badbu 123 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 12 hours ago, Jay said: New minute+ clip with Giacchino score the entire time The cue could be unreleased because Shazam and Aha don't recognize it, but maybe they don't have the full albums in their DB yet reminds me a little of hans cat women theme. i like the strings at the end Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 2 hours ago, badbu said: reminds me a little of hans cat women theme. i like the strings at the end Maybe Hans ghostwrote it... badbu and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 hahahahaha :D:D yes, maybe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 this is so going to be my favourite scene! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bored 309 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I liked that Batman and Catwoman clip, not the score, but the clip, but does every single costume that's not Batman's have to be so dull and overly "realistic"? If you're going to have the over the head Catwoman mask, just go full on mask. Why the ski mask with a little hint at the ears poking out? So unnecessary. Same with the Batmobile. We can't have a cool design cause that'd be cheesy, so just make it either a tank or a normal car with attachments. I keep re-iterating this, but the Arkham games (with Knight as the exception) just balanced the gritty with comic accurate style so much better than this movie design-wise. I'm sure the movie will be good, but something about this obnoxiously dark and gritty approach of it in practically every aspect just rubs me the wrong way. It comes across simultaneously as pretentious, and disingenuous, aping the Nolan trilogy as much as possible in order to make as much money as possible. It doesn't come across as just Matt Reeves' or Giacchino's visions, it comes across like a little bit of their vision with the studio breathing down their neck to remind people of the Nolan trilogy, with an extra note that simply reads "not dark enough". badbu and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 I will hold off my judgements until I see the film. Giacchino has composed some rather good stuff for Matt Reeves in the past. Now that I think of it, every single one of these previous works was primarily based on quite simple repetitive thematic ideas - Cloverfield, Let Me In, two Planet of the Apes. Not exactly brimming with long-lined melodies, but clever in exploring texture and striking in dramatic application. For my money, these remain some of composer's strongest film works which explore where his actual strength (like Lost did as well). That is I wouldn't write this one off just yet. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 The Apes scores put me to sleep and I think his strongest scores have always been for children's films (I include Tomorrowland in that category). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blondheim 1,157 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 War was considerably better than Dawn Edmilson, bruce marshall and Bofur01 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 23, 2022 Share Posted February 23, 2022 My favorite APES score is DAY, followed by EVENING😉 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 13 hours ago, Disco Stu said: The Apes scores put me to sleep and I think his strongest scores have always been for children's films (I include Tomorrowland in that category). I prefer his "quieter" scores. War of the Planet of the Apes, Inside Out, An American Pickle, etc. I am just not a fan of his bombastic action scoring. Which is why I think I will love The Batman at lot more than others. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,963 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 https://www.amazon.com/Batman-Original-Motion-Picture-Soundtrack/dp/B09RZQD9DL Tracktitles. The 12 minute cue at the end is called Sonata Of Darkness badbu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 i hope i like it 1 Can't Fight City Halloween 2 Mayoral Ducting 3 It's Raining Vengeance 4 Don't Be Voyeur with Me 5 Crossing the Feline 6 Gannika Girl 7 Moving in for the Gil 8 Funeral and Far Between 9 Collar ID 10 Escaped Crusader 11 Penguin of Guilt 12 Highway to the Anger Zone 13 World's Worst Translator 14 Riddles, Riddles Everywhere 15 Meow and You and Everyone We Know 16 For All Your Pennyworth 17 Are You a Kenzie or a Can't-zie? 18 An Im-purr-fect Murder 19 The Great Pumpkin Pie 20 Hoarding School 21 A Flood of Terrors 22 A Bat in the Rafters, Pt. 1 23 A Bat in the Rafters, Pt. 2 24 The Bat's True Calling 25 All's Well That Ends Farewell 26 The Batman 27 The Riddler 28 Catwoman 29 Sonata in Darkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 16 hours ago, superultramegaa said: I liked that Batman and Catwoman clip, not the score, but the clip, but does every single costume that's not Batman's have to be so dull and overly "realistic"? If you're going to have the over the head Catwoman mask, just go full on mask. Why the ski mask with a little hint at the ears poking out? So unnecessary. Same with the Batmobile. We can't have a cool design cause that'd be cheesy, so just make it either a tank or a normal car with attachments. I keep re-iterating this, but the Arkham games (with Knight as the exception) just balanced the gritty with comic accurate style so much better than this movie design-wise. I'm sure the movie will be good, but something about this obnoxiously dark and gritty approach of it in practically every aspect just rubs me the wrong way. It comes across simultaneously as pretentious, and disingenuous, aping the Nolan trilogy as much as possible in order to make as much money as possible. It doesn't come across as just Matt Reeves' or Giacchino's visions, it comes across like a little bit of their vision with the studio breathing down their neck to remind people of the Nolan trilogy, with an extra note that simply reads "not dark enough". I think you forgot how bad the Batman films were before the Nolan trilogy. The best Batman film in the 90s was Mask of Phantasm, which was also the darkest. Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Yeah, but 80+ years of material could probably let you do some of the elements in those earlier films (plus other Batman media) much better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Mephariel said: I think you forgot how bad the Batman films were before the Nolan trilogy. The best Batman film in the 90s was Mask of Phantasm, which was also the darkest. Well I agree MOTP is the best but BATMAN was cool also! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 5 hours ago, Mephariel said: I think you forgot how bad the Batman films were before the Nolan trilogy. The best Batman film in the 90s was Mask of Phantasm, which was also the darkest. They were bad DURING the Nolan trilogy too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 24, 2022 Author Share Posted February 24, 2022 Track TIMES revealed " ‘The Batman’ Soundtrack Album Details The full details of the soundtrack album for Matt Reeves’ The Batman have been revealed. The album features the film’s original music composed by Academy Award winner Michael Giacchino (Up, Lost, Star Trek, Jurassic World, Spider-Man: No Way Home, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, The Incredibles, Ratatouille, War for the Planet of the Apes). The soundtrack will be released digitally this Friday, February 25 by WaterTower Music and is now available for pre-order on Amazon. The label has previously released three digital singles featuring Giacchino’s Batman, The Riddler and Catwoman themes. The Batman is co-written and directed by Reeves and stars Robert Pattinson, Zoë Kravitz, Paul Dano, Jeffrey Wright, John Turturro, Peter Sarsgaard Andy Serkis, Jayme Lawson and Colin Farrell. The film will be released in theaters nationwide on March 4 by Warner Bros. Pictures. Visit the official movie website for more information. Here’s the album track list: 1. Can’t Fight City Halloween (4:04) 2. Mayoral Ducting (2:34) 3. It’s Raining Vengeance (4:31) 4. Don’t Be Voyeur with Me (2:38) 5. Crossing the Feline (1:46) 6. Gannika Girl (2:30) 7. Moving in for the Gil (4:23) 8. Funeral and Far Between (1:45) 9. Collar ID (1:15) 10. Escaped Crusader (2:44) 11. Penguin of Guilt (3:44) 12. Highway to the Anger Zone (5:19) 13. World’s Worst Translator (3:34) 14. Riddles, Riddles Everywhere (1:54) 15. Meow and You and Everyone We Know (5:18) 16. For All Your Pennyworth (2:38) 17. Are You a Kenzie or a Can’t-zie? (5:45) 18. An Im-purr-fect Murder (3:48) 19. The Great Pumpkin Pie (2:22) 20. Hoarding School (4:55) 21. A Flood of Terrors (4:29) 22. A Bat in the Rafters, Pt. 1 (4:33) 23. A Bat in the Rafters, Pt. 2 (6:42) 24. The Bat’s True Calling (3:05) 25. All’s Well That Ends Farewell (2:41) 26. The Batman (6:47) 27. The Riddler (5:01) 28. Catwoman (3:03) 29. Sonata in Darkness (12:11) " http://filmmusicreporter.com/2022/02/24/the-batman-soundtrack-album-details/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 Good to see that Giacchino's trend of making awful puns with the track titles is still intact. 8 hours ago, TheUlyssesian said: They were bad DURING the Nolan trilogy too. The only bad Batman movie Nolan has ever done is The Dark Knight Rises, which is truly terrible. Yavar Moradi and Taikomochi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WampaRat 1,105 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 27 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Good to see that Giacchino's trend of making awful puns with the track titles is still intact. They aren’t even recognizable as puns anymore. Lol In any case, looking forward to giving this a full listen on Friday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Edmilson said: The only bad Batman movie Nolan has ever done is The Dark Knight Rises, which is truly terrible. I think Batman begins is an extremely mediocre movie too and deeply uninteresting. The dark knight is the only good movie of the bunch. And like you said, rises is peurile trash. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tallguy 3,389 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 I liked Rises and I think Dark Knight is good but way over rated. And non of them hold a candle to The Prestige. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 24, 2022 41 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: I think Batman begins is an extremely mediocre movie too and deeply uninteresting. The dark knight is the only good movie of the bunch. And like you said, rises is peurile trash. Begins is my favorite Batman movie ever. I like it more than TDK, to be honest, even though the 2008 movie is obviously the best of the bunch. badbu, bored and JTN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted February 24, 2022 Share Posted February 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Tallguy said: I liked Rises and I think Dark Knight is good but way over rated. And non of them hold a candle to The Prestige. Prestige is the best Batman movie for sure because he gets to face off against Wolverine, Black Widow and a treacherous Alfred. (Also its good) Yavar Moradi and Tallguy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 It's Nolan's best movie, that is for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 36 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Begins is my favorite Batman movie ever. I like it more than TDK, to be honest, even though the 2008 movie is obviously the best of the bunch. Oi! Didn't mean to dunk on your favorite. Sorry about that. I just didn't care for it even an iota. I just in general don't care for Nolan or Bale. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: Begins is my favorite Batman movie ever. I like it more than TDK, to be honest, even though the 2008 movie is obviously the best of the bunch. Mine too and also the best score Edmilson and bored 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bored 309 Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 2 hours ago, Edmilson said: Begins is my favorite Batman movie ever. I like it more than TDK, to be honest, even though the 2008 movie is obviously the best of the bunch. Exactly, it's the only one that competently depicts his use of stealth, and where his voice for Batman is actually interesting to listen to. It's also not even that dark of a movie, and has some fun, almost campy scenes at times. Plus I think Batman's detective work, while often only implied, feels the most purposeful and competent in that movie. It feels the most like a Batman movie, and not just a crime thriller. 37 minutes ago, badbu said: also the best score Of that trilogy, absolutely. It's the only one that's still consistently popcorn fun from Zimmer, with a lot of emotional resonance from James Newton Howard, as the other two scores drag tremendously at times. Holko, Edmilson and JTN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,456 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 37 minutes ago, superultramegaa said: Exactly, it's the only one that competently depicts his use of stealth, and where his voice for Batman is actually interesting to listen to. It's also not even that dark of a movie, and has some fun, almost campy scenes at times. Plus I think Batman's detective work, while often only implied, feels the most purposeful and competent in that movie. It feels the most like a Batman movie, and not just a crime thriller. Indeed. This is why it's my favorite Batman movie, it's because, well, a Batman movie. Unlike TDK, which may be more competently done from a filmmaking point of view, but it's also deeply uninterested on Batman and Bruce Wayne as a character. I mean, it's a crime thriller starring comic book characters. Begins, on the other hand, has a lot of cool Batman moments and it's a more comic book-y feel. Also, Begins is way funnier than TDK, which can be a little exhausting and depressing to watch. bored and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Mephariel 451 Posted February 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted February 25, 2022 The Dark Knight is absolutely the best comic book movie ever imo. Joker's acting, the thematic strength, and the arc of the characters are just phenomenal. But I agree that Batman Begins is fantastic as well. badbu, bruce marshall and JTN 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 the score is not available…weird Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsevilr 4 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 It’s up now badbu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Yesss Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Anybody who doesn't like Nolan's BATMAN isn't a fan of the character. They just like to wallow in negativity and like to pretend they are part of some cultural elite. How very tiresome they are😒 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 So by your logic: I'm not a fan of the character if I only like Adam West Batman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 i like the score :-) The batman theme is indeed played very often, which i find good though. My fav so far are: 1. Can’t Fight City Halloween 3. It’s Raining Vengeance 5. Crossing the Feline 6. Gannika Girl 8. Funeral and Far Between 10. Escaped Crusader 12. Highway to the Anger Zone 18. An Im-purr-fect Murder -> 2:57 in your face! love it! 29. Sonata in Darkness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 48 minutes ago, HunterTech said: So by your logic: I'm not a fan of the character if I only like Adam West Batman? I don't know what YOU are? 😝😜😛😄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 1 hour ago, badbu said: i like the score :-) The batman theme is indeed played very often, which i find good though. My fav so far are: 1. Can’t Fight City Halloween 3. It’s Raining Vengeance 5. Crossing the Feline 6. Gannika Girl 8. Funeral and Far Between 10. Escaped Crusader 12. Highway to the Anger Zone 18. An Im-purr-fect Murder -> 2:57 in your face! love it! 29. Sonata in Darkness I am 15 tracks in and I felt like the whole album is just a different variations of the Batman theme. So yeah it is play often, but I am not sure if that is good thing. Because none of the other materials so far are that interesting. Is it just me or is the first 1:30 of "Meow and You and Everyone We Know" a straight up rip of Zimmer's Bane theme? badbu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
badbu 123 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 10 minutes ago, Mephariel said: Is it just me or is the first 1:30 of "Meow and You and Everyone We Know" a straight up rip of Zimmer's Bane theme? funny, i thougt the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mephariel 451 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Just finished the album. Let's start with what I like. I think Giacchino did his best with the sad, tender cues. I really enjoy the heavy warmth of "For All Your Pennyworth" and I thought "Funeral and Far Between" is a touching, elegant theme. And maybe this is just comfort food, but I also enjoy the female vocal (yes this is way overused in today's scores) whenever it shows up because it lightens a rather dark soundscape. The opening of "Meow and You and Everyone We Know" is a straight rip of Zimmer's Bane theme, but the back end of the cue is quite nice. "An Im-purr-fect Murder" has some intrigue, and really evokes a noir, heist atmosphere. My favorites of the bunch is "The Bat's True Calling" and "All's Well That Ends Farewell." Both are great Adagios for the character. The lengthy and brilliant "Sonata in Darkness" nicely summed up the ideas in the aforementioned cues. What I don't like...honestly, a lot of the album is not that interesting. A lot of it is a variation of the Batman theme. I mean even a cue called "Penguin of Guilt" is a variation of the Batman theme. The music throughout the album has a refined sketchbook compositional quality. Most of the cues are just repetitive stanzas of a single idea. "Hoarding School" for example is a pain to get through. I think the album has nice ideas, but the execution of those ideas are nowhere near as interesting as Giacchino thinks. Overall, after the first listen, I rate this album 3/5 stars. I think most of the materials are 2 stars, but "Sonata in Darkness," the character suites, and the last two cues elevated my overall impression. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drawgoon 100 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 For someone who simply can't stand the horror/thriller genre, listening to this score sure was a very difficult and unpleasant experience -- and to think I sat through all of it, hoping to find something to like! I suppose I should have known what I am in for from the plot synopsis, trailers, and the those two Batman and Riddler suites that dropped earlier. But alas that Catwoman tune totally fooled me into thinking I had gotten it wrong. Still glad I discovered that suite, though. Hopefully MG's other upcoming works are more on the fun side. There is enough unpleasant vibes in the real world already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Listening to the album one time thru, I am going to listen again to re-evaluate my impression, but right now the OST is a real slog to get thru. Gia takes a few musical ideas and really over-uses the hell out of them. I feel bludgeoned by the character themes. And the last track, Sonata in Darkness, has an amateur YouTube cover quality to it. It is an exceedingly simple solo piano presentation of the Batman ideas that makes me think Gia shouldn't write for solo piano. Compared to other composers who know how to write for solo piano, this track just sounds like a direct translation with no real consideration for the piano itself or what it can bring to the Batman theme. It's just The Batman theme in solo piano in the most pedestrian way. They say writing for solo piano is most difficult because a composer has nowhere to hide and I think that is exactly what happened here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Bat in the Rafters is very evocative of 'Up the Cathedral', and I love it. I've given a few tracks a listen, but will wait until I see the film to properly appreciate the score. WampaRat 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 7 hours ago, bruce marshall said: Anybody who doesn't like Nolan's BATMAN isn't a fan of the character. They just like to wallow in negativity and like to pretend they are part of some cultural elite. How very tiresome they are😒 I unabeshedly am not a fan of the character. Of the most ridiculous and laughable characters in popular culture, if not the most ridiculous and laughable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 And new music Friday is starting with a long album today! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Unless it is simply not announced yet, it seems Water Tower is not releasing this on physical disc in any region. However, the Japanese label Rambling Records is releasing it on pressed CDs there in limited quantities: "In the home country, this work will be a regular CD press board only for the first time and will be a CDR product after that, and we will release only the regular CD press board as RBCP5683 in a limited quantity!" http://www.rambling.ne.jp/ Here are some places you can buy the Japanese pressing: https://arksquare.net/detail.php?cdno=RBCP-5683 https://www.amazon.co.jp/-/en/dp/B09TF8X5XT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 No CD and this is 1000% guaranteed to have a Mondo vinyl release within the next 6 months. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Of course. And it will sell out in minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,013 Posted February 25, 2022 Share Posted February 25, 2022 Oh dear. I just grabbed one from ArkSquare. Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted February 25, 2022 Author Share Posted February 25, 2022 Anyone know of anything else interesting Arksquare carries that might be worth picking up? For example, they have a jewel case edition of TROS https://arksquare.net/detail.php?cdno=UWCD-9014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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