bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said: What's wrong with Super 35?? Cuts off the heads and most importantly. The Feet!😡 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Not if the image is composed properly! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 I watch the Oscars every year! I mean, I'm not going to be sitting there with rapt attention and total focus, I'll be on my phone and stuff, but it's the closest thing is film fans have to a Superbowl I've seen most of the big nominees this year too which is nice and helps make it more enjoyable to watch bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 Having watched a preview stream of In the Heights yesterday, which was bloody marvellous, it’ll be interesting to see how West Side Story compares. Appreciate they aren’t 100% comparable but given that they are both set in New York amongst the Latino community and feature contemporary musical styles (for their respective periods), there’s enough there. I have to admit that I never massively loved West Side Story to be honest. The film in particular always felt kinda long, especially during the second half. But I’ll be interested to see what Spielberg does with it but it’ll have to do a lot to beat the excitement and energy of In the Heights. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 24, 2021 Share Posted April 24, 2021 7 hours ago, Jay said: I watch the Oscars every year! I mean, I'm not going to be sitting there with rapt attention and total focus, I'll be on my phone and stuff, but it's the closest thing is film fans have to a Superbowl I've seen most of the big nominees this year too which is nice and helps make it more enjoyable to watch I've been watching them every year as well, but in 2019 at the latest, the Academy has noticably shown us how little relevance and expertise they have. In fact, it seems like it's becoming less and less each year. Last year was a fest of boredom with Parasite being the Academy's pretense of why they still are of any interest for international cinema. Simply the fact, that Tenet isn't nominated for any major categories is proof of how retarded the people in the jury and how antiquated their criteria for identifying a good movie are. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Those that watch it secretly believe in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Everybody here hated TENET Haven't seen it. Love to see CHI7 win but it doesn't have sufficient diversity. 😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Farrk the sheila in this movie twits like a nutjob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 I didn't hate Tenet, but then again, I had very low expectations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 45 minutes ago, bruce marshall said: Everybody here hated TENET I knew, I wouldn't make any friends here, when praising the latest Nolan movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: I knew, I wouldn't make any friends here, when praising the latest Nolan movie. Oh yeah. Btw I love Nolan for the most part. I'll see TENET eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 hours ago, Brundlefly said: I've been watching them every year as well, but in 2019 at the latest, the Academy has noticably shown us how little relevance and expertise they have. In fact, it seems like it's becoming less and less each year. Last year was a fest of boredom with Parasite being the Academy's pretense of why they still are of any interest for international cinema. Simply the fact, that Tenet isn't nominated for any major categories is proof of how retarded the people in the jury and how antiquated their criteria for identifying a good movie are. Last year's ceremony was indeed a bore. But I will be watching tomorrow nonetheless, in the spirit of tradition and having a day to just indulge in celebrating movies. And Tenet not being nominated in most categories is one of the rarer instances of how sensible the jury and their criteria are for identifying good movies, if anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 10 minutes ago, KK said: And Tenet not being nominated in most categories is one of the rarer instances of how sensible the jury and their criteria are for identifying good movies, if anything. Why sensible? On the surface, Tenet is one of those movies they usually just don't nominate. I can safely say that no closer look at this future classic was taken in order to decide that it is in fact not qualified for best picture. The Academy is just prejudiced as fuck. Most of the best picture nominees are the sign of a growing pathological affection for realism in movies, whereas a plane crashing into an airport automaticly has to be cinematic rubbish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Nolan would have lost anyway. Those twits wouldn't know great directing if it bit the on the ass ( see: DUNKIRK) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Tenet is symbolic for trying to save the theaters in difficult times, but I doubt the movie itself touched the heart of the jury. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Tennent was shit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, Unlucky Bastard said: Tennent was shit One of Polanski's worst films! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Unlucky Bastard said: Tennent was shit That's not a palindrome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 All the Best Picture nominees this year were better than Tenet (even the dull-as-dishwater Sorkin flick). This is no classic. And Nolan's films have gotten plenty of recognition by the Academy and he'll land his Oscar win eventually. Let's not paint him as some victim. He's the current king of Hollywood...not some undiscovered genius. 10 minutes ago, Brundlefly said: On the surface, Tenet is one of those movies they usually just don't nominate. I can safely say that no closer look at this future classic was taken in order to decide that it is in fact not qualified for best picture. Ever since they expanded the Best Picture list to 10-ish films, a big budget tentpole picture like Tenet gets nominated every year. This year being the only exception, because no major blockbusters were really released. And Tenet was shite. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Adam Wingard is the King of Hollywood. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted April 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2021 Tenet was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've had the misfortune of watching. What a miserable, miserable experience. Two hours of sitting there saying, "huh?" and "what did they say?" while watching a bunch of actors mumble their way through incomprehensible dialogue and atrocious accents, drowned out by excruciatingly loud music and sound effects. Holko, toothless and Edmilson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 My friend I saw it with insisted I was a dum-dum for not getting it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Tenet was quite bad, and I generally like Nolan movies. He should've instead make a sequel for Inception. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Parasite >>> Tenet (which I haven't even seen) Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 6 hours ago, Edmilson said: Tenet was quite bad, and I generally like Nolan movies. He should've instead make a sequel for Inception. I'm pretty sure I won't like TENET because I never like Nolan's ' mind-twister puzzle films'. INCEPTION INTERSTELLAR PRESTIGE MEMENTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Nice to see Leonard Bernstein and Stephen Sondheim getting credited twice. For some reason. And in a different order each time. For some reason. And Jerome Robbins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2021 The first credit is part of a multi-line crediting for the original play, the second is for their music being in this film Here's a bigger version because I couldn't read the one you posted A lot of things about this poster are dumb Why isn't David Newman credited at all? Sure, he's just adapting Bernstein's music, but Kushner gets a screenplay credit Secondly, why aren't any actors credited? That has got to be a response to the Ansel Elgort controversy no? And does it really have to credit 4 executive producers and 3 regular producers yet not Kamiński, Kahn, or Newman? What the hell Disney Will, TSMefford and Holko 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 11 hours ago, crumbs said: Tenet was one of the biggest pieces of shit I've had the misfortune of watching. What a miserable, miserable experience. Two hours of sitting there saying, "huh?" and "what did they say?" while watching a bunch of actors mumble their way through incomprehensible dialogue and atrocious accents, drowned out by excruciatingly loud music and sound effects. Maybe Tenet is a movie from the future and Nolan will invert its reels and send them to his younger self. That would also explain, why it seems so out of this time and leave people behind. As I said, it's gonna be a classic by the time it is being produced. bruce marshall and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 December?!😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 On 4/24/2021 at 8:45 AM, Jay said: I watch the Oscars every year! I mean, I'm not going to be sitting there with rapt attention and total focus, I'll be on my phone and stuff, but it's the closest thing is film fans have to a Superbowl I've seen most of the big nominees this year too which is nice and helps make it more enjoyable to watch I find myself paying less attention each year. Dunno if it's just me getting older and focusing on other things, but I have no plans to watch this year. And I don't believe I've watched an Oscar telecast in the past 3 years. Have no idea who is even nominated, or what worthy films are even out there. I've only seen one new film since 2019. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Most of the best movies of the year weren't nominated anyway, but from the ones that were, News of the World, Greyhound, Soul, and Sound of Metal are well worth seeing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Ollie said: Have no idea who is even nominated, or what worthy films are even out there. I've only seen one new film since 2019. You should see Parasite, last year's Best Picture winner. It's an excellent film. Bellosh 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The last BP winner that I personally really loved was Spotlight. TSMefford and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 34 minutes ago, Jay said: Secondly, why aren't any actors credited? That has got to be a response to the Ansel Elgort controversy no? That was my first thought too. Probably trying to get more people to watch the trailer who may not realize right away that he's in this, even though it's pretty easy to figure that out. Once the trailer is out though it will be silly to try and pretend that he's not in it. Unless they have somehow reshot his role and are trying to keep secret who the new lead is, but I highly doubt that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 37 minutes ago, Jay said: What the hell Disney The Mouse has disappeared up its own arse. Everyone knows that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The poster dropping on the internet today has nothing to do with hyping up the trailer drop tonight, this is going to be the poster hung up in cinemas and stuff too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted April 25, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted April 25, 2021 David Newman is an enormous oversight. It is a fucking musical. You are surely going to credit the arranger. It is not a copy paste job. It is essentially the equivalent of scoring a movie with existing movie but very carefully. He's probably the 3rd most important contributor to the movie after Spielberg and Kushner. Actors I can understand. Honestly, almost none are well known to the public. The movie will be sold on the brand of Spielberg/Kushner and the fame of the musical. The actors could be anybody and don't need to be credited per se. There are zero big names in there in primary roles. TSMefford, Will, Edmilson and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, Jay said: The poster dropping on the internet today has nothing to do with hyping up the trailer drop tonight, this is going to be the poster hung up in cinemas and stuff too While that is true, the fact that it's released before the trailer drops makes me think it was purposefully removed to try and pretend a little longer. The poster itself isn't meant to hype the trailer, but is part of the hype that leads up to the trailer is what I meant. That being said, I bet they will continue to try and promote him as little as possible, which is kind of hard to do when he's the male lead in the film. I don't expect to see him in any press tours for sure. I do wonder if they would have actually reshot the film, if it weren't for COVID-19. Probably not, considering again, he's the lead and that would basically mean reshooting nearly the entire thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The poster does contain one actor's name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 2 minutes ago, Naïve Old Fart said: The poster does contain one actor's name. Whose name is that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 The first producer listed (Rita Moreno) played Anita in the '61 film {and plays Valentina in this film} Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TSMefford 1,509 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Just now, Jay said: The first producer listed (Rita Moreno) played Anita in the '61 film Oh well yes, but she's not listed as an actor here. I don't count that. Lol. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,284 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 53 minutes ago, Jay said: The first credit is for their music being in this film, the second is a continuation of crediting that starts with Robbins credit for the original play Here's a bigger version because I couldn't read the one you posted A lot of things about this poster are dumb Why isn't David Newman credited at all? Sure, he's just adapting Bernstein's music, but Kushner gets a screenplay credit Secondly, why aren't any actors credited? That has got to be a response to the Ansel Elgort controversy no? And does it really have to credit 4 executive producers and 3 regular producers yet not Kamiński, Kahn, or Newman? What the hell Disney That makes sense (and what me and my other half concluded on further thought) but I bet I won’t be the only person who thinks it looks like a mistake or, if it’s explained to them, thinks it’s a bat shit crazy way to do the credits especially since no other film version of a stage show has credits like that. Good call on David Newman bring omitted although that surprises me less. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 But if the second credits for Bernstein and Sondheim are for the "stage play" (i.e. the stage musical?), what are the first credits for? The film? Wasn't Bernstein barely involved with that? Quoting Wikipedia: Quote Leonard Bernstein was displeased with the orchestration for the movie, which was the work of Sid Ramin and Irwin Kostal, who had orchestrated the original Broadway production. That show had been orchestrated for roughly 30 musicians; for the movie, United Artists allowed them triple that, including six saxophone parts, eight trumpets, five pianos and five xylophones.[37] Bernstein found it "overbearing and lacking in texture and subtlety."[3] If the first credits are indeed for the film version and Ramin and Kostal are not credited, that's at least consistent with Newman not getting a credit either, isn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 So if I am reading the credits right - they are in 3 blocks 1. Producers & Executive Producers 2. 1 major technical credit - Choreography - so they list the original stage choreographer and the 2021 chorographer. 3. Then comes the adapted from credit which has 4 pieces - it is adapted from the stage play so who wrote the play, who wrote the music, who wrote lyrics and who directed the stage play. 4. The comes the actual credits for 2021 movie - so they are crediting the lyricist of the 2021 film, the composer of the 2021 film, the writer and the director. This should tell us that the score perhaps is so completely untouched that they decided to just credit Music by Bernstein and did not bother to credit Newman. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 " Wake us when the film starts" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: But if the second credits for Bernstein and Sondheim are for the "stage play" (i.e. the stage musical?), what are the first credits for? The film? Wasn't Bernstein barely involved with that? Quoting Wikipedia: If the first credits are indeed for the film version and Ramin and Kostal are not credited, that's at least consistent with Newman not getting a credit either, isn't it? For this film, not the old film Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 This has to be the biggest controversy a movie poster has caused here at the forum... lmao Bellosh and TSMefford 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 Never heard of this Answell bloke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted April 25, 2021 Share Posted April 25, 2021 18 hours ago, Jay said: For this film, not the old film I find it really confusing. Especially since I didn't see the comma in "Based on the stage play, book by" at first and couldn't make sense of it, and also thought the first Bernstein & Sondheim credits in line 4 were grouped with "Play conceived…" for Robbins, so their credits in the fifth line must be for this film or the original film. It's still not clear to me, but assuming that there is no "new" credit for *this* film because the music isn't much changed from the Wise version, I guess my point still stands: If Bernstein gets full credit for that, despite barely being involved, by the same logic he'd get credit for the new version, without mentioning Newman. TSMefford 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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