Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 5 minutes ago, Tom Guernsey said: Burgon's score is indeed absolutely lovely; as far as I know there isn't any kind of official release, just the music featured on the Burgon compilation that Silva Screen put out a number of years ago. Happy to be corrected on this! That music getting released seems like it's the least likely to ever happen on my short list of Grails Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom Guernsey 2,286 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: That music getting released seems like it's the least likely to ever happen on my short list of Grails Sadly you’re probably right. Burgon isn’t exactly likely to be a big seller. His Robin Hood score is terrific too. Much more low key than most other efforts but really great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted March 23, 2022 Share Posted March 23, 2022 Both BRIDESHEAD REVISITED, and TINKER TAILOR SOLDIER SPY got released. I suppose that's something. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 The witches of Eastwick. What better way to get in JW mode for tonight's HP1 concert? The dance is SOOOOO delicious, although I don't know how I feel about repeating it twice. I love dry violin playing. And the ballroom sequence obviously. Don't love the muted sound of the recording though. JTN, Tom Guernsey and Bespin 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,372 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 I've come to never really enjoy the way JW will repeat entire cues on his OST albums. He's a genius of composition but not album programming bollemanneke, Tom Guernsey and filmmusic 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Repeating the opening track was a usefull filler for the B side of an LP! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 In The Patriot's OST, Williams could've included the Defeat at Charlestone and/or the North Star cues... But instead chose to fill disc space with a reprise of the main theme. That's one of the most egregious examples. bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Love that aspect of his albums. Gives them a neat sonata form (home-away-home again). JTN and bruce marshall 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I kind of get that, but it only works if, like I did this time, you split the album in two listens. Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Oh, now that we're on the subject, can anyone explain the connection between witches and fiddles to me? Incannus alluded to it in his HP1 analysis and I know there's a movie called The Witch's fiddle, but is that everything? Or do witches in folklore play violin? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The violin is devil's instrument in many old legends. In many old prints, Satan often appears playing the violin. For me, as living in Québec and having Christian and french France roots, I remember several legends who depict Satan playing music in dances to seduce people, he always plays the violin. “Where dance is found, there is the devil.” https://www.ozy.com/true-and-stories/why-the-devil-plays-the-fiddle/87458/ JTN and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,371 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 I think, it is because the violin or the sound is a symbol of seduction. That plays an important role why it gets related to "evil". bollemanneke and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER film is a precedent. Pagannini was accused of being The Devil! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Smaug The Iron 516 Posted March 24, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 24, 2022 How to Train your Dragon The Deluxe Edition by John Powell How to Train your Dragon 2 The Deluxe Edition by John Powell How to Train your Dragon The Hidden World OST by John Powell Tom Guernsey, Bespin, Raiders of the SoundtrArk and 3 others 2 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 Sleepy Hollow (my edit of the Intrada) Simply amazing. Gorgeous Gothica Elfmanica writing, restrained and quiet when need be, brainmeltingly over the top when need be, not dripping but flooding with atmosphere. Adore it. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 3 hours ago, bruce marshall said: DEVIL AND DANIEL WEBSTER film is a precedent. Pagannini was accused of being The Devil! He was called “The Devil’s Violinist”. There is a 2014 Paganini biopic titled that. 15 minutes ago, Holko said: Sleepy Hollow (my edit of the Intrada) Simply amazing. Gorgeous Gothica Elfmanica writing, restrained and quiet when need be, brainmeltingly over the top when need be, not dripping but flooding with atmosphere. Adore it. I LOVE that score. “Gothica Elfmanica” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 6 hours ago, Bespin said: The violin is devil's instrument in many old legends. More unnerving the 'The Omen' for me. Romão 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 24, 2022 Share Posted March 24, 2022 The devil and Daniel Webster by Herrmann... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post publicist 4,643 Posted March 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2022 Another JNH that seems lost in the shuffle. It's a charming, sometimes borderline Horner-esque celtic fairy tale score, think of his Disney scores coupled with something like 'Lady in the Water', with a unique interpretation of the score's ideas in a 8-minute Chieftains piece (The Water Horse Suite). The central cue is 'Swimming', an operatic piece fulfilling the same function as the first bike ride in E. T. and Howard rises to the task. The similarities do not end there: in the final action/resolution cues (Saving Crusoe, The Net, The Jump), the fast-paced action material (business as usual) is interrupted by the same kind of soaring, almost religious-sounding musical resolution, though it's much more fleeting here. Still, it was an unexpected surprise in 2007 and deserves a bigger spotlight next to his more well-known Disney scores of the era. Marian Schedenig, LSH and Thor 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Everyone should have at least the five iconic Miyazaki scores in their collection -- NAUSICAA, MY NEIGHBOUR TOTORO, PRINCESS MONONOKE, SPIRITED AWAY and this, KIKI'S DELIVERY SERVICE. KIKI is infused with middle-European sentiments (quite "Italian" in sound) which is so charming, it's to die for. Hisaishi is a bit on-the-nose sometimes (unless you go to other things, like the wonderful Kitano collabs), but that's part of the attraction. Not Mr. Big and Tom Guernsey 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I often find his music too simple. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I don't find his aforementioned Kitano scores particularly simple, for example. But to me, I love the simplicity and transparency of the Miyazaki scores. It's still very cleverly orchestrated; very late-romantic in style. It's rather refreshing. This 2003 James Cameron documentary score is not a McNeely title that fans come rushing to, and I can understand that due to its inclusion of pop and period music, but the original McNeely cues are lovely -- it has the DNA of the ethereal bits of Horner's score. Even a bit of synth, which is rare for Joel. I love it. Tom Guernsey 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,518 Posted March 25, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 25, 2022 I suppose this is a "kick" to the John Powell fan kids who grew up with his HTTYD scores as the best thing since sliced bread. This has always been my second favourite Powell score (after FACE/OFF), and it's from 1998. Great West Africa-West blends. I tend to prefer Powell pre-HTTYD, so sue me, you tiny wincy kids! JTN, publicist and KK 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Chicken Run is his best score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: Chicken Run is his best score. No, but it's probably top 10 to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I don't like either of them as much as I like Evolution Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 2 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Chicken Run is his best score. He co-composed it with Harry Gregson-Williams, so it's only half his. My favorite is X-Men: The Last Stand. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 24 minutes ago, Thor said: I suppose this is a "kick" to the John Powell fan kids who grew up with his HTTYD scores as the best thing since sliced bread. This has always been my second favourite Powell score (after FACE/OFF), and it's from 1998. Great West Africa-West blends. I tend to prefer Powell pre-HTTYD, so sue me, you tiny wincy kids! The 11-minute final race cue is a real winner, and the faux-ethnic style mixed with western composition techniques is really charming. One of my favourites from 1999, and yes, it doesn't suffer from Powell's more hyperactive later style. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Just now, JTW said: My favorite is X-Men: The Last Stand. I'm sure there were many co-composers there as well, credited or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: I'm sure there were many co-composers there as well, credited or not. Probably. But CHICKEN RUN had one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,518 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 3 minutes ago, publicist said: The 11-minute final race cue is a real winner, and the faux-ethnic style mixed with western composition techniques is really charming. One of my favourites from 1999, and yes, it doesn't suffer from Powell's more hyperactive later style. "Hyperactive" is a great adjective to use in this context. JTN and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 I listened to David Shire's score to PELHAM ONE TWO THREE today. I love the main theme, jazzy, cool and menacing. Marian Schedenig and Naïve Old Fart 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 For the newest Almodovar, Alberto Iglesias offers a musically sophisticated 27-minute suite that can be roughly described as inspired riffs on chamber music mixed with minimalist suspense that . It's nothing substantial, but not an unengaging listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 Almodavar made that film before Parallel Mothers - it (and its OST album) came out in 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4,643 Posted March 25, 2022 Share Posted March 25, 2022 It put it in here just for you, Jay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL w/full score. Proving once again , you don't have to write alot of notes to be effective. And, innovative orchestration counts for alot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted March 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2022 The New World by James Horner A magnificent emotional score. Simply Love it bruce marshall, Edmilson, LSH and 1 other 1 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 It’s old and new: Mark Isham’s LLL Edition of FIRE IN THE SKY. I need to watch the film, because it’s “scary music” which I’m sure works very well with the images. It’s an effective score. Mark Isham is an underrated composer. 16 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Chicken Run is his best score. John told me that he had the flu while they were writing the score in England at Aardman. But he loved the experience of working with HGW on the project and hopes to work with him again in the future. Maybe on the sequel coming out in 2023 on Netflix that Gregson-Williams is already attached to? Bespin and JNHFan2000 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I sure hope so, but doubt it will happen. 1 hour ago, JTW said: John told me Who are you, Hans Zimmer? bruce marshall 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crocodile 8,018 Posted March 26, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 26, 2022 The Last Duel by Harry Gregson-Williams. I have to say this is pretty good, more subtle and meditative sibling of Kingdom of Heaven. Other than Daniel Pemberton's All the Money In the World from a couple of years ago, it is definitely the strongest score to a Ridley Scott film since, well, Kingdom of Heaven. It navigates cleverly between the modern dour realism and something with a bit more colour. The relatively brief album means the score doesn't outstay its welcome. It's a win. Karol Raiders of the SoundtrArk, JNHFan2000 and JTN 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 2 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: I sure hope so, but doubt it will happen. Who are you, Hans Zimmer? Yes. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,084 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Cue rant. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 Rio 2 by John Powell A really fun score from Powell's BlueSky era JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 4 minutes ago, May the Force be with You said: Rio 2 by John Powell A really fun score from Powell's BlueSky era Which RIO score do you like more, 1 or 2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 I'm in a little "best-of"! JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,470 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 4 hours ago, May the Force be with You said: The New World by James Horner A magnificent emotional score. Simply Love it Indeed, it's a wonderful score JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTN 2,040 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 9 minutes ago, Bespin said: I'm in a little "best-of"! I haven’t listened to (or seen) ALIVE for a while, but the other two are fantastic. JNH is probably the most underappreciated composer. He should have dozens of awards by now (if they mattered). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 JNH received 7 Academy Award nominations so far, that's not bad, he'll not win his first one tonight (and strangely he was even not in nomination for 'Jungle Cruise'), but maybe next year! JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,551 Posted March 26, 2022 Share Posted March 26, 2022 9 hours ago, bruce marshall said: DAY THE EARTH STOOD STILL w/full score. Proving once again; you don't have to write a lot of notes to be effective. And innovative orchestration counts for a lot! I assume that that is the 1951 version? 13 hours ago, Bespin said: SNOW FALLING ON CEDARS is a great score, from a fantastic film. The score is, probably, top-5 JNH, for me. Bespin and JTN 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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