lairdo 726 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 20 hours ago, rough cut said: Strange they didn’t include it in the audio portion. I guess they didn’t want to “confuse” the average listener who might be skimming the track list - since there’s an album with the same name with JW/Mutter - that this release would be too similar to that. And by having fewer tracks put the concerto more in focus. But it’s strange. Even stranger is that the track is listed with the fine print of (video only) on the back cover. It's not a space issue on the disc either. There is still plenty of room. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 30, 2022 Share Posted August 30, 2022 It feels like a (bad) studio decision. [Dialogue between executive and assistant, while compiling the release at DG] E: “Is this release too similar to the previous one?” A: “Which one?” E: “The red one, you know, Across The Stars?” A: “Why do you figure?” E: “Well it looks like almost like a bonus disc to that one…” A: ??? E: “Too many similar tracks. Just look at it!” A: “It’s really only the one track…” E: - “Yeah, but it’s the title track!” A: “There’s space though… and it’s not really the same recording. Not even the same arrangement…” E: “Our buyers won’t know that by just looking at the track list! No, that’s it. I’m calling it! It’s off the album!” [Assistant obeys but sneakily puts it in the video portion since that doesn’t explicitly go against the his instructions] BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 On 26/8/2022 at 12:17 AM, Amer said: In my haste of ordering this from Presto I forgot to add my city in the mailing address. So I had to email them to fix the error I made. As Jim said they have excellent service, I’m hoping they will revert to my query on Monday. The order confirmation however mentioned that my order will ship by 1st September. So hopefully it will be back in stock and ship to my fully updated address. Just got my update from Presto. They fixed my shipping address. I suppose their customer service is legendary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted August 31, 2022 Share Posted August 31, 2022 On 30/08/2022 at 2:02 AM, rough cut said: It feels like a (bad) studio decision. [Dialogue between executive and assistant, while compiling the release at DG] E: “Is this release too similar to the previous one?” A: “Which one?” E: “The red one, you know, Across The Stars?” A: “Why do you figure?” E: “Well it looks like almost like a bonus disc to that one…” A: ??? E: “Too many similar tracks. Just look at it!” A: “It’s really only the one track…” E: - “Yeah, but it’s the title track!” A: “There’s space though… and it’s not really the same recording. Not even the same arrangement…” E: “Our buyers won’t know that by just looking at the track list! No, that’s it. I’m calling it! It’s off the album!” [Assistant obeys but sneakily puts it in the video portion since that doesn’t explicitly go against the his instructions] The same office, two months later... A: "We've been offered some recordings from Emil Berliner Studios of Anne-Sophie Mutter live with the Vienna Philharmonic playing John Williams' second violin concerto, conducted by Williams himself. E: “Isn't this release too similar to the previous one?” A: “Which one?” E: “The blue one, you know, Violin Concerto No. 2 and selected film themes?” A: “Why do you figure?” E: “Well it looks almost like a bonus disc to that one…” A: ??? E: “Too many similar tracks. Just look at it!” A: “It’s really only the violin pieces…” E: - “Yeah, but it’s the same concerto!” A: “There’s space though for all violin pieces on one disc and the orchestral film music with VPO on a second disc… and it’s not really the same recording and not the same orchestra …we could do gold, live and limited editions, with and without speeches, and we could even produce direct-to-disc pressings and one-off master cuts...$$$!” E: “Our buyers won’t know that by just looking at the track list! No, that’s it. I’m calling it! The album is off!” rough cut and Tydirium 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Got a shipping delay message update from Presto : We regret that we have not been able to despatch your order, number 10124162, in the timescale originally quoted. However, we expect to do so within the next few days. Andy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted September 3, 2022 Share Posted September 3, 2022 Same here. All in good time. Now if only AmazonUK would ship my Star Trek TMP 4K Bluray. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 On 2/9/2022 at 8:57 PM, Amer said: Got a shipping delay message update from Presto : We regret that we have not been able to despatch your order, number 10124162, in the timescale originally quoted. However, we expect to do so within the next few days. Amazingly, my Presto basic shipping via RoyalMail (not tracked) made it in 8 days. Hope your ships out soon. Amer and Andy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 1 hour ago, lairdo said: Amazingly, my Presto basic shipping via RoyalMail (not tracked) made it in 8 days. Hope your ships out soon. I hope so too. Any idea if they will issue this on SACD as well? Although the Dolby Atmos set would be best substitute for the time being in multi channel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted September 5, 2022 Share Posted September 5, 2022 Amazon U.S. is now $26.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09Z7H6MW2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 Anne-Sophie Mutter & John Williams on the Boston Symphony Orchestra and Tanglewood (Episode 4) BB-8 and Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted September 6, 2022 Share Posted September 6, 2022 JW should become an ambassador for the environmental movement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 6, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted September 6, 2022 Just to confirm what has been clear from previous posts anyway: The version sold by Amazon.de (which I assume is the regular European release) is region free: BB-8, Andy and Smeltington 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 The box is slightly shorter than that of The Berlin Concert and has a different haptic quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 6 hours ago, BB-8 said: The box is slightly shorter than that of The Berlin Concert and has a different haptic quality. It's non-glossy and has the same height as the Vienna Blu-ray, which is indeed ever so slightly shorter than the Berlin one. Funny I never noticed that before, even though I have them both next to each other on my shelf. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted September 7, 2022 Share Posted September 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: It's non-glossy and has the same height as the Vienna Blu-ray, which is indeed ever so slightly shorter than the Berlin one. Funny I never noticed that before, even though I have them both next to each other on my shelf. These are the things that really matter in life and that cannot be reproduced via digital media (except for the exact quantitative measures). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve 593 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 Is it only me or do the videos from symphony hall look rather poor compared to the Tanglewood video and the other DG Williams releases? One front angle is somewhat shaky. And some orchestra sections were not shown at all (maybe due to the lack of cameras?). Also what irritates me a bit are the microphone cables that are above the orchestra. You can't see that in the Berlin Philharmonic, for example. IMO the older BPO videos from evening at pops look better than these new videos. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve said: Is it only me or do the videos from symphony hall look rather poor compared to the Tanglewood video and the other DG Williams releases? One front angle is somewhat shaky. And some orchestra sections were not shown at all (maybe due to the lack of cameras?). Also what irritates me a bit are the microphone cables that are above the orchestra. You can't see that in the Berlin Philharmonic, for example. IMO the older BPO videos from evening at pops look better than these new videos. Yeah, got the same impression. The camera work and editing of the intro welcoming JW is particularly messy, almost amateurish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted September 9, 2022 Share Posted September 9, 2022 The Vienna & Berlin photography and sound were Outstanding ! Even the Dudamel Conducted concert pales in comparasion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted September 15, 2022 Share Posted September 15, 2022 Finally got a shipping notice from Presto ! BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 15, 2022 Author Share Posted September 15, 2022 Me too! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 Mine's on the way too. Wizard! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted September 16, 2022 Share Posted September 16, 2022 I had forgotten to actually order one. Fixed that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 Just picked mine up from a local record shop - they’d had it delivered weeks ago, but work was preventing me getting to them. Maybe an argument in favour of ordering from bricks & mortar shops? Just listening to the van conc and everything’s lovely so far. At about 6:50, it looks like two oboists are pulling through their instruments which seems a bit odd. It’s quite an involved operation to do during a performance - I could understand one of them having something stuck, but two of them together is surprising. Anyone care to speculate why? Mark BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted September 17, 2022 Share Posted September 17, 2022 They were probably just taking advantage of an extended passage where they didn’t have to play anything so they could do a routine cleaning of the saliva and condensation that builds up in their instruments. Happens to all wind and brass instruments; brass instruments have a spit valve but winds usually pull a piece of cloth through. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted September 18, 2022 Share Posted September 18, 2022 Most woodwind instruments drain naturally and don’t need pulling through during a concert because they have a straight bore. Brass instruments have water keys because the turns in their tubes result in water building up and the instrument starts to gurgle if it isn’t drained regularly by the player. Anyway, I asked an oboist friend who said there’s a particular design of oboe which tends to get moisture buildup in the topmost hole in particular when playing in a high octave. It’s unpredictable, blocks the note and the only solution is to pull-through (which otherwise would not be done during a piece because it’s too time-consuming). He said it was unusual for two oboes to have it happen simultaneously, but not impossible. Mark Cerebral Cortex and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,113 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 And Finally my copy from Presto is here. Hope to visit it this weekend ! Andy and BB-8 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1,206 Posted September 23, 2022 Share Posted September 23, 2022 I got it too from Presto yesterday, love it!! Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 23, 2022 Author Share Posted September 23, 2022 My Presto copy hasn't arrived yet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 24, 2022 Share Posted September 24, 2022 On Amazon.ca they still write that the bluray is Region 2, so I didn't ordered it yet. Williams: Violin Concerto No. 2 & Selected Film Themes: Amazon.ca: Films et séries télévisées On 05/09/2022 at 11:23 AM, Dr. Rick said: Amazon U.S. is now $26.99 https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09Z7H6MW2 Even them specify the bluray is Region 2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Yeah, same Even if it's probably a mistake, it still seems risky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Well I sent a notice to Amazon.ca, just to ask them.. What's the goal of selling bluray specifying a wrong Region Code... On the disc image we see a Big 0... is it the right image? That's confusing... If you don't want to sell your products, that's a very good way to advert them I think... DG should check this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 24/09/2022 at 2:02 PM, Bespin said: Even them specify the bluray is Region 2. 4 minutes ago, Bespin said: What's the goal of selling bluray specifying a wrong Region Code... On the disc image we see a Big 0... is it the right image? There are no regions 2 or 0 for Blu-rays. Every DVD had a region code ranging from 1 to 7, or 0 to indicate all regions. Blu-rays only have three possible codes - A, B, and C. I don't remember the specifics, but A includes the USA (and presumably Canada), and B includes Europe. I believe I vaguely remember that a disc can have more than one code, e.g. A and B. Probably because of that, there is no separate code (like 0) for a region free Blu-ray disc. Rather, it's just without a region code. I assume the "0" you're talking about is the one printed on the disc itself in the photo at Amazon? That's "FSK 0" and doesn't indicate a region but the Freiwillige Selbstkontrolle rating, which is the German counterpart to the US MPAA rating - i.e. "0" simply means for all ages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 The Freewilly rating? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smeltington 1,441 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 47 minutes ago, Bespin said: If you don't want to sell your products, that's a very good way to advert them I think... DG should check this. Their carelessness is self-defeating. I would have ordered it already if it weren't for that notice. We need someone to be the guinea pig! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 On 24/9/2022 at 8:02 AM, Bespin said: On Amazon.ca they still write that the bluray is Region 2, so I didn't ordered it yet. Williams: Violin Concerto No. 2 & Selected Film Themes: Amazon.ca: Films et séries télévisées Even them specify the bluray is Region 2. I ordered it via Amazon. It is region-free. The back even says “All Regions.” Smeltington 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 It's not like if their warning was subtile! hehe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 29 minutes ago, Bespin said: It's not like if their warning was subtile! hehe I imagine their database entry for films has a region code flag, and as soon as it's set to something else than A or 2, that message is displayed. So it's very likely still just a wrongly filled region code entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 1 hour ago, JohnnyD said: I ordered it via Amazon. It is region-free. The back even says “All Regions.” I own it; I’ve watched it. The Amazon page has inaccurate information. The blu-ray is region-free. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Ok, I ordered it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 My copy arrived from Presto yesterday! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QuartalHarmony 543 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Mine very clearly states All Regions on the back: Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 So does mine I think there only is one version that's sold, and Amazon's page is just confusingly wrong about its region QuartalHarmony 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 That's not good for the sales! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted September 25, 2022 Author Share Posted September 25, 2022 Seriously! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 4,141 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 Amazon does that all the time for non US Titles. It’s likely an algorithm where they err on the side of region lock rather than deal with consumers returning incompatible discs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted September 25, 2022 Share Posted September 25, 2022 If there's a crucial information to give when you sell DVDs and Blurays online, it's the Region Code. Is it a kind of a nightmare? It's surely is. WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted October 7, 2022 Share Posted October 7, 2022 Do I'll watch it tonight or tomorrow morning? BB-8 and Amer 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted October 9, 2022 Share Posted October 9, 2022 Classic Monsters... Bespin and Chewy 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,482 Posted October 9, 2023 Share Posted October 9, 2023 Marion's Theme (From "Indiana Jones and the Raiders of the Lost Ark") Anne-Sophie Mutter Konzerthausorchester Berlin, Joana Mallwitz from 18:27 onwards: OPUS KLASSIK 2023 - Preisverleihung aus dem Konzerthaus Berlin - ZDFmediathek GerateWohl and michael_grig 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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