Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Jerry Goldsmith - Papillon (1973) With The Way we Were and Cinderella liberty, I've created a temporal loop stuck in 1973. Waouuuuu! (I know, that's not the best sounding release of it) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 58 minutes ago, Andy said: I’m thinking I should check out Kong, and then what? Wyatt Earp would be a good move. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Knight of Ren 789 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Avatar - James Horner I got to watch the film on cinemas for its re-release, and then went straight to listening to the score again. I think it's one of my personal Horner favorites, and being able to experience it in cinemas, with the score blasting through the speakers was such a great experience. I know we can argue that there's not much originality in here, and some of his main themes are derived from his previous work, but this is what Horner did, and I'm okay with that, since he manages to present them in new, interesting settings. He gets so much mileage of the main love theme, with lots of different variations, but my favorite without a doubt is the complete development of the idea in "Becoming One of The People / Becoming One with Neytiri", which remains as one of my favorite Horner cues, because it's one of the first ones that introduced me to his music. And then we have all the different Na'vi themes, and I really love how he explores theme in action settings in "Gathering All the Na'vi Clans" and of course in the astonishing cue that is "War", which always manages to give me chills, and it's one of my favorite pieces of music ever. And I think this score benefits from a more complete listening experience, since the album assembly, while great on its own, misses a few key pieces worth having (Thanator Attack or Quaritch Down are two that instantly come to mind). Great score, and I cannot wait to hear what Simon Franglen does with this musical universe! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 @AndyI would say these JNH scores are essentials, yes Kong, of course: The Fugitive The Village Wyatt Earp The Dark Night (shared with Hans Zimmer) Defiance Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Andy said: I have, for the most part not had JNH land on my radar. As a child of the 70s and 80s, I felt that films and scores of the 90s had dipped in quality. JNH seemed to personify the cinematic sound of the decade. Theme-ish, but rather trailer-like for the time. That said, I’m giving his work a second listen, and that started this week with Alive , which I listened through twice. It’s short of delightful, but quite good. Pretty amazing that I remember the “Saved” melody from the trailers and end credits after almost 30 years. It’s a pleasant listen, and I’m really glad I gave it a chance. Next up is a revisit of Waterworld. I’m thinking I should check out Kong, and then what? Treasure Planet and Atlantis. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 12 hours ago, Andy said: I have, for the most part not had JNH land on my radar. As a child of the 70s and 80s, I felt that films and scores of the 90s had dipped in quality. JNH seemed to personify the cinematic sound of the decade. Theme-ish, but rather trailer-like for the time. That said, I’m giving his work a second listen, and that started this week with Alive , which I listened through twice. It’s short of delightful, but quite good. Pretty amazing that I remember the “Saved” melody from the trailers and end credits after almost 30 years. It’s a pleasant listen, and I’m really glad I gave it a chance. Next up is a revisit of Waterworld. I’m thinking I should check out Kong, and then what? Signs, go to Signs before all other JNH Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, Bespin said: The Dark Night (shared with Hans Zimmer) I wouldn't say that one is essential for new JNH fans. He pratically only did the Harvey Dent theme and the cue for the final confrontation between Dent, Batman and Gordon. All the rest was Zimmer + his gang. Believe, there's countless other better JNH scores than this to discover. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 It's that time of the year again... Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, Andy said: Next up is a revisit of Waterworld. I’m thinking I should check out Kong, and then what? You can't go wrong with the triple threat of Signs, The Village, and Lady in the Water (my personal favourite JNH). That early to mid-2000s Shyamalan period remains his best work, I think. In more recent memory, A Hidden Life is another one worth checking out, although definitely more oriented towards Malick's propensity for keeping his classical music temps. Happy discovering! Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 My list wanted to be the most objective possible (according to factual criterias)... then welcome to JWFAN, now everyone will go with their personnal preferences! It’ll be two days! hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 14 hours ago, LSH said: Wyatt Earp would be a good move. After that, try ATLANTIS. Nah. You're all wrong. GRAND CANYON is his magnum opus. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 6, 2022 I recently discovered Wyatt Earp and my reaction was "Where have you been all my life?" Edmilson, Bespin and LSH 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,371 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: You can't go wrong with the triple threat of Signs, The Village, and Lady in the Water (my personal favourite JNH). That early to mid-2000s Shyamalan period remains his best work, I think. Why nobody else got a crush on Unbreakable? It is my favourite of his. Even though I don't particularly like the album. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Stop saying it's good, because all it does is raise the price of the OST on the used market. - The Direction Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Unbreakable is the only JNH score I've really gotten to admire, since anything else of his requires more attention that I admittedly tend to not often have. Maleficent might be a more technically proficient work, and Peter Pan a flashier effort, but I guess anything remotely tied to superheroes almost always gets me out the gate. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 So now Peter Pan is a superhero? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 30 minutes ago, Bespin said: So now Peter Pan is a superhero? When was he not? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 6, 2022 Share Posted October 6, 2022 Sorry, I have to reboot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 I've enjoyed quite a bit John Wilson's newest album with the Sinfonia of London, Hollywood Soundstage, but I am going to air one very minor nitpick (what else is an internet forum for?). The recording and performance of the suite from The Wizard of Oz is lovely, but there's one decision right at the start that kinda bothers me. There's the (IMO) iconic part in the opening fanfare where a chorus goes "ooooooOOOOOOOOOOOOOOoooooooh" You know the part: (0:12) I totally get not hiring a chorus for one tiny little part like that, but it is an essential part of the composition. But in Wilson's recording, they just play the orchestral part under the chorus with no alteration. It's weird and something is obviously missing. It's very deflating coming right at the beginning. Couldn't the arranger have come up with some way using the orchestra to imitate the chorus? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 8, 2022 Share Posted October 8, 2022 Adults In The Room - Alexandre Desplat Never heard this before or knew it excisted, but it was recommended to me after I listened to his new score The Lost King by my music app. I quite like it. It's typical Desplat. A bit quirky sometimes but very well orchestrated & recorded. I will revisted this again in the future. Tom Guernsey and publicist 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Big - Howard Shore Such a lovely (I feel quite underrated) score. I always enjoy it very much Tom Guernsey and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thestat 348 Posted October 10, 2022 Share Posted October 10, 2022 This one by Silvestri's a beauty, the end credits to Judge Dredd. To me, this is what Silvestri would have done if he'd got the Batman Forever gig in 1995, especially that fanfare in the first 50 seconds or so: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Knight of Ren 789 Posted October 11, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 11, 2022 The Rocketeer - James Horner I listened to the Intrada remaster and boy it's such a fun score! I have to say that the added material isn't really that satisfying apart from a couple of cues with new interesting variations on the themes. But the original program is still excellent. Horner's trademark stylings are all over the score, dripping with personality and a sense of awe and adventure that is sorely missed in many modern scores. His main theme is a classic and I also really love Jenny's Theme, and the "Rocketeer to the Rescue" cue, with both themes playing in full as a sort of concert suite (with that insane brass ending) it's definitely one of Horner's career highlights! Jungle Cruise - James Newton Howard James Newton Howard is one of my favorite composers, and I love that here he was able to create such a lively score, full of swashbuckling action set-pieces with Lily's Theme and Frank's Theme, but also emotional moments with the Love Theme, and the Tears of the Moon Theme, while still maintaining his overall style in some action cues, like The Rapids. I have to say that the album needs a bit of trimming to offer a better listening experience, and the Metallica cover, while really cool on its own (I love how he incorporates the electric guitars and the choir into the orchestral palette), it doesn't really fit stylistically within the rest of the score, which is much more oriented towards a classical orchestral sound. Even so, I really like this score and I hope the sequel gets made just so James Newton Howard can develop and expands on his themes. crocodile, Jay, Tallguy and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 11, 2022 Share Posted October 11, 2022 First Man - Justin Hurwitz The cut at 2:55…. goosebumps every time… The Illustrious Jerry and Knight of Ren 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 13, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2022 King Kong - James Newton Howard Love this!! And I've said it before and will say it again. The 5 part Beauty Killed The Beast is one of the best and my favorite 15 minutes of scoring. So many different emotions & beautiful themes. Always gives me goosebumps Tallguy, Bespin, Edmilson and 1 other 1 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 Bespin and Andy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 It's probably a little alarming how often I listen to the full 15 minute version of Meco's Star Wars. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 John Williams - Always (expanded score). A bit of maths here... the OST featured 6 "songs" (including two versions of Smoke gets in your eyes) that were all featured on the "A" side of the LP. The expanded set features only 3 new tracks from the score... I think, I'll try to make a C&C playlist, because... I don't know... I can't really keep myslef focused while listening to the expanded set, something is missing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted October 16, 2022 Share Posted October 16, 2022 Wow. This is the last best thing Newman has done. It's gorgeous. My god. It almost plays out like a very serious Nemo sequel. Edmilson and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 455 Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 Hard Rain - Christopher Young It plays like a Young-scored Die Hard movie and quite entertaining. Unlike The Core, the album isn't too long and the clarity and depth of the recording is impressive even now. I wish Young recorded in London more, because Hard Rain sounds bigger than Drag Me to Hell and Spider-Man 3 in places. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 In a phase of wanting to explore some new stuff/or scores I havem't heard in a while from lot's of different composers. Starting at A and working my way through the alphabet. Alan Silvestri is up first. Romancing The Stone: Fun, but forgettable. Synths are quite dated The Abyss: I always find the middle section a bit of a slog, but that ending is spectacular Predator 2: I really like this one. Quite different from the first but not less enjoyable. Death Becomes Her: Love this theme. Silvestri is a really strong theme writer and doesn't get enough credit for it. And his comedy scores are always a lot of fun. This theme and the theme from Mouse Hunt are gold. Super Mario Bros.: Never seen the film, all I know is that Goldsmith was attached to this at some point. I really like the main theme here. It's classic Silvestri comedy/action, so I'm not complaining. Judge Dredd: Another terrific theme! Volcano: This ones a bit more 'by the numbers' and I do enjoy the short album more than the deluxe version. Contact: A beautiful theme. Some of the middle drags a little, but when the theme is used I feel it's top tier Silvestri. Continuing tomorrow with more Silvestri, starting with The Parent Trap Jay and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 7 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: Death Becomes Her: Love this theme. Silvestri is a really strong theme writer and doesn't get enough credit for it. And his comedy scores are always a lot of fun. This theme and the theme from Mouse Hunt are gold. Yep, he sure knows how to write a memorable, iconic theme. If you liked his lighter comedy scores, you should check Father of the Bride 1 and 2. Two wonderful scores and pretty brief albums, so you can just listen one after the other! JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 18, 2022 Share Posted October 18, 2022 51 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Yep, he sure knows how to write a memorable, iconic theme. If you liked his lighter comedy scores, you should check Father of the Bride 1 and 2. Two wonderful scores and pretty brief albums, so you can just listen one after the other! I know those. I love those! Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 Alan Silvestri, Pt. 2 The Parent Trap: Quite basic Silvestri, but I really love when he writes in this style. The suite at the beginning is gorgeous as is the finale. It's just lovely. Ricochet: Might be his most brutal action score. I liked it, but won't revisit it often. (Same feeling for Shattered) What Lies Beneath: Not for me. Even though the album is short, is really drags. The final 3 tracks are enjoyable, but mostly because it's a very good impression of Herrmann. Maid In Manhatten: I woule call this score cutesy. Nice theme, but again quite basic Silvestri. Lilo & Stitch: 3 tracks and I don't remember a single not. Lara Croft: Cradle Of Life: I like the Cradle Of Life cue, but other than that, this is not a score for me. The Wild: First track is womderful. Rest is quite forgettable and standard. Beowulf: I like it, but that's kinda it. There are some great action moments but nothing ever grabs my attention fully. I feel the same about G.I. Joe & The A-Team. The electronics don't always work for me and once in a while a grand orchestral thematic statement happens but it's enough to hold my attention for 60 to 70 minutes per album. His later action scores like Captain America, Ready Player One & The Avengers films I find way better and more like his best scores in the genre like BTTF. Flight: Meh. I didn't really like it😐 Allied: The romantic theme is gorgeous and makes me wish Silvestri did more dramas and comedies next to all the action films. He really is a master there as well. Cosmos: A SpaceTime Oddysey: Not sure if 4 albums is wanted for this, it's just a bit much. 1.5 hours would've been fine. But a lot of it is really strong. I really like it! I've gone through Silvestri's scores I've never heard or heard for a while. Next up: Alexandre Desplat Jay and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 19, 2022 Share Posted October 19, 2022 OST reconstruction of "Mark Isham - Fire in the Sky" from the 2022 LLL set (a little bit longer than the OST in fact, because of the merged track 4 "Town meeting / Polygraph Test", I can live with it). Any thoughts about this score? I bought it eyes closed... I did not even listened to it yet! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,967 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Alexandre Desplat I've listened to a lot of his scores from Framce a few years back so not going through those. Girl With A Pearl Earring: Wonderful main theme and it is interesting throughout it's 50 minutes. I quite like this. Birth & The Painted Veil: These are together mostly because I feel the same about them. I enjoy certain tracks but both albums don't do much for me otherwise. I can appreciate the albums, but I don't really like them. Firewall: Cool score. Desplat is actually very good at action. I know that from Valerian, Godzilla or Rise Of The Guardians, but fun to hear an action score from earlier in his career. The Queen: More rhyhtmic based and a bit subdued, but I thought it was very beautiful. The Golden Compass: Somehow I never got to this score, although I know a lot of people think it's one of his best. I really like the action tracks and the more up-beat ones as well. But I find there are also a bit too much filler cues for my taste. Some cues I thought weren't that interesting. A shorter album would be better, 73 minutes for this score is too long for me. The Curious Case Of Benjamin Button: Gorgeous. It's been quite a long time since I heard this. But I enjoy it very much. Julie & Julia: I know this score is not one of his best but I just love his more upbeat and playful scores. Both themes are a joy and the half hour runtime is perfect. Desplat is a wonderful dramatic composer but how I enjoy scores like this and Fantastic Mr. Fox, Rise Of The Guardians & The Secret Life Of Pets New Moon: Good score, but same feeling as Golden Compass. Album's too long and I don't find everything interesting. The Tree Of Life: I like it. But won't revisit it again probably. It's very subdued and not really anything to connect too. The King's Speech, Philomena & The Danish Girl: All typical Desplat scores. All lovely. Next up Alfred Newman (who I haven't heard a lot of scores from) Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,371 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 18 hours ago, Bespin said: OST reconstruction of "Mark Isham - Fire in the Sky" from the 2022 LLL set (a little bit longer than the OST in fact, because of the merged track 4 "Town meeting / Polygraph Test", I can live with it). Any thoughts about this score? I bought it eyes closed... I did not even listened to it yet! Question to that. I mean, Mark Isham is really a damn skilled soundtrack composer. But did he ever write something, that you would call a memorable theme? I listened to some of his scores and mostly found them quite atmospheric, stylistically well made, but never any of his melodies got stuck in my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Question to that. I mean, Mark Isham is really a damn skilled soundtrack composer. But did he ever write something, that you would call a memorable theme? I listened to some of his scores and mostly found them quite atmospheric, stylistically well made, but never any of his melodies got stuck in my head. Why would a composer compose memorable music for a scene or film that is not memorable? It would be completely counterproductive! Some types of films require a more subtle approach. Moreover, I have not yet examined Mark Isham’s work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, GerateWohl said: Question to that. I mean, Mark Isham is really a damn skilled soundtrack composer. But did he ever write something, that you would call a memorable theme? I listened to some of his scores and mostly found them quite atmospheric, stylistically well made, but never any of his melodies got stuck in my head. He had quite a few. GerateWohl 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 Starting my discovery of Mark Isham... let's look at those Varèse Sarabande compilations first! + this Kunzel re-recording, of course! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,401 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Why would a composer compose memorable music for a scene or film that is not memorable? Ask Elmer Bernstein. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,371 Posted October 20, 2022 Share Posted October 20, 2022 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Why would a composer compose memorable music for a scene or film that is not memorable? It would be completely counterproductive! Then probably Mark Isham should have scored War Horse. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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GerateWohl 4,371 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 That is an enjoyable album. Apart from 25th Hour I am not really familiar with Blanchard's work. Saw some of the movies but didn't remember the score. Great harmonies, atmospheric uplifting John Barry strings and the right dose of jazz, that even I as a not jazz maniac can enjoy. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Pure uncut 2002 and I love it. I was obsessed with this soundtrack at 15! About a Boy still under-appreciated as the classic it is. And I get to sneak in a pop song to the score thread on a technicality GerateWohl and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 14 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Pure uncut 2002 and I love it. Some prefer them uncut! Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 Spotlight by Howard Shore Simply beautiful Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 At last some love for Howard Shore! Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted October 21, 2022 Share Posted October 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Pure uncut 2002 and I love it. I was obsessed with this soundtrack at 15! About a Boy still under-appreciated as the classic it is. And I get to sneak in a pop song to the score thread on a technicality A lovely quirky indie pop score with some terrific catchy songs in the mix too. I’m sure I have another score by Badly Drawn Boy but not at home to check! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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