Star Trek: The Motion Picture - Director’s Cut 4K Restoration (supervised by Mike Matessino)

[Jay 37,364]

Holy cow.  That sounds incredible!

[Jay 37,364]

On 29/11/2021 at 8:54 AM, SyncMan said:

BTS images of the restoration:

https://www.startrek.com/gallery/go-behind-the-scenes-of-the-restoration-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture

 

I hadn't watched this yet, and now it appears to be gone?

[SyncMan 314]

You gotta by quick, @Jay 

 

Anyway, try this one:

 

https://www.startrek.com/gallery/updated-go-behind-the-scenes-of-the-restoration-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture

 

[Jay 37,364]

Thanks!

[Holko 9,526]

The videos don't show up at all for me.

[Jay 37,364]

It's a page of pictures, there are no videos

[Holko 9,526]

The one video in that one post, then.

https://intl.startrek.com/videos/watch-star-trek-the-motion-picture-restoration-mix

[Jay 37,364]

Only works with your ad blocker disabled

[Holko 9,526]

...oh

[Brónach 1,302]

On 09/12/2021 at 9:07 PM, Marian Schedenig said:

 

At one of Goldsmith's two LSO concerts in 2003 (his last with the orchestra, it would turn out), we were treated to a 30 minute suite from STTMP. Live orchestra, blaster beam, no dialogue or sound effects.

 That must have been amazing

[Tom Guernsey 2,284]

6 minutes ago, Brónach said:

 That must have been amazing

As someone else who was lucky enough to go, I can honestly say that it was, absolutely superb to hear an extended selection from one of his finest scores, including real life blaster beam and organ. It's a shame that with all the live score to film concerts where they've done Michael Giacchino's Star Trek scores that the one that would most benefit from being performed live to picture will never probably be performed as such. Even if Giacchino's Star Trek scores were great (they are... fine), the films are too noisy to be worth bothering getting a live symphony orchestra to play live whereas Jerry's gets the benefit of long "boring" sections of film with virtually no dialogue and few sound effects to play against. Ah well, maybe one day...

[Jay 37,364]

New pics

 

https://www.startrek.com/gallery/updated-go-behind-the-scenes-of-the-restoration-of-star-trek-the-motion-picture

[1977 1,743]

Wow! Some of those screencaps look incredible.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

Fuck. Me!!!

These look astonishing!!! I've always thought that STAR TREK: THE MOTION PICTURE was the best looking Star Trek film. Now I know why!

[Tallguy 3,389]

I'm super excited while also being super nervous about this project. The potential for highs is tremendous. OTOH, I now have a 4K transfer of the theatrical edition, so I suppose they can do what they want.

 

Am I reading that correctly, that they're getting the original elements and getting to recomposite them? That's amazing. That's the sort of thing that these "special edition" projects should get to do, IMHO. (Yes, I realize that I'm dismissing the work of the compositing artists from 1979 while thinking the work of modelers and animators is somehow sacred. I'm aware of my hypocrisy.)

[1977 1,743]

1 hour ago, Tallguy said:

Am I reading that correctly, that they're getting the original elements and getting to recomposite them? That's amazing.

 

I'm thrilled recompositing is being done digitally. One of the biggest disappointments for me with the DE was not improving on the existing F/X, some of which are really dated i.t.o. matte lines, as well as the integration of matted elements w.r.t. reflective light and colouring.

[rough cut 1,714]

I’m not a Trekkie, and have very little interest in the franchise in any incarnation, but that article got under my skin!

 

It looks like an amazing restoration process!

[OneBuckFilms 319]

It does seem like they are recompositing the VFX, and in the Spacedock scenes they are restoring the Earth as the Enterprise launches, which was always intended to be there.

 

They also seem to have added the shuttlepod to the orbiting office complex in a few more shots than the original DE. Good continuity fix.

 

Since the theatrical version of the film is still unaltered (this is how it's done George) I look forward to seeing this on 4K / Blu-ray, and on Paramount+ when released.

[Jay 37,364]

I like JTWFann77's recent changing avatars

[Naïve Old Fart 9,528]

@Jay, I noticed that, as well. Good choice, @JTWfan77.

[Tom Guernsey 2,284]

Looks amazing indeed... here's hoping it one day gets a live to picture performance of Jerry's stupendous score, if any Star Trek movie would work that way, this is it. Especially with the picture looking amazing.

[crumbs 14,316]

Have they remixed Jerry's score in Dolby Atmos, using the multitracks, for the new sound mix? That would sound quite breathtaking.

[OneBuckFilms 319]

Not sure if they would do that. The 15 track sources used for the LLLR set might be the ideal, assuming they are rebuilding the entire mix.

 

They might be starting with the theatrical mix as a broad basis, making adjustments from there, rather than rebuild the entire sound elements.

 

I suspect that whatever they do, it'll sound phenomenal.

[Manakin Skywalker 4,893]

Any word if this version will also have an isolated score, using the new mix? I would assume probably not since they just added one for the theatrical version, but the quality is just so hit-or-miss.

[OneBuckFilms 319]

That would be completely up in the air, since there has not even been an announcement (just a presumption) of a 4K or Blu-ray release.

 

Since we have the complete LLLR release, and the isolated score from the Theatrical Blu-ray / 4K release, it's really not a big worry for me.

 

If they do an isolated score release with this, it'll be pretty cool to see how the DE trims work with the score edited into the more tightly edited sequences in the DE.

[1977 1,743]

11 hours ago, OneBuckFilms said:

If they do an isolated score release with this, it'll be pretty cool to see how the DE trims work with the score edited into the more tightly edited sequences in the DE.

 

I'm hopeful the producers of this DE might rethink the decision to trim any music and rather rejig the visuals to match the untruncated score - which is to me the absolute highlight of the movie.

 

15 hours ago, Jay said:

I like JTWFan77's recent changing avatars

 

Watch this space

[crumbs 14,316]

Is it possible for LLL to reissue the 3CD set timed with the release of this remaster? Or it's simply impossible to license more units of that assembly due to stupid AFM rules?

[Tallguy 3,389]

1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

I'm hopeful the producers of this DE might rethink the decision to trim any music and rather rejig the visuals to match the untruncated score - which is to me the absolute highlight of the movie.

 

 

Well, when they did the 2001 edit with Wise and Goldsmith, Goldsmith said that he scored scenes like The Cloud with the intention that his music could be edited to fit and he sounded surprised that it never was.

[OneBuckFilms 319]

2 hours ago, JTWfan77 said:

 

I'm hopeful the producers of this DE might rethink the decision to trim any music and rather rejig the visuals to match the untruncated score - which is to me the absolute highlight of the movie.

 

 

Watch this space

 

I think the DE restoration is likely to mirror what they did in 2001 cut wise, since it is a recreation of what Robert Wise wanted as his cut of the film, which could not be done in 1979 due to a lack of time before the release date, and the lack of a preview.

 

Everything that was done was to complete what Robert Wise considered an incomplete film.

[SyncMan 314]

On 27/01/2022 at 5:29 PM, Tom Guernsey said:

here's hoping it one day gets a live to picture performance of Jerry's stupendous score, if any Star Trek movie would work that way, this is it. Especially with the picture looking amazing.

In FSM’s LLL 2022 ST-TMP 2-CD reissue thread...

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?threadID=146921&forumID=1&archive=0&pageID=3&r=331#bottom

 

…when Mike M. was responding to questions from forum members about the CD reissue of ‘Star Trek-The Motion Picture’, one member asked if there was a LTP concert in the works.  He didn’t respond to that.

 

This reminds about the time, 2 years ago, when LLL’s Superman 3-CD set came out and Mike M. was answering technical questions about that.  A question was raised about whether an LTP concert for that film was being considered and Mike M. didn’t respond to that, either. 

 

https://filmscoremonthly.com/board/posts.cfm?forumID=1&pageID=2&threadID=134366&archive=0

 

Shortly their after, Mike M. appeared on ‘The Legacy of John Williams’ podcast, promoting that CD, where he mentioned that the film’s LTP concert was ‘being considered’.

 

The Superman LTP concert was officially posted on 'Film Concerts Live's roster on August 2019.

 

Based on Mike M's actions from two years ago, I’m suggesting that an LTP concert of ‘Star Trek: TMP’ is, at least, being considered but Mike M. is being very careful about not revealing, even, any progress details until this concert is actually going to happen.

 

And if he gives interviews of the CD reissue either in print or on podcasts, I doubt that he’ll repeat the move he did on Maurizio’s podcast by mentioning any progress on a possible LTP concert.

[Jay 37,364]

Coming Tuesday, April 5th, to Paramount+!

 

 

https://blog.trekcore.com/2022/03/remastered-star-trek-the-motion-picture-directors-edition-coming-to-paramount-on-april-5/

[Tallguy 3,389]

Bad links all around. Maybe a premature announcement? 

[Jay 37,364]

Yea I watched the video, it was working fine when I posted it, then got set to private minutes later.

 

Surely everything will be back up at some point today, or at least at some point this week

[Pellaeon 593]

[Tallguy 3,389]

So everything is... Fein. 

[Bespin 8,482]

Is it the version with some redone Special Effects?

 

Did they add a plot this time?

 

[Jay 37,364]

The 2001 Director's cut added back in footage that had been filmed in 1979 but cut from the theatrical version, removed footage that was in the theatrical to improve pacing, many effects shots were added/changed, and an entirely new sound mix was created for it with new/different sound effects at times.

 

This thread is about a new 4K restoration of that 2001 Director's Cut, which involved re-rendering every CGI shot from 2001 anew in 4K (or more likely 8K) since they only rendered them in 480p in 2001.

[Bespin 8,482]

Well, I just wanted to say that it's a lot of effort for a movie that still has no plot!

[Jay 37,364]

The plot's alright

[Andy 4,128]

I adore this motion picture.  It just moves slowly, that's all.  There are plenty of modern films people love with languid pacing and even longer running times.

 

It's just really cool science fiction from a great era for the genre, and it is so boldly anti-Star Wars toned in its attempt to distinguish itself.

 

Spock (and to a lesser degree, Kirk) has a fantastic character arc in this motion picture.

[Jay 37,364]

So why the hell did Paramount get cold feet about announcing today after they initially did? 

[Andy 4,128]

I don't know.  It's weird isn't it?  Maybe they're keeping with tradition and still working on it until the very last minute before release.  Maybe there was some small error in the trailer that somebody flagged.

[Jay 37,364]

I imagine the real answer is some boring corporate synergy thing. 

[Andy 4,128]

Nope.  Mike Matessino is still flipping a coin over whether to open the Main Title with a hard snare or soft drum.

[Jay 37,364]

Someone saved the trailer when it was up, and put it on twitter 

 

 

 

[Manakin Skywalker 4,893]

Please release on physical media, please release on physical media, please release on physical media... 🤞

[crocodile 8,012]

13 hours ago, Bespin said:

Well, I just wanted to say that it's a lot of effort for a movie that still has no plot!

It's still the most Star Trek of all the Star Trek movies. It's clunky but utterly charming. It has a whimsical heart and a spirit of true s-f.

 

I wonder how this is going to compare to the recent 4K release of the theatrical cut.

 

Karol

[Holko 9,526]

It's a feature-length TOS episode with a big effects and score budget!

[Jurassic Shark 12,076]

8 hours ago, Andy said:

I don't know.  It's weird isn't it?  Maybe they're keeping with tradition and still working on it until the very last minute before release.  Maybe there was some small error in the trailer that somebody flagged.

 

They figured they need 20 more years to get it right.

[Andy 4,128]

7 hours ago, Manakin Skywalker said:

Please release on physical media, please release on physical media, please release on physical media... 🤞

 

I'm almost certain that is the plan.  Everything I've heard says Paramount's exclusive streaming window is part of the deal.  Most people are speculating this Christmas for a UHD release.