Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Also, if anyone doesn't hear the similarity between the two clips I posted, maybe you don't hear music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Gatekeeping music, Stu - that's a good way to go about things. Still on my listen through the OST, Buck Takes the Lead is a highlight for sure. And in that track I do hear echos of Evolution and his third Dragon score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I saw this this afternoon, the score was wallpaper but that's not to say it wasn't effective, because parts were extremely uplifting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 17 hours ago, Arpy said: When is this out on CD? Powell spoke about it a bit on his FB: https://5catstudios.com/thecallofthewild crocodile, The Illustrious Jerry, Disco Stu and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Expected Intrada could still take a chance on a physical edition, presumably, if they are inclined Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 That would be great. I'll listen to it Spotify tonight. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Shame there's no physical version yet.. Wonderful score, a bit more reserved and contemplative than I was expecting. Which isn't a bad thing Edmilson and Disco Stu 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Middle-of-the-road. Very Dragon (and Kung Fu Panda, especially in its more trailer-ish pop cues). I like the folksiness of it, and, the quieter stuff but i did expect a more...mature, if you don't mind that dirty word...score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Definitely doesn't reach the heights of any of his Dragon scores (there are few that do), nor the second Kung-fu Panda score he did with Zimmer. I'd say it's right under Mars Needs Moms, and better than his Evolution score (though I love the action theme from Evolution, and it's one of the better themes he's ever written). If I had a tiered ranking for Powell's works, it'd be like this (in no order with tiers): Tier 1: Dragon (1, 2, 3), Solo, Chicken Run, Kung Fu Panda 2 Tier 2: Hubris, Mars Needs Moms, Call of the Wild, Pan, Evolution Tier 3: X-Men 3, Kung Fu Panda 1 Tier 4: Everything else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I like his Ice Age scores as well, and I love Ellie's theme from the second one. Pure Powell fun! Rio's main theme is pretty great as well: Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 His first 3 Bourne scores are pretty good too imo. Supremacy especially, lots of emotion in that one. Ultimatum suffers from temp tracking, but it's still exciting. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I definitely forgot he did the Ice Age movies. To be honest, I’ve avoided them because of the ridiculous short track lengths and mickey mousing. Not a fan of the Bourne scores. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 31 minutes ago, Fargo said: I definitely forgot he did the Ice Age movies. To be honest, I’ve avoided them because of the ridiculous short track lengths and mickey mousing. There's less of that than you might think. I'd give Age of the Dinosaurs a try sometime, if you're willing. There's a situation on the CD similar to Powell's X-Men: The Last Stand, where CD tracks run into each other and create longer continuous pieces of music (personally, I never like jumping into a track mid-music; it's very jarring...I'd just as soon they had long tracks). Listening to the full Call of the Wild album on YouTube right now... and LOVING it. Yavar Tydirium, The Illustrious Jerry and Fargo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Fargo said: Definitely doesn't reach the heights of any of his Dragon scores (there are few that do), nor the second Kung-fu Panda score he did with Zimmer. I'd say it's right under Mars Needs Moms, and better than his Evolution score (though I love the action theme from Evolution, and it's one of the better themes he's ever written). If I had a tiered ranking for Powell's works, it'd be like this (in no order with tiers): Tier 1: Dragon (1, 2, 3), Solo, Chicken Run, Kung Fu Panda 2 Tier 2: Hubris, Mars Needs Moms, Call of the Wild, Pan, Evolution Tier 3: X-Men 3, Kung Fu Panda 1 Tier 4: Everything else So you're implying that Ferdinand is overrated. Can't say I disagree! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Anthony 572 Posted February 21, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 21, 2020 Here's a significantly better cover courtesy of Ant over at FSM. Edmilson, Yavar Moradi and Pieter Boelen 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Fargo said: I definitely forgot he did the Ice Age movies. To be honest, I’ve avoided them because of the ridiculous short track lengths and mickey mousing. Ice Age 2 and 3 are much more inventive scores, i remember being quite roused by that 7-minute end title. And they also don't sound as homogenized as CotW. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 53 minutes ago, GiacchinoCues said: Here's a significantly better cover courtesy of Ant over at FSM. I'd just replace the "&" for an "AND". It's just me, but I'm not exactly a fan of that &, lol. Otherwise, great job! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 5 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I'd just replace the "&" for an "AND". It's just me, but I'm not exactly a fan of that &, lol. It's too French! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 I'm 2/3 through the album and it's a fun score; albeit not quite on the level of HTTYD. The main theme is rather nice, and it's stuck in my head by this point. Not the most original thing Powell's ever come up with, but I think it does the job. I think there's more than one motif going on, particularly in the first track - either that or the theme is longer form than first meets the ear. Woah, Buck Takes The Lead is awesome Tydirium and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 21, 2020 Share Posted February 21, 2020 Just listened to it for a second time. I guess I prefer the more emotional, moving parts on the second half over the action/adventure material. The choir writing is great, although it took me a little by surprise - wasn't expecting such epic choir on a (theoretically) smaller score (in comparison with Hidden World, for example). But the emotional material is pretty great! Reminded me a little of stuff like As Long As He's Safe and Once There Were Dragons, while the string writing on the (excellent) end titles suite reminded me of JNH, in a good way. I guess the two of them just wrote their respective pieces on the same rhythm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted February 22, 2020 Author Share Posted February 22, 2020 Full credit! Source: http://hans-zimmer.com/index.php?rub=disco&id=1808 Wake The Girls (2:37) John Powell Train North (4:02) John Powell Skagway, Alaska (2:31) John Powell Snowy Climb (1:25) John Powell, Paul Mounsey First Sledding Attempt (2:27) John Powell The Ghost Wolf Of Dreams (1:06) John Powell Joining The Team (2:59) John Powell, Batu Sener Ice Rescue (2:26) John Powell, Batu Sener Sometimes Nature's Cruel And Gods Fight (4:57) John Powell Buck Takes The Lead (4:54) John Powell, Batu Sener We Carry Love (3:02) John Powell, Batu Sener Couldn't Find The Words (2:22) John Powell, Paul Mounsey Overpacked Sled (2:31) John Powell, Paul Mounsey Newfangled Telegram (2:23) John Powell In My Bed? (2:54) John Powell Buck & Thornton's Big Adventure (4:36) John Powell, Batu Sener Finding Bears And Love In The Woods (2:57) John Powell They're All Gone (2:51) John Powell Rewilding (3:48) John Powell Animal Nature (2:34) John Powell Come Say Goodbye (2:09) John Powell What An Adventure (3:02) John Powell The Call Of The Wild (2:51) John Powell Quite disappointing that the highlight of the score such as "Buck takes the lead" and "joining the team" are not truly solo Powell. But its understandsable as those two tracks are like a combination of separate little tracks stitched together. So i guess Powell did the heavy part of the track, and the easy one to Sener. Nonetheless, im happy that this is mostly a solo Powell score Edmilson and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 What do you mean? It's still Powell! How do we know the cue wasn't 95% Powell and 5% Sener? I've always seen this as the lead composer writing most of it, with his collaborators helping out and getting credit. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 Saw the film today and have listened to the score almost 2x. I'd say it's a solid 4-star score; like others here seem to feel, I think it's not quite as good as the HTTYD and SOLO scores (and I'd personally put PAN up in that category too)... But still really good. There are a few tracks here that I'd say are instant favorites, which brings me to my next point: I'm really surprised that more people here aren't talking about how great "Sometimes Nature's Cruel and Gods Fight", is. It makes for a great companion piece to SOLO's "Marauders Arrive"; I'm loving this sort of dark choral writing from Powell as of late, and can't wait for more in the future. EDIT: Also, maybe someone else who has also seen the film can help me out, but I seem to recall "Sometimes Nature's Cruel and Gods Fight" being different in the film? I think there was maybe some great material in the film version that is not present on the album...(?) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Tydirium said: I'm really surprised that more people here aren't talking about how great "Sometimes Nature's Cruel and Gods Fight The Illustrious Jerry and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 you like music go big Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 12 hours ago, PrayodiBA said: Nonetheless, im happy that this is mostly a solo Powell score Actually, this is the most Solo Powell score: Bad jokes aside, I think it's interesting that on this one he apparently relied less o Batu and Mounsey than some of his other, more recent scores (Solo itself included). But, for people who have already watched the film, how much unreleased music does the OST have? I guess not much, because the movie is 100 minutes and the OST is 67 min, so maybe about 15 min of unreleased material? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 17 hours ago, Richard Penna said: The main theme is rather nice, and it's stuck in my head by this point. This film had a main theme? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 22, 2020 Share Posted February 22, 2020 1 hour ago, Quintus said: This film had a main theme? It was almost as good as A Dog’s Journey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 18 hours ago, Edmilson said: But, for people who have already watched the film, how much unreleased music does the OST have? I guess not much, because the movie is 100 minutes and the OST is 67 min, so maybe about 15 min of unreleased material? Minimal. In fact there were a few really short cues that I thought "I hope they don't take up album space". Every highlight I remembered is on the album, some potentially presented even better on it than in the film (the second half of Buck Takes The Lead is mostly inaudible in the movie, buried under SFX). Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 23, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 23, 2020 Be right back, spending the next 365 days listening to Buck Takes the Lead. Tydirium, Muad'Dib and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,012 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 On 2/22/2020 at 2:45 PM, Quintus said: This film had a main theme? It's in the film a lot. It reminds me of something but I can't quite put a finger on what it is. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Dogs, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 17 minutes ago, crocodile said: It's in the film a lot. It reminds me of something but I can't quite out a finger on what it is. Karol I didn't notice a single memorable melody throughout. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 26 minutes ago, crocodile said: It's in the film a lot. It reminds me of something but I can't quite out a finger on what it is. Karol Off the top of my head, it sounded like some kind of hybrid of the mother theme from HTTYD 2 and Kung Fu Panda. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 23, 2020 Share Posted February 23, 2020 Wonder if JW heard any of the score? Also, apparently this is Powell's new girlfriend, a classical singer.^ Her IG has a wealth of (mostly funny/cute) pictures with JP, for those curious. The Illustrious Jerry and Muad'Dib 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 15 hours ago, GiacchinoCues said: Minimal. In fact there were a few really short cues that I thought "I hope they don't take up album space". Every highlight I remembered is on the album, some potentially presented even better on it than in the film (the second half of Buck Takes The Lead is mostly inaudible in the movie, buried under SFX). This is great. I was having this little fear of some unreleased highlights, but thankfully the OST seems to be a great presentation of the score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 5 stars from Southall: http://www.movie-wave.net/the-call-of-the-wild/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrayodiBA 517 Posted February 24, 2020 Author Share Posted February 24, 2020 ANyway, there has been some discussion that this score is like John POwell mixtape, all powellism thrown in , and the themes being so familiar. With that said, this is what i found in regards to the similarity. Buck's theme ( main theme) The first part of the theme(?) does really remind me of a lot of tunes. ------ First heard in the first track: And scattered in many tracks after that, such as this: The 4-notes start ( well, actually the whole structure tbh) is similar to the beginning of Powell's PAN theme: And the next 4 notes heard like this: is also similar to this part from Alexandre Desplat's Lily Theme in Harry POtter ------ The second part of the theme(?), this is so familiar sounding that some of the statements are almost identical First heard in the first track: then to ( my favourite!) its majestic statement, such as this: Particularly this part is really similar to this part from Alexandre Desplat's theme from HP again: in fact, before HP, the whole structure of that theme has been used in Rango: which was actually kinda inspired by Powell's evolution theme, so it's full circle! Talking about Evolution, this part: and also this part: does really scream Evolution! that somwhow you wish the Evolution theme will eventually come out instead: This theme: HTTYD Extended Theme Well this is obvious: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony 572 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I hadn't noticed the similarities to Evolution, but you're right! That last set of clips (HHTYD extended theme) - it reminds me more of something from Horton Hears A Who or possibly Ice Age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 1:08-1:19 of "Rewilding" is pretty great! I've given the album a few listens so far, and every time I get to that moment my ears perk up. Always forget it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I suppose it shouldn't come as a surprise if the movie was temped with a load of previous Powell scores. I'm surprised Hancock hasn't been mentioned yet, particularly as its main theme has an Irish tinge to it. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 9 hours ago, GiacchinoCues said: I hadn't noticed the similarities to Evolution, but you're right! nice to know my posts get read /s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 The score is at least a step up from Ferdinand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bofur01 245 Posted February 24, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2020 JP posted a list of the themes and motifs in the score on FB: - Buck’s Tune [A + B]- Thornton’s Tune - Dog Team Tune - Working Tune [A + B] - Heroes Tune - Spitz’ Tune - Pious Tune - Black Wolf Motif - Working Riff Get to work, guys! Evanus, Tydirium and PrayodiBA 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 Spitz' Tune: (2:11) (1:25, 1:47, 2:47, 4:29) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 24, 2020 Share Posted February 24, 2020 I've listened to the score about 7 times through now - I feel comfortable saying I like it just as much as Powell's best scores - Dragon, Solo, etc. It really grew on me. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fommes 153 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 That theme is indeed quite reminiscent of Desplat's Lily's theme. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted February 25, 2020 Share Posted February 25, 2020 My current favourite moment is: Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PrayodiBA 517 Posted February 26, 2020 Author Popular Post Share Posted February 26, 2020 Theme Analysis I say this upfront, Powell is a storytelling genius! The way he creates themes just to represent a set of scenes, and how he composes and arranges it ( i mean who still writes 10 themes for movie?) And how he makes the themes feel obvious enough for audiences to easily follow the narrative without even seeing th emovie ( and for music nerd to analyse) So according to POwell: - Buck’s Tune [A + B]- Thornton’s Tune - Dog Team Tune - Working Tune [A + B] - Heroes Tune - Spitz’ Tune - Pious Tune - Black Wolf Motif - Working Riff We got Bucks theme and Dog team tune covered, so i try to cover the rest: Working Tune [A section ] First heard, just the base, a little foreshadowing, in the beginning of the track "First Sleeding Attempt": Then to its solo form, still in the same track, 1:39-2:03: and in "joining the team", 0:09-0:22: And to its glorious form, one of my favourite bit in the whole score. Heard in the same track, 2:04 - 2:16: Working Tune [B section ] First heard in the track "First sleeding attempt", 1:06-1:20: to its triumphant return in "Joining the team", another favorite bit, 2:28-2:45: Working Riff Whenver working tune is on display, there is always the working riff. It is simple, and quite reminiscent of Evolution tbh First heard in "Snowy climb", 0:21 onward a slower version of the riff in "First Sleeding ATtempt". Start at 0:50 More upbeat version in "Joining the team", start at 0:03: To its epic form, start at 1:20 in Buck Takes The Lead: And, this is what i just realized, the danger motif at 2:27 onward is actually the arrangement of the riff itself. How clever Heroes Tune Powell loves heroes, because there is also a Hero Theme in HTTYD3, so finger croseed his next gig will be a superheroes movie. In regards to HTTYD, this tune bears a similarity to HTTYD theme somehow. First heard in "Ice Rescue", 0:51-1:30 To its epic mode, 3:22-3:44, in Buck Takes the Lead: Before its triumphant return, 3:54-4:00: and 4:29-4:34 and to be continued.... Jay, Richard Penna, Tydirium and 5 others 5 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,454 Posted February 26, 2020 Share Posted February 26, 2020 Quality post. PrayodiBA 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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