Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Probably needed those talking head historians interjecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 "What academics neglect to tell us is that Lincoln was a politician during the day but a vampire slayer at night." Chen G. and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 2 hours ago, Chen G. said: “If you want to shock an audience, get them almost to the point of boredom before doing so.” You're leaving? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Come, come, Mr. Lee. Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Mr. Lee was a big hit in Norway. Now he's kind of outdated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Come, come, Mr. Lee. Young minds, fresh ideas. Be tolerant. I was only pulling Chen's leg! He's alright. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Aye, lad, and if his grandmother had wheels, she'd be a wagon Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I'd still rather rewatch Lincoln than RP1. At least it's a real movie and I might get a good sleep out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Waterworld (theatrical cut) Entertaining enough with a great James Newton Howard score. The Arrow bluray is exquisite! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 14 hours ago, Chen G. said: Realizing the movie isn’t going to have any action scenes was one of the reasons I switched channels. Why NOT include war scenes in a American-Civil-War movie?! And by Steven Spielberg, no less? It’s not even that there is no action, it’s that’s such an approach is indicative of the movie’s style and preoccupations: it’s the sort of film that thinks it’s subject matter is so lofty, that having action will somehow taint it, but having people talk in rooms, on the other hand... Hence back to “stately, respectable...and dead.” Spielberg could barely get this film funded and distributed. It was in limbo for the better part of a decade. People talking in rooms can have its own rising action and entertainment value, see Aaron Sorkin. Now, I have yet to see Lincoln, but another film that broach's the subject is the lovely The Better Angels. Also with no "action." SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post KK 3,307 Posted August 18, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2020 Not that I was particularly taken with the film, but that a biopic requires big action scenes to not be "dead" is such a silly pre-requisite. Why must there be big battle scenes if they have no real relevance to the film's central questions? That's just Hollywood studio nonsense talk. Brundlefly, Holko, Marian Schedenig and 3 others 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 Its NOT a biopic. Its a period piece that mostly focuses on a single month in Lincoln's life: January 1965. The movie certainly loves reminding us that its a wartime movie, with allusions to fighting happening offscreen and even visits to the battlefield in the aftermath of the fighting. Especially coming from Spielberg, that's just being a tease. But the issue isn't that there aren't action setpieces (although I would have loved some: I have certain tastes, and naturally I judge films based on my tastes) its that the movie thinks itself as being above having action scenes from the outset, which sets it up as a rather pompous affair. Now, I can enjoy actionless wartime movies: I liked The Darkest Hour just fine. But with this one I wasn't feeling it. Its still a perfectly okay movie; its just a little dull, and I do think working some action into the story could have spiced it up slightly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: I'd still rather rewatch Lincoln than RP1. At least it's a real movie and I might get a good sleep out of it. Yeah but we all know you'll not do anything of the sort and just watch Batman again instead. Because you're a balanced kind of guy who regularly exhibits personal growth and all that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 You're hurting my feelings! Quintus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I've never heard Lincoln described as a bio pic before. it's not about his whole life, it's just about the end of the Civil War and the ratification of the 13th amendment Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 I've never heard it described as a film that reflects one's personal growth and/or balance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: Its NOT a biopic. Its a period piece that mostly focuses on a single month in Lincoln's life: January 1965. The movie certainly loves reminding us that its a wartime movie, with allusions to fighting happening offscreen and even visits to the battlefield in the aftermath of the fighting. Especially coming from Spielberg, that's just being a tease. But the issue isn't that there aren't action setpieces (although I would have loved some: I have certain tastes, and naturally I judge films based on my tastes) its that the movie thinks itself as being above having action scenes from the outset, which sets it up as a rather pompous affair. 31 minutes ago, Jay said: I've never heard Lincoln described as a bio pic before. it's not about his whole life, it's just about the end of the Civil War and the ratification of the 13th amendment Right. That was a general throwaway term to describe these kind of films broadly, and hardly my point. I still don't understand why a film that's primarily interested in Lincoln's motivations and inner conflicts during the end of the Civil War needs to dramatize battles to justify its existence. Isn't that just pointless window dressing? What does it add? I mean at the end of the day, the film is about Lincoln more than the Civil War. It's like HBO producers asking for more tits and arse in Game of Thrones. I don't know why that suddenly makes a film pretentious. Sounds more like an integrity move on the filmmakers' part, if anything. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted August 18, 2020 Share Posted August 18, 2020 1 hour ago, Chen G. said: I have certain tastes, and naturally I judge films based on my tastes I think what makes one able to truly judge a movie is the the ability to know when personal tastes are keeping one from seeing real merit. It is kind of ridiculous to hold every historical picture up to Braveheart or whatever to make your determination on whether or not it is really good. Lincoln is a bit slow for my tastes too. But I don't judge its merit based on how it compares to my favorite movies. Holko 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 He sold poison milk to school children. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly yesterday. It was the first time that I saw the film in a cinema, and in a nice 35mm print as well. I am happy to see that Sergio Leone's inventive directing still stands the test of time, and the editing is just mind-blowing. Of course, the score by Ennio Morricone is what really connects it all together into an unforgettable experience. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 hours ago, Chen G. said: Its a period piece that mostly focuses on a single month in Lincoln's life: January 1965. Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 1 hour ago, Biodome said: I saw The Good, the Bad and the Ugly yesterday. It was the first time that I saw the film in a cinema, and in a nice 35mm print as well. I am happy to see that Sergio Leone's inventive directing still stands the test of time, and the editing is just mind-blowing. Of course, the score by Ennio Morricone is what really connects it all together into an unforgettable experience. Did you see the three hour cut or the two hour forty minutes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Actually, it was the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 18 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Did you see the three hour cut or the two hour forty minutes? It was the three hour version, restored in 2003. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 8 hours ago, KK said: Right. That was a general throwaway term to describe these kind of films broadly, and hardly my point. I still don't understand why a film that's primarily interested in Lincoln's motivations and inner conflicts during the end of the Civil War needs to dramatize battles to justify its existence. Isn't that just pointless window dressing? What does it add? I mean at the end of the day, the film is about Lincoln more than the Civil War. I don't know about you freaks but personally I've always been disappointed Schindler's List doesn't end with Oskar going on the Eastern Front and turning on the nazis, killing all of them with oneliners like "Guess what? You're off my list". So pretentious. SteveMc, Jurassic Shark, KK and 3 others 1 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 That would make a great sequel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Schindler's Revenge Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Holko said: I don't know about you freaks but personally I've always been disappointed Schindler's List doesn't end with Oskar going on the Eastern Front and turning on the nazis, killing all of them with oneliners like "Guess what? You're off my list". So pretentious. *said in various scenarios such as holding a Nazi by the neck over a tall ledge* "Sorry to see you Goethe." *lets go* "Power is when we have every justification to kill, and we don't...unfortunately for you, I'm very weak." *pulls trigger* Jurassic Shark, SteveMc and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Holko 9,526 Posted August 19, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2020 Then of course the grand finale when he drops a hydrogen bomb on Berlin. SteveMc, Jurassic Shark and Biodome 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Schindler’s List is different. It’s not even a movie, to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 "For every cigarette I smoke, you smoke half. So smoke one of these." *lights stick of dynamite, shoves it in Nazi's coat then kicks him into an oven chamber.* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 This gem writes itself! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biodome 714 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 "I could have done more... Hmmm, well, I guess I could still do more... Oh yeah, it's time to go on a rampage! Look at me, I'm fucking doing it!" Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Schindler's List 2: More Doing Biodome 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Fyi I was a bit disappointed the film ignored his role as a double agent, feeding intelligence to the Allies. I read somewhere that SS filmed the entire book- including the spy stuff- and planned to produce a multi-part mini- series . Alas, none of it happened. Not even deleted scenes.😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I guess he could still make that mini-series! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Schindler's List 2: More Doing SCHINDLERS LIST TWO: The Appendix Just now, Jurassic Shark said: I guess he could still make that mini-series! Would have...could have.. Not. Gonna. Happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 2 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Would have...could have.. Not. Gonna. Happen I mean if he's got it all on film, it's just to edit it together! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 23 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Schindler's List 2: More Doing How about "Schindler's Kill List"? Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 24 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: I read somewhere that SS filmed the entire book - including the spy stuff - and planned to produce a multi - part mini - series . Alas, none of it happened. Not even deleted scenes.😞 The only SCHINDLER'S LIST deleted scene that I know of, is where Schindler and Goethe play cards for the latter's maid. SS cut it because he felt it was too much like THE CINCINNATI KID. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Actually, the sequel to Schindler's List was always Schindler's List II: Back to the Ghetto. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 "Please win for me, Schindler! You can do it, babe!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 42 minutes ago, Quintus said: Actually, the sequel to Schindler's List was always Schindler's List II: Back to the Ghetto. "He who puts a cap in one ass puts a cap in the world's ass entire." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sweeping Strings 2,363 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Fright Night (1985) - horror comedy in which a high-schooler (a fan of the titular cheesy TV show hosted by ex-movie 'vampire hunter' Peter Vincent, a great turn by Roddy McDowall) becomes convinced that his new next-door neighbour is a bloodsucker and enlists Vincent's help to tackle him. A bit of silly fun, of which a rewatch made me happily nostalgic for the days of trying to convince the guy in the video store that you were of a sufficient age to rent the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I've watched the original Indiana Jones trilogy and now I was thinking of giving a 4th - I think - chance to Crystal skull but I don't know... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 Better throw it in the bin right now - and put it on fire to make sure you can't change your mind. filmmusic 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,829 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 7 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Better throw it in the bin right now - and put it on fire to make sure you can't change your mind. I decided to go with Ponyo on the Cliff. (talk about a 180 degree turn). I don't like it as much as other Ghibli films, but I love the animation and the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 I remember when SS made entertaining films. Its been a long time. He needs to retire. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted August 19, 2020 Share Posted August 19, 2020 3 hours ago, filmmusic said: I decided to go with Ponyo on the Cliff. (talk about a 180 degree turn). I don't like it as much as other Ghibli films, but I love the animation and the music. I really liked it the FIRST time I watched. Second time I thought it was really lame. I think that is because the visual splendor ( and music) impressed me. When I rewatched, I realized the story was really WEAK! (same reaction to AVATAR) BTW I have the soundtrack to PONYO. Sale or trade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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