the album is fine, and the price for the CD is extremely reasonable - really very inexpensive for prices these days and full to the brim. This would be a nice gift for a new JW fan, for example.

    I think HSATP is very good on the album. I too have the live recordings from 2018, and this has the benefit of being studio recorded. I am fine with the pacing of it. Lots of reverb on the low string plucking which gives them a fairly heavenly/distant sound to my ear contrasting with the very present higher violins and violas. I like the transition at 2:59 which could have been taken slower by some, but felt like a good change in momentum before the big push with most of the orchestra swelling in at 3:25.
     
    Once we get TROS, and assuming it has 1 or 2 suite pieces, I do like the idea of creating a best of SW suites playlists.
     
     
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