gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Still, I believe younger audiences have a stronger connection to Zimmer's theme than to Williams'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Cool and hip things have very short shelf lives, BloodBoal.What is the Hans Zimmer sound? It is the shell suit of movie music. John Williams on the other hand is the denim jeans of film music. Timeless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 9, 2013 Share Posted May 9, 2013 Ah shell suits. Love them.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 He was tired of doing the power anthem/male chorus approach to music and wanted to explore more experimental soundscape methods instead.Because "power anthem/male chorus approach" and "more experimental soundscape methods" are the only two options available...? No, he simply moved from one style to another. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted May 10, 2013 Share Posted May 10, 2013 I'm not sure of that.Most of the Shirley Walker YT posts actually get positive feedback on the videos, so not all YouTubers are mindless idiots. But those videos don't get the fraction of views Zimmer videos enjoy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hook1991 10 Posted May 11, 2013 Share Posted May 11, 2013 I wonder if this is going to be most of the score if not all... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Cool and hip things have very short shelf lives, BloodBoal.What is the Hans Zimmer sound? It is the shell suit of movie music. John Williams on the other hand is the denim jeans of film music. Timeless.That even kind of looks like a young Hans Zimmer with hair in the sheel suit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 If Zimmer decided to use Williams' theme, would he replace the orchestra with hard drives?.... Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 12, 2013 Share Posted May 12, 2013 Of course. You can't forget your roots!Sadly I haven't posted there as much as I used to due to my lack of time. But I'll get that fixed soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/man-of-steel-composer-hans-zimmer-celebrates-mankind-on-dna-20130513 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Now i know how the pure, true and honest heartland people of America sound. Thanks, Hans. Delorean90 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 At last, we got 'em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 Now i know how the pure, true and honest heartland people of America sound. Thanks, Hans.I can detect ZERO relation between the words and that music. Are they certain that IS the track that Mr. Zimmer was referring to? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Delorean90 42 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 My suspicion is that he was talking about a general approach/philosophy, and they thought, "Well, that describes the score, so that's what to listen for in this complete track!" It's gotta be a mistake. The trailer music sounds much more like it's supposed to relate to that description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 And the bullshitting about Zimmer's so-called "philosophy" in his most recent dull effort begins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 "I wanted the epic sound of the fields and farms stretching past the horizon, of the wind humming in the telephone wires."You don't always get what you want... hmmm.And the bullshitting about Zimmer's so-called "philosophy" in his most recent dull effort begins.That. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 I'm sorry, but what Zimmer describes there is everything his music isn't, and Williams' was. How you can get the idea that MoS's droning has anything to do with horizons and farms and wind blowing and the struggle of a character is, frankly, beyond mortal comprehension.Zimmer's mindmasturbation at its best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Damien F 1,742 Posted May 13, 2013 Share Posted May 13, 2013 And the bullshitting about Zimmer's so-called "philosophy" in his most recent dull effort begins.Sadly these days Zimmer is far more adept at coming up with bullshit than a decent intelligent score.Of course, I'll reserve judgement until I hear the score in the movie but that track just sounds like another tired extension of the Inception/Batman sound which is as far removed from "the fields and farms of America's heartland" as you can get. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Ok...so I decided I don't hate the trailer musicThis is as close to a compliment Zimmer is getting from me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Never a fan of some of his early work or stuff like "Up Is Down?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 155 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 The main theme reminds me of elfman's milk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Never a fan of some of his early work or stuff like "Up Is Down?"Wasn't that a Henry Jackman piece? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Up is Down is good fun, as is much of At World's End. Hard to tell whether Zimmer wrote it.Unfortunately it seems that directors aren't asking him for that brighter material any more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted May 22, 2013 Author Share Posted May 22, 2013 Amazon's listing for the Vinyl has a giant picture of the drum circlehttp://www.amazon.com/dp/B00CP4GSGOI wonder if any live instruments were used besides drums? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 A piano can be heard in this sample. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Up is Down is good fun, as is much of At World's End. Hard to tell whether Zimmer wrote it.Oh the theme is by Hans alright. But the "Up is Down" cue in particular was done by Jackman (I believe) using Zimmer's theme, if I'm not mistaken.But yeah, it's a great piece Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Henry Jackman is only one of the many composers who worked on that cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Jackman was responsible for it's orchestration, he didn't write it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 You mean he merely copied the score for someone to play it or that he participated in the writing making decisions on orchestration, harmony, etc?So how many people wrote Up is Down? There must be a list somewhere. I like my tracks correctly tagged. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jonesy 55 Posted May 22, 2013 Share Posted May 22, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gkgyver 1,645 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Great, more simplistic piano rambling and a power anthem that couldn't be less interesting.If anything, I'm reminded of one of Powell's X-Men 3 themes, the one where he emulates John Barry.A piano can be heard in this sample.But you know there are sampled pianos out there, right?Jackman was responsible for it's orchestration, he didn't write it.You mean he merely copied the score for someone to play it or that he participated in the writing making decisions on orchestration, harmony, etc?So how many people wrote Up is Down? There must be a list somewhere. I like my tracks correctly tagged.God, I hate this fucking mishmash of a dozens composers doing a single cue. What is the goddamn use? Is anyone making one step forward in their development because of that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 You mean he merely copied the score for someone to play it or that he participated in the writing making decisions on orchestration, harmony, etc?So how many people wrote Up is Down? There must be a list somewhere. I like my tracks correctly tagged.No there is no specific list unless you can get your hands on the sheet music for a cue-by-cue breakdown. Even then it's not accurate as Zimmer credits people on the sheet music that didn't actually write music.From what I know, it was Jackman's idea to make it a jig of sorts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 That main theme is such a 'static' theme... I sort of like it (it's memorable) but it's still a power anthem that could easily be sung to, and the heavy and droning orchestration does it no favours.It also sounds no different from anything Zimmer delivered in Inception/TKD/TDKR/Sherlock.God, I hate this fucking mishmash of a dozens composers doing a single cue. What is the goddamn use? Is anyone making one step forward in their development because of that?My bigger problem is using multiple additional composers, which doesn't give one guy the chance to make a cohesive, developed score.IMO, time constraints are the only reason to use as many additional composers as Zimmer does (I know others probably do it too, but no one seems as proud as Zimmer does at outsourcing the work - I don't think it's anything to be proud of). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 The future, Mr. Gittes, the future! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I love it!Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I love it!KarolI try to like it but am failing miserably. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brónach 1,302 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I like it until 1:39 or so.The final part I find unlistenable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 None of these cllips play in my country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I love it!KarolI try to like it but am failing miserably.I can't even remember what Williams' theme sounded like. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Who? crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,837 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 I love it!KarolI try to like it but am failing miserably.I can't even remember what Williams' theme sounded like. KarolI still can't undestand if you're kidding or not! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,370 Posted May 23, 2013 Author Share Posted May 23, 2013 Dude, he's kidding. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted May 23, 2013 Share Posted May 23, 2013 Or I'm converted into Neo-Zimmerism.Nah, it's not the most terrible thing I've ever heard.Does it count as praise?Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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