Jay 38,847 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Quote I'm in the audience at Settling the Score tonight at the Royal Albert Hall, in London. It's a showcase with Michael Giacchino and David Arnold, playing compositions by the both of them to 'compete' and see who is the better composer. Both of them are in attendance to present the evening, and there are a few special guests too! It's quite a lot of fun - both Arnold and Giacchino are very funny. Matt Reeves just came onstage to introduce the Cloverfield suite. And then he "proposed" to Giacchino on one knee, asking him to score "The Batman". Giacchino said yes! https://www.reddit.com/r/movies/comments/djs6q8/breaking_news_from_the_royal_albert_hall_tonight/ Arpy and Ollie 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 That's one way to announce a project Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,847 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 It will be interesting to see how his approach differs from the way he scored Spider-man and Doctor Strange Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,929 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Im glad he has been confirmed Cant wait for that score! With so many "Joker"...i really want to see mark hammil playing the role, i think he could physically nail it, and he already has the voice ;). Maybe not for this movie, but if they make a trilogy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 8,114 Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2019 Fuck! John, Marcus, A. A. Ron and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,847 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 This film stars Robert Pattinson as Batman, Jeffrey Wright as Commissioner Gordon, Zoe Kravitz as Catwoman, and Paul Dano as The Riddler Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,539 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Reeves usually brings the darkest on Giacchino: the ROAR theme from Cloverfield, Let Me In, his Andy Serkis Planet of the Apes movies, they're all among Gia's darkest and bleakest scores. So, it'll be interesting to see how he handles Batman. It'll probably be very different than The Incredibles, Spider-Man or Doctor Strange. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John Dutton 7,218 Posted October 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2019 Boy, they just keep handing all the big properties to that schmuck. Nick Parker, Kasey Kockroach and A. A. Ron 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 10,238 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 11 minutes ago, Jay said: Jeffrey Wright...and Paul Dano as The Riddler Oh, yes! Colour me "impressed". One of my all-favourite actors, and a great "young" talent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,538 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I think his batman theme might sound like this Krennick theme. I think that could be a good model. The batman theme is unique among superhero themes in that it should also have a note of menace in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Hmm. I don't think his musical tendencies lend well to a character like Batman. I guess we’ll see how this turns out. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 His kind of music really only works when scoring monster movie antics. Mainly because his action music usually doesn't have flow to it, just lots of rhythmic stabs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,539 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I dunno, I guess that after a decade and a half of moody Batman music, we'll have a more expansive Batman theme since the days of Elfman/Goldenthal. For some reason, whenever I try to imagine how a Giacchino Batman theme would sound like, the first thing that pops in my head is this: Cerebral Cortex and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,575 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 MOH music would work great in a Batman setting. Before I heard Goldsmith's The Shadow, I considered it the closest that has gotten to Elfman's nocturnal palette. That, jazz, and recent brooding tracks like the above from Jurassic World 2, make me think Giacchino has all tools in the box to write this sort of score. Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 1,163 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 So..... for the third time now, Hollywood has decided that the guy who did the most popular hero for one company should now do the most popular hero for the rival company. At least it was Spidey first this time around, which makes the news more out of left field somewhat. Though seriously: now with Gia joining Elfman and Zimmer in the ranks of being those guys who composed for both Batman and Spider-Man, would that have meant that Horner would've taken a stab at it had he lived? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 This should be the 'desperate mode' choice, not something you beg on your knees for... Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 The prospect of Giacchino doing the score doesn't have me super excited (although it could be good), but I'm still looking forward to a fresh take on the character (hopefully) after 10+ years of too much self-seriousness. We'll see how it turns out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,044 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, publicist said: This should be the 'desperate mode' choice, not something you beg on your knees for... I beg on my knees and ask him to stay away, you don't see a Reddit thread about me getting posted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,575 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 . publicist and Bayesian 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,647 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I haven't even listened to anything by him post the last Apes movie he did, why bother... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 38,847 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Popular Post Share Posted October 18, 2019 Because Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom and Spider-man: Far From Home are two of the best blockbuster scores he's ever written Fargo, Arpy, Ollie and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,539 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Indeed, and Incredibles 2 was pretty good too. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 38,847 Posted October 18, 2019 Author Share Posted October 18, 2019 Eh, I didn't care for it But if his blockbuster sound isn't your thing, El Royale and Jojo Rabbit are certainly worth checking out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sunshine Reger 3,575 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,785 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 47 minutes ago, publicist said: This should be the 'desperate mode' choice, not something you beg on your knees for... A film music version of a shotgun wedding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,311 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 After Elfman, Goldenthal... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Nelson Riddle Danny Elfman Elliot Goldenthal Hans Zimmer James Newton Howard Junkie XL Michael Giacchino Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,114 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I hate him vehemently. Well, not him, strictly speaking (he seems like a nice person), but his music. And the position he has in contemporary film music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,311 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 7 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Nelson Riddle Danny Elfman Elliot Goldenthal Hans Zimmer James Newton Howard Junkie XL Michael Giacchino And Shirley Walker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,044 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 16 minutes ago, Romão said: And Shirley Walker She wasn't the best overall, but as far as nailing characters with motifs she was unbeatable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,311 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 minute ago, Nick Parker said: She wasn't the best overall, but as far as nailing characters with motifs she was unbeatable. I agree completely. All her villain themes are pretty much timeless and definitive Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,044 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Romão said: I agree completely. All her villain themes are pretty much timeless and definitive People talk about how they always hear Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill when they think of Batman and the Joker...whenever I think of a Batman character, I think of her themes, titular character included. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 I figure he gets around mainly because he’s apparently a super-duper nice and easy fellow to work with, not as much because of his actual work. Or maybe the directors that hire him just want to enjoy the hackneyed puns he comes up with. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 243 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 Does this mean he won't be able to do Jurassic World 3, resulting in John Powell scoring it instead? A man can dream... Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,114 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 3 minutes ago, Evanus said: Does this mean he won't be able to do Jurassic World 3, resulting in John Powell scoring it instead? A man can dream... Oh, that would be great! Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 36 minutes ago, Romão said: And Shirley Walker 19 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: She wasn't the best overall, but as far as nailing characters with motifs she was unbeatable. I was listing Batman film composers only. Yeah yeah insert dumb "she ghost wrote Elfman's score" jokes hardy har har. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,044 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 2 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I was listing Batman film composers only. Yeah yeah insert dumb "she ghost wrote Elfman's score" jokes hardy har har. No one was thinking that but you! Joaspp and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,311 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 9 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I was listing Batman film composers only. Yeah yeah insert dumb "she ghost wrote Elfman's score" jokes hardy har har. She did write Mask of the Phantasm Joaspp and Ollie 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,501 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 8 minutes ago, Romão said: She did write Mask of the Phantasm Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 8,539 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Thor said: I hate him vehemently. Well, not him, strictly speaking (he seems like a nice person), but his music. And the position he has in contemporary film music. Really? Do you have such an intense and burning dislike for Michael Giacchino's music that you actively hate it? I mean, I get, apparently 70% or 80% of people here don't really like his music, but to the point of hatred? I mean, sure, there are film scores that I dislike and composers whose music I don't care for - and I know that in English when you say you don't care for something, it's synomous with you don't like something, but on this case I mean that I don't bother enough to actually waste my time listening to composers or scores that I know I'm not going to like it, for example, Jed Kurzel's Assassin's Creed. There's so many other things on this world to hate, like the corrupt people on charge my soccer team Cruzeiro Esporte Clube, who has actively ruining the team's finances to the point that we're now with serious chances to falling to the second division of our national championship, FOR THE VERY FIRST FUCKING TIME. But not film composers or scores. In fact, they seem to be some of the most wonderful people on Hollywood these days. No sexual or harassment scandals (that we know of), just hardoworking music nerds. On the other hand, I get that he is getting a lot of high profile jobs that could've been given to other equally or even more talented people, like when Doctor Strange went for him instead of Christopher Young, who has been collaborating with director Scott Derrickson until that point. But I imagine this is more Disney's fault, who wanted a bigger "name" for their blockbuster, and not Giacchino's - on his place, I wouldn't refuse being paid an enourmous salary for high profile jobs either. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 8,114 Posted October 18, 2019 Share Posted October 18, 2019 10 minutes ago, Edmilson said: Really? Do you have such an intense and burning dislike for Michael Giacchino's music that you actively hate it? I mean, I get, apparently 70% or 80% of people here don't really like his music, but to the point of hatred? Yes, I do. But I'll have to specify that it's 50-50 between a dislike of the man's music and an extreme irritation over the adulation he receives from so many fans; which IMO is just the "Emperor's New Clothes" as he takes over one franchise after the other. To the extent one can use the word 'hate' in such a marginal thing as film music, I can easily apply it to Michael Giacchino's music, and his position in film music. That being said, I do enjoy JOHN CARTER, and I think LOST is great in context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 461 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Modest Expectations said: Some really bat puns are incoming, that's certain. I guarantee at least one of these will be on Giacchino's OST listing: "Bats in the Belfry" "The Cat and the Bat" "Welcome to the Batcave" "Na na na BATMAN" 5 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Boy, they just keep handing all the big properties to that schmuck. Dude, you hated Elfman's Justice League score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,159 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Thor said: Yes, I do. But I'll have to specify that it's 50-50 between a dislike of the man's music and an extreme irritation over the adulation he receives from so many fans; which IMO is just the "Emperor's New Clothes" as he takes over one franchise after the other. To the extent one can use the word 'hate' in such a marginal thing as film music, I can easily apply it to Michael Giacchino's music, and his position in film music. This is the saddest thing I've read on this entire forum. Edmilson and Erik Woods 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 8,493 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 6 hours ago, Gruesome Son of a Bitch said: Boy, they just keep handing all the big properties to that schmuck. He's just a poor schmo that got lucky. John Dutton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,362 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 4 hours ago, Evanus said: Does this mean he won't be able to do Jurassic World 3, resulting in John Powell scoring it instead? A man can dream... Powell’s expressed disinterest in composing music for horror movies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 9 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: Powell’s expressed disinterest in composing music for horror movies. Powell will be too busy doing the Chicken Run sequel! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jules 59 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 I don't hate Giacchino, but I think some of his music can be described as different flavours of bland. Never understood the love for something like Rogue One or the new Jurassic scores. Ratotuille and the Incredibles are definitely my favourites from him, and I also like the Apes scores. On these, I felt he created something genuinely exciting with the styles he was working with. Other work falls very flat - Star Trek, Mission Impossible, Bad Times. Like Thor I bemoan the amount of opportunities he's given on new or reinventions of franchises, but then scores like Doctor Strange and even the first MCU Spiderman score aren't in any way bad works. Looking forward to Jojo Rabbit, hoping for something a bit like Coco in tone when I get around to it. Just feel that there are more voices out there with more interesting things to bring to the table, particularly for this new Batman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Dutton 7,218 Posted October 19, 2019 Share Posted October 19, 2019 1 hour ago, Matt C said: Dude, you hated Elfman's Justice League score. It's crap. Crap. Crap. Mega crap. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Erik Woods 584 Posted October 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2019 5 hours ago, Thor said: I hate him vehemently. Well, not him, strictly speaking (he seems like a nice person), but his music. And the position he has in contemporary film music. You know, he does this just to piss you off and that makes me SOOOOOO happy. -Erik- KittBash, Ollie and Edmilson 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Arpy 4,159 Posted October 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted October 19, 2019 Giacchino brings out the snobbery of the forum once again. All I'll say is this, since I'm usually taking the position of his defender (or so I'd like to think): I don't get the sheer effort it takes to despise something before it's even out there or deriding other's enjoyment of the material because it doesn't appeal to you. All still permitting that these are comic book films which other composers' opportunities to score them is no way in jeopardy or in short supply. *Giacchino's stealing our jobs!* Even when we get Elfman, Silvestri, JNH, Zimmer etc. to score these comic book films, people are still disappointed, and then you guys come to this thread and complain about Giacchino's hiring, when we know by now that you don't like it based on every other flippin' thread! Not even that, but a quick glance at Reeves' past work is enough to gleam that he's had a good working relationship with Giacchino and they are friends making this announcement unsurprising. I'm sorry, but this classist attitude is beneath you and everyone on this forum. KittBash, Ollie and Edmilson 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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