Jay 38,660 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yea that's basically confirmation that Goldwasser's producing and its digital only, which likely means the 4 1/2 hour comment was about this too. That should mean most scores will be complete or close to it Manakin Skywalker and enderdrag64 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 All of the episodes combined are approx. 12 hours total, so if, say, 50% of that is scored, there's be around 6 hours of music total (est.) So even if it's not complete, that is damn near close! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I remember some episodes this season having very little score in them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,166 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 No CD? seriously? Come on. All this talk of Seth being a traditionalist and his incredibly classic and traditional filmmaking on the Orville, especially with the music appreciation, and then he goes and releases a score without physical media?! I'm sick of this destruction of the physical world. Everything doesn't bloody exist anymore. No doubt we'll never get Season 3 on DVD either because of damm streaming services. BULLSH*T igger6, Yavar Moradi and Jurassic Shark 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,845 Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 59 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: No CD? seriously? Come on. 🙄 I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re just really uninformed, and inform you: THE FIRST TWO VOLUMES SOLD TERRIBLY FOR LA-LA LAND. Like, they didn’t break even. They LOST MONEY. They discounted that packed two CD set to $10 ($5 a disc) and they’re still sitting on a bunch of copies. The first season sold so poorly they said they weren’t going to release the second season for the longest time. But they loved the show and its score so much that they changed their minds and went ahead anyway and did it, and then lost a bunch of money again for their trouble. Again after hugely discounting they’re sitting on a ton of copies. So please try to realize in the real world, being serious is exactly what they are doing. A CD release is apparently non-viable because of US film music fans just not supporting the releases in great enough numbers. 59 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: All this talk of Seth being a traditionalist and his incredibly classic and traditional filmmaking on the Orville, especially with the music appreciation, and then he goes and releases a score without physical media?! What on EARTH is the connection between using classic and traditional filmmaking techniques on The Orville, and insisting on putting out a score release on a plastic disc? The two are entirely unconnected, logically speaking, but you’re trying to make Seth out to be some sort of hypocrite because no label is willing to lose a boatload of money on a physical season 3 score release? 59 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I'm sick of this destruction of the physical world. Everything doesn't bloody exist anymore. Of course it exists. A digital lossless download purchase would still have the music in the same quality as CD (or possibly better!), you would still OWN it (unlike if you’re streaming it)… you just wouldn’t be holding a plastic CD in your hands. And yeah, I’d like to see a nice third spine on my shelf and have season 3 side by side with the first two seasons’ music as well. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t EXIST. It will exist as a musical release JUST as much as if a CD was produced… in fact possibly even *more* of it will exist because it sounds like it’ll be 4.5 hours worth which I doubt would be the case if some film music label was unwise enough to be putting this out on CD again (at 4CDs they’d be losing even MORE boatloads of money). You know CDs themselves just contain the same lossless audio files, right? They’re just a different delivery method to the consumer, born long before the internet. But the music itself is just as “physical” (or not) either way, and you own it just as much. 59 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: No doubt we'll never get Season 3 on DVD either because of damm streaming services. “damm streaming services” (specifically Hulu) are literally the only reason you HAVE a season 3 of The Orville. But no, why don’t you bitch at them for something that hasn’t even happened yet. DVD sales of the show are an entirely different matter from CD sales of the music. And if a season 3 DVD doesn’t come you can bet it’s because people didn’t buy the first two seasons that way. And by the way, the DVD releases look like shit compared to even streaming versions of the episodes (which are in HD). Blu-ray is what you should be complaining about. Yavar igger6, HunterTech, Dr. Know and 5 others 6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,563 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 3 hours ago, Yavar Moradi said: 🙄 I’ll give you the benefit of the doubt that you’re just really uninformed, and inform you: THE FIRST TWO VOLUMES SOLD TERRIBLY FOR LA-LA LAND. Like, they didn’t break even. They LOST MONEY. They discounted that packed two CD set to $10 ($5 a disc) and they’re still sitting on a bunch of copies. The first season sold so poorly they said they weren’t going to release the second season for the longest time. But they loved the show and its score so much that they changed their minds and went ahead anyway and did it, and then lost a bunch of money again for their trouble. Again after hugely discounting they’re sitting on a ton of copies. So please try to realize in the real world, being serious is exactly what they are doing. A CD release is apparently non-viable because of US film music fans just not supporting the releases in great enough numbers. What on EARTH is the connection between using classic and traditional filmmaking techniques on The Orville, and insisting on putting out a score release on a plastic disc? The two are entirely unconnected, logically speaking, but you’re trying to make Seth out to be some sort of hypocrite because no label is willing to lose a boatload of money on a physical season 3 score release? Of course it exists. A digital lossless download purchase would still have the music in the same quality as CD (or possibly better!), you would still OWN it (unlike if you’re streaming it)… you just wouldn’t be holding a plastic CD in your hands. And yeah, I’d like to see a nice third spine on my shelf and have season 3 side by side with the first two seasons’ music as well. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t EXIST. It will exist as a musical release JUST as much as if a CD was produced… in fact possibly even *more* of it will exist because it sounds like it’ll be 4.5 hours worth which I doubt would be the case if some film music label was unwise enough to be putting this out on CD again (at 4CDs they’d be losing even MORE boatloads of money). You know CDs themselves just contain the same lossless audio files, right? They’re just a different delivery method to the consumer, born long before the internet. But the music itself is just as “physical” (or not) either way, and you own it just as much. “damm streaming services” (specifically Hulu) are literally the only reason you HAVE a season 3 of The Orville. But no, why don’t you bitch at them for something that hasn’t even happened yet. DVD sales of the show are an entirely different matter from CD sales of the music. And if a season 3 DVD doesn’t come you can bet it’s because people didn’t buy the first two seasons that way. And by the way, the DVD releases look like shit compared to even streaming versions of the episodes (which are in HD). Blu-ray is what you should be complaining about. Yavar Round of applause! Perfect response. If this were the 90s we might not even get any kind of release or only get 30 minutes... even 2 hours (like for the seasons 1 and 2) digitally would be a terrific release, any more is just a bonus really. Can't wait! enderdrag64 and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,166 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Everything I said makes sense. Streaming services are the death of physical media because people have been trained to not want to own physical copies anymore, as it's all on a platform, thus things are forced to go onto it or die, because their current home is killed by streaming, and therefore they are never released for people to own. My argument is not directly at the non-release of this one score. I didn't know they lost money. So that is understandable. But my argument is at the reason why they lost money. And that is because of the state of media release in general. It's an overall complaint at this state we are in, where people are being conditioned to not physically own anything anymore. Everything is slowly disappearing to places where you wont own anything and a company can just change and take back what they want, even if you bought it. Soon we will have no DVD's, CD's etc and it'll all be digital purchase that they will probably stop you from downloading, so you have to listen to it on THEIR platform and they can change or remove it at will. That has already happened with streaming. I have to have netflix if I want to watch Stranger Things for example, and watch it exclusively on there. I can never own my own copy. That is what makes me mad. igger6 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 642 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Yeah, but that's also ignoring the reality that everyone avoids talking about with media these days. While there is an argument about physical media and being able to keep the thing when stores go down, or just when a piece of media is removed from a download or streaming service, we all know that EVERYTHING from movies, music, TV, games, etc are all way more accessible than they've ever been. Even when they're taken down from services. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,138 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Also, was The Orville ever gonna be that big a seller if this was a market that leaned on physical media above all else? The only way to know for sure is if they risked doing a limited LP run, as otherwise this is maybe not the property to be making these arguments about if even Star Trek can struggle to sell some of their music releases (as far as I am aware). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 36 minutes ago, leeallen01 said: I have to have netflix if I want to watch Stranger Things for example, and watch it exclusively on there. I can never own my own copy. Everytime I go to Target I see Stranger Things blu rays for sale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post igger6 912 Posted January 14, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2023 1 hour ago, Jay said: Everytime I go to Target I see Stranger Things blu rays for sale. That’s a pretty glaring exception, though, as it’s far and away the most successful streaming property of all time. By and large, @leeallen01is right; Netflix and the other services don’t do physical media releases. And while we are certainly living in the golden age of a certain kind of media availability (streaming whenever you want, as long as you’re paying for an active subscription to whatever service currently has the rights to stream that property), that’s cold comfort to, say, Looney Tunes fans, who just lost access to hundreds of shorts previously on HBO Max that never made it to Blu-Ray—access they would retain if they’d paid a one-time fee for a box of discs. Myself, I would prefer a world where all content was always available a la carte, to rent or own (preferably physically, but either way). I think it’s better for quality control and it allows consumers to express their preferences in a more granular way. If I liked, say, the early phases of the MCU, I could choose to pay whatever price Disney sets for permanent offline access to them as long as I have electricity and a functioning media player. Then my ability to watch them is only subject to my whim—not my wifi, the functionality of a particular rightsholder’s website or viewing app, or the corporate chess games that often volley properties from service to service a month at a time. If I’m trying something new, I can pay a smaller price to rent it and then maybe buy it later for more money if I like it enough. What I object to is the framework in which I must be a member in good standing of Ecosystem X in order to ever have access to the majority of new original content. Even if I start a streaming subscription to watch a particular show and cancel when I’m done, I have no fiscal way of showing my love for that show and retaining access to it. I have to keep shoveling a whole streaming service’s worth of money toward its owner. That’s my beef. And the valid fact that there’s tons more content now doesn’t excuse the (in my view) inferior landscape of accessing it. It’s not the labels’ fault; it’s a complex mix of the studios’ profit motive and consumers’ willingness to tolerate what some of us view as an inferior viewing/buying experience. I don’t think there’s an easy villain here, but I lament the situation all the same. leeallen01, Holko and enderdrag64 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,166 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 5 hours ago, Jay said: Everytime I go to Target I see Stranger Things blu rays for sale. I've never seen it anywhere. Only online weird illegal copies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 I'll take a picture next time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted January 14, 2023 Share Posted January 14, 2023 Season 1 and 2 are being sold on Blu-ray and 4K according to Bluray.com, but only those two seasons. https://www.blu-ray.com/search/?quicksearch=1&quicksearch_country=US&quicksearch_keyword=stranger+things§ion=bluraymovies enderdrag64 and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Nemesis 254 Posted January 15, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted January 15, 2023 Just finished watching Season 3 here in Switzerland. Just wow! There where many musically references to John Williams, that was fun too! Manakin Skywalker, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, karelm and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dave 224 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 Checking AppleMusic NZ everyday because it could be there... but then it isn't... Dr. Know and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 I am sure we'll find out when it's coming via some official way before someone stumbles upon it on a music service unannounced Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted February 2, 2023 Share Posted February 2, 2023 Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Cerebral Cortex 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I'm verry happy that we are getting a release and that he does keep us updated. But I do want to point out again that I find it weird that the releases of all 3 seasons take so long and have so much secrecy around them. Does this have to do with it being multiple composers or with money? Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 "so much secrecy around them"? What makes The Orville different in terms of what we know before announcement compared to any other album? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 I might have formulated it wrong. I mean that all 3 scores take a very long time to get released, but we don't really know why that is. And when we do hear it gets released, we don't hear a date or when but it keeps being a big vague. I'm not upset about it and I'm very grateful that we are getting, as it now seems, a very long release. But I did wonder why with this show (and to be fair) some other shows with popular scores it takes a while for things to get released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 Yea it'd be interesting to learn more about these projects from the people who work on them JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,563 Posted February 6, 2023 Share Posted February 6, 2023 15 minutes ago, Jay said: Yea it'd be interesting to learn more about these projects from the people who work on them It does seem a strikingly different approach to those shows releasing full scores for each episode the same week it comes out. I guess every show has its own production schedule but I can’t believe the level of post production complexity for the Orville is on a materially different level than Rings of Power etc. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,451 Posted February 7, 2023 Share Posted February 7, 2023 That's great news. Hopefully he meant weeks as one or three weeks not like 52 weeks Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 It says next month!!!! Manakin Skywalker, Dr. Know, Andy and 4 others 5 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 Hopefully that means this Friday and not 5 Fridays from now Here's the text-free art by the way: https://press.hulu.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/the_orville-press-art-2x3-high-emphasis-tile-copy.jpg?fit=1440,2160 Manakin Skywalker, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, leeallen01 and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom Guernsey 2,563 Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 29 minutes ago, JNHFan2000 said: It says next month!!!! I think I speak for most of us here when I say... oh thank fuck for that. Raiders of the SoundtrArk, JNHFan2000, Manakin Skywalker and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted February 27, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 27, 2023 Definitely a Dan Goldwasser production like the others Raiders of the SoundtrArk, JNHFan2000 and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted February 27, 2023 Share Posted February 27, 2023 Yep he also commented on Joel's previous post and "answered" some questions. Very good news indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,451 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Finally! March will be hell of a month between this and probably Solo at Intrada Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nemesis 254 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Very good news! Hopefully "selections" means the full scores to all episodes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Music is now officially being copyrighted on YouTube! This usually starts happening within a week or less before a release Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Popular Post Share Posted February 28, 2023 Yavar Moradi, leeallen01, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 3 others 1 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Well, Friday is next month🤞🏼 Raiders of the SoundtrArk and Manakin Skywalker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 3 days from now in fact, if that is the correct Friday Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's coming out this Friday https://www.aha-music.com/3756d8742c309f70ef5ee1fded3340c5 Manakin Skywalker, Raiders of the SoundtrArk, Dr. Know and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 YES! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SilverTrumpet 642 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The music was SO good in season 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 The best television score of 2022! Dr. Know and Manakin Skywalker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 How does that website work exactly? Does it recognise stuff from the episodes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's another company's version of Shazam It identifies music playing in your browser, if that music is in their database. Obviously, only commercially released music is in their database. So, nothing from Orville season 3 would have been in their database, until Hollywood Records gave the new album to them. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 494 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 1977 and Manakin Skywalker 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leeallen01 2,166 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Words cannot describe how ready my ears are to listen and my brain is to explode. Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 My Friday just got better Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 3,393 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 It's been a while since I've been this excited for a release. It's next level. I think last time for me was Avengers: Endgame or The Rise Of Skywalker. I'm very ready!!! Dr. Know 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,660 Posted February 28, 2023 Share Posted February 28, 2023 Huh, this bit is in the Aha database for some reason Spoiler https://www.aha-music.com/386e399baa3da48a0c3f786a54f978ac JNHFan2000 and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 5,116 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 I'm going through every individual cue from every episode right now. So far it looks to be around 6-7 tracks per episode, or around 20-25 minutes on average per episode. Raiders of the SoundtrArk 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 345 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 The "You'll Never Walk Alone" cue is apparently called "Kelly Invites Topa," and is credited to Kaska (thought it was Cottee). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laserschwert 494 Posted March 1, 2023 Share Posted March 1, 2023 7 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said: I'm going through every individual cue from every episode right now. So far it looks to be around 6-7 tracks per episode, or around 20-25 minutes on average per episode. And for 10 episodes, that basically lines up with the rumored 4 hours of music. Manakin Skywalker and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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