Holko 9,542 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Just now, Andy said: I’m weird, but it’s precisely that cavernous (good word!) sound that makes it appealing. Like an echo from long ago. Or something. It really nails the “fantasy” sound. Huh, that's a nice way of looking at it. The fights and podling parties and more tangible parts are more upfront but the mystics and romantic theme have that quality. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,160 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Here’s a fun double feature pairing: The Dark Crystal / Dragonslayer Two completely divergent takes on the fantasy genre from around the same era. One with a lush, romantic and reverb-y recording. The other recorded with dry clarity and a modernist take. Both with source cues to enhance the world building. Holko and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 9 minutes ago, Andy said: The Dark Crystal / Dragonslayer Ooh! I like it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,558 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 I've never cared much for Jones' THE DARK CRYSTAL score, I'm afraid. For some reason, those half notes in the theme grate on me. A bit like another "Crystal" score -- the skull theme from INDY 4. BUT....I absolutely LOVE the film. I saw it for the first time just a couple of years ago, and fell immediately in love. 5 of 5. AVATAR-like world building decades before the actual AVATAR. Also adored the television show. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 I've always liked the film. I saw it when it reached my local flea-pit, in early '83. I saw it in the afternoon, went home, had something to eat, and went straight back to watch GANDHI. Guess which film I enjoyed more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,436 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 A.I. Artificial Intelligence (LLL) by John Williams Today I really wanted to revisit this score, what a treat. First disc is so great, I really love this sound of childhood Williams developed while already having some darker melodies in the second half. Disc 2 is simply perfect, it feels like one single track full of light and dream. Finally disc 3 is what could have been a very nice alternate to the original album, revisiting the whole score in shorten program. So glad to have 3 versions of Abandonned in the Wood which is probably my favourite cue with Where Dreams are Born It's amazing how much this score as grown on me over the years, now it might even be in my top ten (if I consider the SW as only one work) Bespin and Andy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,407 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, Thor said: BUT....I absolutely LOVE the film. I saw it for the first time just a couple of years ago, and fell immediately in love. 5 of 5. AVATAR-like world building decades before the actual AVATAR. Also adored the television show. Actually, when I thought about what I like about The Dark Crystal I remembered, what you said about Avatar and how you don't care much about the story but enjoy the world building. As much as we disagree there on Avatar (for that the movie is far to long and I am too anoyed by these Karl May native American clichés for the Navi) for Dark Crystal it was the same for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,558 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 So great that Gerald Fried is still with us at age 94. I got this on CD-R from a US friend some 20 years ago, and I've loved it ever since. Swingin', cool, suave big band jazz. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 10 Cloverfield Lane. My favourite score and album from Bear McCreary. It's very nicely thought out dramatically (probably even overdone in some respects) but it makes a rewarding listening experience. It's also fun to read very extensive "making of" liner notes in the CD booklet. Karol Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,160 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: A.I. Artificial Intelligence (LLL) by John Williams Today I really wanted to revisit this score, what a treat. First disc is so great, I really love this sound of childhood Williams developed while already having some darker melodies in the second half. Disc 2 is simply perfect, it feels like one single track full of light and dream. Finally disc 3 is what could have been a very nice alternate to the original album, revisiting the whole score in shorten program. So glad to have 3 versions of Abandonned in the Wood which is probably my favourite cue with Where Dreams are Born It's amazing how much this score as grown on me over the years, now it might even be in my top ten (if I consider the SW as only one work) I listened through all 3 discs this week also. Stupid me from 20 years ago did NOT get this film, so I didn't give the score the attention it deserved. Now, every listen is so compelling and captivating. This score just gets better with age. Consequently, I like the film a whole lot better than I did when it premiered. One of the aspects I find fascinating is "Monica's Theme" in The Reunion is played so straight, with so much tenderness. Williams could've telegraphed that resurrected Monica was "artificial" herself, and suggested either discordant or distant uncertainty into the music. But no, this is the perfect musical blanket of love for David's perfect day. (which is artificial). Genius level. I am astonished that there isn't a concert suite making the rounds. Holko and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 3 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Actually, when I thought about what I like about The Dark Crystal I remembered, what you said about Avatar and how you don't care much about the story but enjoy the world building. As much as we disagree there on Avatar (for that the movie is far to long and I am too anoyed by these Karl May native American clichés for the Navi) for Dark Crystal it was the same for me. Karl May?! Are you German by any chance? 😉😅😜😛 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,505 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 I thought he intended to say "Karl Marx", but either his phone autocorrect him or he didn't want to get banned by the censors... I mean, the moderators. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 Dick Tracy - Danny Elfman Good score with some amazing moments. I listened to it for the first time again in 8 years. It was better than I remember. The action music is especially great. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 40 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I thought he intended to say "Karl Marx", but either his phone autocorrect him or he didn't want to get banned by the censors..* " May" was a German writer who wrote novels about the American West. * right the first time😉 Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,225 Posted May 14, 2022 Share Posted May 14, 2022 2 hours ago, bruce marshall said: " May" was a German writer who wrote novels about the American West. …without ever having visited it himself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 10 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: I've always liked the film. I saw it when it reached my local flea-pit, in early '83. I saw it in the afternoon, went home, had something to eat, and went straight back to watch GANDHI. Guess which film I enjoyed more... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,027 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 The Cloverfield Paradox. Not quite as good as the previous one but still a very solid work. The album is probably a bit too long the final segments of it are worth the patience. Empire of the Sun. One of the most peculiar scores and films in Williams' career. He managed to nevertheless navigate this situation with a wonderfully idiosyncratic work. Somewhere between fantasy and real life drama, it's an interesting precursor to A.I. and, oddly, Jurassic Park. Cobb. One of Goldenthal's forgotten gems. Very much worth the time. Karol Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 More good bluesy jazz! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 It's almost as good as BODY HEAT. Almost... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 BH is top five Barry and Top Forty ALL- TIME! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 Yes. BODY HEAT is also in my top-5 Barry. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 DOLORES CLAIBORNE OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,118 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 7 hours ago, crocodile said: Cobb. One of Goldenthal's forgotten gems. Very much worth the time. Can't remember that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,489 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 James Horner - The Four Feathers OST James Horner - Sneakers OST James Horner - The Spitfire Grill OST James Horner - The Perfect Storm OST Raiders of the SoundtrArk and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 15, 2022 Share Posted May 15, 2022 16 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Can't remember that one. You think you're so funny!😙 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Can't remember that one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Evil Dead - Roque Baños This score is great! It's 70 minutes of full on horror, so it's not an easy listening but the things Baños does with the orchestra and choir are terrific. And the use of the siren is genius. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 9 hours ago, Bespin said: James Horner - The Four Feathers OST James Horner - Sneakers OST James Horner - The Spitfire Grill OST James Horner - The Perfect Storm OST One of those is brilliant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 12 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: One of those is brilliant. And one is not brilliant but a much better listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,974 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Planes & Planes: Fire And Rescue - Mark Mancina Don't know what it is, but I love these score. Just a lot of fun. Tallguy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,421 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Those scores are great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,411 Posted May 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2022 The scores are pretty good. The main titles are mind blowing! For today's Jerry double feature: Hoosiers - 1987 - Jerry Goldsmith (Intrada) Rudy - 1993 - Jerry Goldsmith Obviously these live in a similar space. I find Rudy to be more emotional, Hoosiers is more exciting. Of course Hoosiers is also emotional and Rudy is certainly exciting. Both of these are kind of peak Goldsmith. Hoosiers is just electronic enough without going full Runaway. They both have great melodies. They're both very Goldsmith without being by the numbers. For comparison Forever Young is a great Goldsmith score that kind of falls outside of these lines. Anyway, it was a wonderful morning. I should listen to Field of Dreams next. No, wait, I haven't played The Natural in forever! Bespin, Naïve Old Fart, Andy and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 16, 2022 RUDY is a fine score, and HOOSIERS is top-10 Jerry, for me. Bespin, bruce marshall, Not Mr. Big and 1 other 1 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,411 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 I haven't seen either film in ages. I don't know how much of Rudy is missing (or if I want more). Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 9 hours ago, Tallguy said: I haven't seen either film in ages. I don't know how much of Rudy is missing (or if I want more). You don't, really, It's repetitive even on the album. Cristiada aka For Greater Glory (after last week's Horner concert): Huge oratory-like score to a mexican revolutionary epos aka christian propaganda movie. Hard to love, like a christmas family vacation that runs too long, but you still wouldn't want to miss it. So it's like many of Horner's later career scores, you just have to suspend disbelief and ignore the hefty self-referencing and run with it, then it's suddenly one of the more memorable and lush epic scores of the last 15 years. It features a magical hispanized main theme, taking a note or two from Lenny Bernstein's durable 'One Hand, one Heart' from 'West Side Story', to which Horner even contributed a short lyric (thankfully it only includes 'heart', but not 'hand'). On the downside, it's joined by tons of danger motif and the main theme from 'The Four Feathers', both so verbatim that it gives a bad name to verbatim. Also, i'm often in Mexico and i find it just weird that composers use a spanish idiom because it's geographically and ethnically wrong. It also features Shakuhachi, of course, but at least no bagpipes. It's strong in the storyteller department, where Horner's undeniable talent always lay. Once you're past all the redundancies, Horner unfolds tons of long cues that span from inspirational to violent, with a painterly brush and a big tendency toward oratorio classical form. There's a huge religious edification drive to it - wouldn't you believe it with cue titles like "Men Will Fire Bullets, But God Decides Where They Land" - and imho it's a shame that Horner wasn't able to get past his obsession of re-using his old stuff (and not bettering it, exactly), which drags scores like this down a lot. Like the family statements in the Szczecin concert alluded to, his Asperger dysfunction probably played a strong hand in this. Miniscule changes in a horn phrase would mean all to him, whereas the listener just goes 'huh'? But it is as it is, and if 'For greater Glory' is your first Horner, you're in for a treat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,359 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Speed. What a main theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,118 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 What? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,294 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Star Wars II: Attack of the Clones - Thought I should give it a listen given its two decade old status. Still a fine score, with a poignant, pleasingly over the top love theme, which manages to transcend the insipid romance on screen. The action writing is a bit more streamlined than in Phantom Menace (and further still from the original trilogy action writing), but still very enjoyable. I'm sure there are a couple of more interesting cues that could have gone instead of The Tusken Camp And The Homestead which, while important in a story context, isn't the most interesting music on the album. I remember thinking how the finale felt like lots of bits bolted together and must have been some kind of medley unrelated to the film... but clearly it was basically written that way, but the transitions are more enjoyable from the eerie Count Dooku (or as I think of him, Count Duckula) music to the rousing blast of the Imperial March before the credits roll. It still doesn't have the expert end credits suite transitions of either the original trilogy or the sequel scores - only with Revenge of the Sith did he cobble something a bit more interesting together with a few very effective segues. I never bothered with any of the re/demastered editions and so have the original release (with the fun, additional Conveyor belt track) but I always found the recording kinda wooly. Not to the extent that instruments are obscured as such, but if you listen to how (say) the original Star Wars was recorded, the brass positively blast through the orchestral texture but here it all feels a bit lacking in dynamism. I would hope that any expanded release (as if haha) of the prequels gives them a slightly dryer, crisper sound as all of the prequel scores have that kind of recording quality to a greater or lesser extent, although I think Clones probably comes off worst. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,381 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 He actually reworked the end credits several times, there are versions that haven't surfaced at all/were not recorded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,411 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 To think, twenty years and two days ago I was listening to the Attack of the Clones score and I was super excited for the movie. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Ok, so...who collected all four (?) covers? Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,489 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 52 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Ok, so...who collected all four (?) covers? I took the one with Anakin and Padmé (not the poster drawing)! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 I bought the one with Yoda. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 969 Posted May 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2022 I have seen the film but this is my first listen of the score. One of those that slipped past me despite it being an Oscar winner. Loyalty to Ang Lee aside, Danna's penchant for South Asian stylings made him a perfect candidate for this - I've always enjoyed his injection of that region in his music. Anyway, I love this; even at its most energetic it is full of whimsy and joy. But when it goes into that exotically soothing mode... with those haunting Indian woodwinds... it is heavenly. Crikey. Colour me a fan. Naïve Old Fart, JNHFan2000 and Edmilson 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 It's a good score. It's not his best, but it is good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 4 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's a good score. It's not his best, but it is good. No, it's not his best, but I can see this hitting a very particular spot when I'm in the mood. Oo-er missus. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,318 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Ok, so...who collected all four (?) covers? Everyone on this site except YOU and ME! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,603 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 We are the shame, Highlander. We are brothersh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post LSH 969 Posted May 18, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted May 18, 2022 It has taken some time to appreciate but I'm there. This is truly gorgeous - and the Thomas Newman I want to hear more of in the future. Somehow I didn't notice it first time but this score has a lot of the Newman trademarks that we all love. The deep yet subtle expertly layered strings, the haunting piano drops, the plucky adjuncts, the atmosphere.... and choir to boot! And while you might not call them 'themes', the many motifs in this work prove that Newman is still capable of smart leitmotif writing... even if the majority of his output is still comfortably in short-form, as he likes it. There are nine cues here that breach the two-minute mark! I LOVE THIS. Bespin, JNHFan2000 and Edmilson 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,411 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 8 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Everyone on this site except YOU and ME! I don't believe I have ever bought multiple versions of a CD for covers. I haven't even bought multiple versions of a comic book for covers. (NO, all of my versions of Star Trek and Superman don't count!) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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