AJM 14 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Just been browsing through a list of rejected scores and it got me thinking. Are there any rejected film scores by a composer that you prefer over the replaced composed score? Or even where another composer was brought in to replace a handful of cues given how few rejected scores have been release/leaked? For me it would be have to Michel Legrand's rejected score for Robin and Marian. Long list of rejected scores here: http://rejectedfilmscores.125mb.com/list.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I do like both but Christopher Young’s rejected score for An Unfinished Life (2005) is a lot better than Deborah Lurie’s replacement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Timeline Troy TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 The torn curtain Ollie 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Troy is the first that comes to mind Something to Wicked This Way Comes, perhaps Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,504 Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 The ultimate example, to me, is Morricone's WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. It is - in fact - my second favourite Morricone in general! Not to say the Kamen is bad, but it's in a whole other league. But loads of other examples. I prefer Bernstein's LAST MAN STANDING over Cooder's. Illaremendi's LA LENGUA DE LAS MARIPOSES over Marenabar's. Corigliano's EDGE OF DARKNESS over Shore's. Chris Young's AN UNFINISHED LIFE over Lurie's. Goldsmith's TIMELINE over Tyler's. And loads more I can't remember off the top of my head. Yavar Moradi, AJM, GerateWohl and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 I had forgotten these (great) examples and there are probably dozens more, I should check my copy of Torn Music again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 It's controversial, I know, but...I'd like to hear Legrand's music for THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, synched to the film. How different would both THE RIGHT STUFF, and 2010 be, if the filmmakers went with their original choices? AJM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Biodome 714 Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 I like the Yub Nub finale AJM, filmmusic and Bespin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 2001: A Space Odyssey Ollie, Edmilson and AJM 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted January 8, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 8, 2021 Jerry Goldsmith's rejected score to Star Wars. AJM, Bayesian and A. A. Ron 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,363 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, Jay said: 2001: A Space Odyssey That's mostly because you're not a big fan of classical music, if I'm not mistaken, right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Legend. Well it's not a properly "rejected" score, but I prefer the "European" soundtrack of Jerry Goldsmith over the synth "thing" that replaced it on the American versions. Naïve Old Fart and filmmusic 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 6 minutes ago, Bayesian said: That's mostly because you're not a big fan of classical music, if I'm not mistaken, right? It's not that I don't like classical music, it's simply that I've never been compelled to sit down an actively choose to listen to any over listening to something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's controversial, I know, but...I'd like to hear Legrand's music for THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, synched to the film. Com'on his work is ridiculous, with his own voice... wahou-wahou-wahouhhh!!! As a French man, and moreover a Paris born man, he really though he would do American Native music. But the director didn't want folkloric music or a pastiche of it. His cues are laughable... and that's why his work was rejected. AJM 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AJM 14 Posted January 8, 2021 Author Share Posted January 8, 2021 3 hours ago, Thor said: The ultimate example, to me, is Morricone's WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. It is - in fact - my second favourite Morricone in general! Not to say the Kamen is bad, but it's in a whole other league. But loads of other examples. I prefer Bernstein's LAST MAN STANDING over Cooder's. Illaremendi's LA LENGUA DE LAS MARIPOSES over Marenabar's. Corigliano's EDGE OF DARKNESS over Shore's. Chris Young's AN UNFINISHED LIFE over Lurie's. Goldsmith's TIMELINE over Tyler's. And loads more I can't remember off the top of my head. That is a lot of rejected scores you prefer over the replacements. For the most part, I much prefer the replacement scores. Not listened to What Dreams May Come yet so might give a listen soon and see which I prefer. 2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: It's controversial, I know, but...I'd like to hear Legrand's music for THE MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING, synched to the film. How different would both THE RIGHT STUFF, and 2010 be, if the filmmakers went with their original choices? I never found Legrand's rejected score all that enjoyable, especially the male vocals. Williams score was much better and enjoyable. 1 hour ago, Biodome said: I like the Yub Nub finale The version used in the film is much better than the album version. Prefer it over victory celebration as well. Fits better with the Ewok celebration at the end. 1 hour ago, Jay said: 2001: A Space Odyssey The choice of classical music in the film is good, but I too much prefer the North score over the classical pieces in the context of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 1 hour ago, AJM said: That is a lot of rejected scores you prefer over the replacements. For the most part, I much prefer the replacement scores. Not listened to What Dreams May Come yet so might give a listen soon and see which I prefer. Please do so! It's a masterpiece, and easily available on Youtube or wherever. There are plenty of other cases where I'm less thrilled with the rejected score, and more pleased with the replacement score. In other words agreeing with the producers of the film. Or at the very least where they're even. I prefer Korzeniowski's new score for ROMEO & JULIET over Horner's, Horner's TROY over Yared's, Williams' MAN WHO LOVED CAT DANCING over Legrand's, the classical music over North's music in 2001, Zimmer's REGARDING HENRY over Delerue's, Goldsmith's CHINATOWN over Lambro's etc. etc. I actually did an episode on this years ago, but it's in Norwegian, so of limited interest: http://celluloidtunes.no/celluloid-tunes-46-refusert-musikk/ But you can scroll to the music clips and compare yourself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 8 minutes ago, Thor said: Horner's TROY over Yared's I guess I also like Horner's Troy more than Yared's, but I was afraid to saying that out loud and being target of cyberbullying! 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Well it's not a properly "rejected" score, but I prefer the "European" soundtrack of Jerry Goldsmith over the synth "thing" that replaced it on the American versions. You're talking about Legend, right? I prefer Jerry's version too. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Fixed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 15 minutes ago, Edmilson said: I guess I also like Horner's Troy more than Yared's, but I was afraid to saying that out loud and being target of cyberbullying! Just stand behind me. I'm the master at receiving cyberbullying! 15 minutes ago, Edmilson said: You're talking about Legend, right? I prefer Jerry's version too. I agree, but I absolutely LOVE the Tangerine Dream version. The best cue is "Jack vs. Darkness". Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 42 minutes ago, Edmilson said: being target of cyberbullying! Bullying?! At JWfan?! Never! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 2 hours ago, Bespin said: Well it's not a properly "rejected" score, but I prefer the "European" soundtrack of Jerry Goldsmith over the synth "thing" that replaced it on the American versions. Of course it was properly rejected. Just not for international distribution. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 At last, on the Blu-Ray, we can chose our version to watch. So everyone is happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 Unfortunately, we can't compare them in the film itself in most cases . LEGEND is a rare case. CONTEMPT another Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted January 8, 2021 Share Posted January 8, 2021 9 hours ago, Thor said: The ultimate example, to me, is Morricone's WHAT DREAMS MAY COME. It is - in fact - my second favourite Morricone in general! Not to say the Kamen is bad, but it's in a whole other league. This! Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 8 hours ago, Thor said: Just stand behind me. I'm the master at receiving cyberbullying! Yeah... but you are weird though. EDIT: My 100th post is me bullying Thor complaining about being bullied. Somebody frame this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Corellian2019 386 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Not an example of a fully rejected score, but when the (incomplete) sessions for Heat leaked, I found myself preferring Goldenthal's compositions over several of the songs that Michael Mann replaced them with, despite having loved and grown up with those songs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yavar Moradi 2,599 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 17 hours ago, LSH said: I do like both but Christopher Young’s rejected score for An Unfinished Life (2005) is a lot better than Deborah Lurie’s replacement. I agree and I also feel that way about Cliff Eidelman's rejected score to Picture Bride as compared with Mark Altman's (still very nice) final score. I guess the Goldsmith/Tyler Timelines fit into this as well, and the Bernstein/Barry Scarlet Letter scores (the Barry is predictably nice but the Bernstein is *transcendent* and probably my favorite thing he wrote in the last 2+ decades of his life). Yavar Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Troy for sure. I literally can't for the life of me can't imagine what they were thinking. Like if you just heard Yared's music you would be like that is splendid. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 It is splendid but..... I can see how it 'might have overpowered the film. Well probably never know😞 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted January 9, 2021 Share Posted January 9, 2021 Troy Timeline 2001, the classical music just feels out of place and comical. The Golden Child Platoon 2 Days in the Valley Most of the music from Elmer Bernstein’s rejected score collection Varese released. Edmilson and Yavar Moradi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 John's rejected Color Purple score over Jone's score Ollie and TheUlyssesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 10, 2021 Share Posted January 10, 2021 As far as I'm aware, there is no "John's rejected" score, for TCP...or are you being mischievous? JoeinAR 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted January 10, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted January 10, 2021 It's an old joke he uses whenever he can. There's no truth to it, no. JoeinAR, Naïve Old Fart and Bespin 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 I don't think Williams ever had a score that was rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Edmilson said: I don't think Williams ever had a score that was rejected. Andre Previn once related a story wherein both he and Williams were rejected from an Ann-Margret movie, but it's been difficult to find out which it was, and if there's any truth to it. Yavar Moradi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DrTenma 116 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 On 1/8/2021 at 2:52 PM, Jay said: 2001: A Space Odyssey I can understand it but I much prefer the tracked soundtrack. North score sounds dated, a score from a movie in 1968 and the classical score sounds timeless. In my case, Troy is the best example of a rejected score that I prefer over the replaced one. Yared did a great job and Horner a good but predictable one. Also, the 13th Warrior from Graeme Revell is surprisingly good... Not sure if I prefer it over Goldsmith one, but I would have keep it in the movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 13th Warrior is an interesting case, from a historical perspective. Musically Goldsmith towers over Revell, but Revell foreshadows the film scoring trends of the next 20 years with his highly atmospheric world music approach sans real themes or a convincing structure. The JG classic adventure approach seems comparably old-school and watching the movie, especially its cutting, this becomes obvious. The more colourful and rich the scoring gets (cf The sword Maker-sequence), the less suited it seems for the images. DrTenma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 11 hours ago, Thor said: Andre Previn once related a story wherein both he and Williams were rejected from an Ann-Margret movie... MAGIC, perhaps? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted January 11, 2021 Share Posted January 11, 2021 BYE BYE BIRDIE? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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