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TFA is criminally underrated, IMO. I do get why people write off the whole trilogy, but the “TFA is just an ANH clone” criticism doesn’t really bother me, or even really ring true.

TFA is criminally underrated, IMO. I do get why people write off the whole trilogy, but the “TFA is just an ANH clone” criticism doesn’t really bother me, or even really ring true.

If Lucas was still in charge he wouldn’t bother trying to justify Vader’s line in the TV show, he’d just go straight back to the original movie and change it to this.

TFA is criminally underrated, IMO. I do get why people write off the whole trilogy, but the “TFA is just an ANH clone” criticism doesn’t really bother me, or even really ring true.

TFA is criminally underrated, IMO. I do get why people write off the whole trilogy, but the “TFA is just an ANH clone” criticism doesn’t really bother me, or even really ring true.

I doubt younger members will fully appreciate my rather wistful point, but Star Wars originally held an almost supernaturally mystical status when it was part of the past classics pantheon of western cinema, an untouched one-off of a legendary trilogy, eminently looked back on as being the predominant science fiction phenomenon of the Reagan era. There were no sequels and none were ever really expected; and the fans, casuals and die-hards alike, were actually fine with that - it allowed the Luke Skywalker saga to "bed-in" and become entrenched as a major nostalgic mainstay of popular culture at the time and for almost fifteen years after: it was always just Star Wars, Empire Strikes Back and Return of the Jedi, and people would rewatch them over and over like Bond movies, like Bridge Over the River Kwai and The Great Escape. That's why they became endlessly quotable and constantly referenced everywhere. The Star Wars trilogy was a sacrosanct icon of American cinema, locked in time. 
 
Nowadays it's treated like the latest Assassin's Creed instalment, watered down to the point where the extraordinary "magic" has all but evaporated and been replaced with curdled cow's milk, to be forcibly twisted from the teat on demand, ready for the next "audience engagement". 
 
Disclosure: I really liked The Mandalorian overall, but that doesn't mean I don't also lament the changing and diminishing of Star Wars as a part of the untouched lexicon of exceptional cultural highlights. 
 
I sound like a jaded old superfan here, but the irony of my remarks is that I didn't even bother to watch it (the trilogy) till my late teens (the 90s), and whilst I enjoyed a short fad of personal fandom, I was never that into it after. Yet I had always appreciated its status and its impact. It makes me feel a little sad to see it's ongoing basardisation now, and this latest spin off may as well have been produced by Ubisoft. 
 
But I'm sure it'll be "fine". Though something else, something of abstract significance, shall nevertheless be lost. I guess time moves on. 

Discovery is more like Shitscovery, am I right? 

Yeah, a lot of people were like me and bailed on Kurtzman era Trek halfway through season 1 of Discovery.

You’ll love this. It’s the audience ratings of modern Trek from RottenTomatoes.
 
94% The Orville, Season 1 (9,049 votes)
93%
92%
91% Star Trek (250,000+ votes); The Orville, Season 2 (2,266 votes)
90%
89% Into Darkness (250,000+ votes)
88%
87%
86%
85%
84%
83%
82%
81%
80% Beyond (50,000+ votes); Lower Decks, Season 2 (148 votes)
79%
78%
77%
76%
75%
74% Prodigy, Season 1 (87 votes)
73%
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59%
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56%
55%
54% Picard, Season 1 (2,912 votes)
53%
52%
51% Lower Decks, Season 1 (685 votes)
50%
49% Discovery, Season 1 (9,049 votes)
48%
47%
46%
45%
44%
43%
42%
41%
40% Discovery, Season 3 (1,095 votes)
39%
38%
37%
36% Discovery, Season 2 (3,072 votes)
35%
34%
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22%
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20% Discovery, Season 4 (430 votes)
 
Damn!

You’ll love this. It’s the audience ratings of modern Trek from RottenTomatoes.
 
94% The Orville, Season 1 (9,049 votes)
93%
92%
91% Star Trek (250,000+ votes); The Orville, Season 2 (2,266 votes)
90%
89% Into Darkness (250,000+ votes)
88%
87%
86%
85%
84%
83%
82%
81%
80% Beyond (50,000+ votes); Lower Decks, Season 2 (148 votes)
79%
78%
77%
76%
75%
74% Prodigy, Season 1 (87 votes)
73%
72%
71%
70%
69%
68%
67%
66%
65%
64%
63%
62%
61%
60%
59%
58%
57%
56%
55%
54% Picard, Season 1 (2,912 votes)
53%
52%
51% Lower Decks, Season 1 (685 votes)
50%
49% Discovery, Season 1 (9,049 votes)
48%
47%
46%
45%
44%
43%
42%
41%
40% Discovery, Season 3 (1,095 votes)
39%
38%
37%
36% Discovery, Season 2 (3,072 votes)
35%
34%
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31%
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29%
28%
27%
26%
25%
24%
23%
22%
21%
20% Discovery, Season 4 (430 votes)
 
Damn!

We’ve actually rebooted the 1999 release, so now 2012 is actually in the future (or might never even happen in this timeline).

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

It sounds like it is different. It’s kind of weird, the way he talks about it, though, as if they are literally ignoring everything they have done since 1979 and doing this from scratch.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Not very well, probably.
 
 

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

Yes, do this, release the Williams Cut of TRoS.

It seems a beta is NOW out...

That’s it, blame the fans. How dare they react to trailers, discuss them, realign their expectations?
 
Anywho.
 
Looks to me like they negotiated the rights to do a “Young Aragorn” show and instead decided to do “Young Galadriel.” (Well, youngER.)

And "Young Elrond."
 
And they transferred the romantic angle that Arwen would have provided to the Young Aragorn premise to this Bronwyn lady (who I think looks neat) and Arondir, who had also clearly expropriated the "Legolas Superhero Moments"TM