What Is The Last Score You Listened To? (older scores)

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

21 minutes ago, Thor said:

What should be more shocking to film score fans is that it also beats out LOTR 2

 

Not at all shocking.

[Brónach 1,302]

31 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

Oodles more rewarding. What should be more shocking to film score fans is that it also beats out LOTR 2, HARRY POTTER 2, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, MINORITY REPORT, SIGNS, THE TIME MACHINE, SPIDER-MAN, MIB 2, THE BOURNE IDENTITY, ROAD TO PERDITION, FRIDA, FAR FROM HEAVEN, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN etc. etc. All superb scores, but not as good as WHALE RIDER, IMO. Outrageous, innit?

 

there's also 800 Bullets from that time

 

which is course like zero original but it completes the more quixotic scenes

 

[GerateWohl 4,370]

34 minutes ago, Thor said:

 

Oodles more rewarding. What should be more shocking to film score fans is that it also beats out LOTR 2, HARRY POTTER 2, ATTACK OF THE CLONES, MINORITY REPORT, SIGNS, THE TIME MACHINE, SPIDER-MAN, MIB 2, THE BOURNE IDENTITY, ROAD TO PERDITION, FRIDA, FAR FROM HEAVEN, CATCH ME IF YOU CAN etc. etc. All superb scores, but not as good as WHALE RIDER, IMO. Outrageous, innit?

It's not shocking. It is what I expect from a proper Thor ranking. I would rather be shocked If it wasn't that way.

[filmmusic 1,829]

52 minutes ago, Thor said:

(Look away, filmmusic, this is not for you!).

Oh, I started listening at spotify and then I saw your comment. Hehe.

No worries. I will listen a bit to see why do you think this is so good!

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

53 minutes ago, Thor said:

SIGNS

 

Here you're just pulling my leg.

[filmmusic 1,829]

27 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

Oh, I started listening at spotify and then I saw your comment. Hehe.

No worries. I will listen a bit to see why do you think this is so good!

Ok, I'm at track 12.

You like these dron-y scores, don't you?

But I think you exaggerated much about it being better than all those marvelous (at least the Williams ones) scores!

[Thor 7,508]

50 minutes ago, GerateWohl said:

It's not shocking. It is what I expect from a proper Thor ranking. I would rather be shocked If it wasn't that way.

 

LOL! Fair point.

 

20 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

Ok, I'm at track 12.

You like these dron-y scores, don't you?

 

I suppose, yes, although there's a difference between a drone and a beautiful texture. I love beautiful textures, not drones. Ethereal, explorative, cosmical, SLOW. Perhaps with some underlying psalm-like chord progressions, but not a prerequisite. Same with voices. Synth is preferred, but smaller, alternative acoustic ensembles can work too. Vangelis is the big hero when it comes to all of this, of course.

 

By the way, a great companion piece to WHALERIDER is Johan Söderqvist's gorgeous KON-TIKI. Might have more 'juice' for the "traditionalists" as well.

[Thor 7,508]

 

The third entry in Ratnam's loose "terrorist trilogy" from 1998, and an enormous hit in India -- both film and soundtrack. While not on the level of ROJA and BOMBAY, it's still a good song score with infectious, "modern" production values.

[Bespin 8,483]

#ClintMansell
🔢🧠⚗️💣🌌

 

[Tallguy 3,398]

It's a thumb in a pi!

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

Mathematics exam, Question 1:

Calculate the dimensions of Bespin's thumb, using π 

[Thor 7,508]

If you're talking about Mansell's PI, that's a brilliant score!

[filmmusic 1,829]

42 minutes ago, Thor said:

If you're talking about Mansell's PI, that's a brilliant score!

I like The Fountain!

Haven't heard of this one!

edit: I see only 3 tracks in the ost are Mansell's. The others are songs? or music written by other composers?

edit2: Ok, I listened a bit to the Mansell tracks. Not my thing, definitely! 

 

* * *

 

 

Quite interesting. I always like the percussive textures, because I find it very difficult to write for percussion.

 

 

I listened to the John Williams cues.

Apart from the main title that I dig, I didn't find anything else here that impressed me.

 

 

[Thor 7,508]

42 minutes ago, filmmusic said:

I like The Fountain!

Haven't heard of this one!

 

Excellent! Can I now swarm you with recommendations, like MOON, BLACK SWAN, STOKER, NOAH, BLACK MIRROR: SAN JUNIPERO, MUTE and SHE WILL?

[Bespin 8,483]

3 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Mathematics exam, Question 1:

Calculate the dimensions of Bespin's thumb, using π 

 

Bespin's Thumb length = π x (Number of times I've accidentally hit my thumb with a hammer)

 

Bespin's Thumb width = π x (Number of time I've sworn in pain due to hitting my thumb)

[filmmusic 1,829]

15 hours ago, Thor said:

 

Excellent! Can I now swarm you with recommendations, like MOON, BLACK SWAN, STOKER, NOAH, BLACK MIRROR: SAN JUNIPERO, MUTE and SHE WILL?

I have listened to Black Swan but isn't that based mostly on Swan Lake?

Anyway, I see you didn't mention Loving Vincent and I'm just listening at spotify.

I'm at first track and it already sounds nice to me...

 

[Bespin 8,483]

#HowardShore

🔐💰🔍💥🎭

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

The score, for THE SCORE, by Shore 

[Bespin 8,483]

#DannyElfman
🍫🎩🍭🏭🏆

 

[filmmusic 1,829]

 

Diamond Head: Nice orchestrations, interesting harmonies. Mostly source-like cues.

I don't suppose this is the complete score, right? I have seen the film but don't remember. I guess it needs an expansion?

Gone with the wave: Another nice loungy score. All cues are like source cues.

[Matt C 454]

Alien 3 - Elliot Goldenthal

 

It's quite impressive as a film score, capturing the bleak tone of the story effectively but still related to Goldsmith's score. It's more atonal and disturbing but his theme for Ripley is well-done but not fully enunciated until "Adagio." 

 

His "souring" of the 20th Century Fox fanfare is incredibly effective, with the last second note sustaining and builds into an atonal crescendo, establishes the tone of the score right off. It's a hard listen but Goldenthal fans should be rewarded. Goldsmith's mostly unused Alien score is much more rewarding with repeat listens.

[A24 4,338]

 

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

No thumb?

[A24 4,338]

Thumb?

 

Like this?

 

 

[Bespin 8,483]

#ThomasNewman

🛣️🔫😞💔👨‍👦🚗

 

[GerateWohl 4,370]

1 hour ago, AC1 said:

Thumb?

 

Like this?

No. Like this.

[A24 4,338]

2 hours ago, GerateWohl said:

No. Like this.

 

Only Bespin does that! He has a thumb fetish.

[Thor 7,508]

 

Although it isn't anywhere near the quality of the ol' Tangerine Dream score, I keep coming back to it to discover more values. It's actually quite decent. Carpenter & co. was an inspired choice for this 2022 remake (which I haven't yet seen).

[Andy 4,138]

Seeing John Carpenter and his boys perform live a couple years ago was one of the most unforgettable performances I’ve seen.   In a crumbling old movie theater no less. 

[Brónach 1,302]

 

[Bespin 8,483]

The earth may crumble. I'm watching this tonight.

 

 

[Andy 4,138]

They should do more of the Blu rays 

[Brónach 1,302]

...does Chris Young like metal?

 

 

[filmmusic 1,829]

 

A nice early minimalistic score by the composer.

Noted is the fact that Korzeniowski, as he said in his Facebook, didn't approve of this presentation. I cannot understand why. I didn't find any flaws in it, but I guess he knows better.

[filmmusic 1,829]

 

Listened to the first cd.

Ok, all sounds nice and all (textures, orchestrations etc.), but... where are the themes?

Such a film shouldn't be thematic as hell? I mean one theme at least for each character?

Unless there are themes and I didn't grab them?

I don't know, this is my usual problem with Kamen.

[thestat 348]

On 16/07/2023 at 1:06 AM, Matt C said:

Alien 3 - Elliot Goldenthal

 

It's quite impressive as a film score, capturing the bleak tone of the story effectively but still related to Goldsmith's score. It's more atonal and disturbing but his theme for Ripley is well-done but not fully enunciated until "Adagio." 

 

His "souring" of the 20th Century Fox fanfare is incredibly effective, with the last second note sustaining and builds into an atonal crescendo, establishes the tone of the score right off. It's a hard listen but Goldenthal fans should be rewarded. Goldsmith's mostly unused Alien score is much more rewarding with repeat listens.

Totally this, Goldenthal literally invented his own playbook and got away with it. I don't think fans now understand how awesome his role was in the early 1990s. From a marginal score on Pet Sematary to blasting it all out on Alien 3 and then becoming WB top guy in a few years, and WB more or less allowing him full reign on the craziest (and massively expensive) scores one can think of. No one has had that sort of form,

 

Demolition Man was step 2

 

Confronting the Chief is the trailer music for Men in Black. There's at least 4 minutes more of this goodness on the complete track. We just don't have it yet.

 

 

[Bespin 8,483]

#daftPunk

🏍️🔮💾👾🌌

 

[Schilkeman 964]

11 hours ago, filmmusic said:

 

Listened to the first cd.

Ok, all sounds nice and all (textures, orchestrations etc.), but... where are the themes?

Such a film shouldn't be thematic as hell? I mean one theme at least for each character?

Unless there are themes and I didn't grab them?

I don't know, this is my usual problem with Kamen.

There's more to music than melody. Kamen certainly wrote some memorable themes in his career, but his strength was always more in texture, orchestration, and re-contextualization of ideas.

[Raiders of the SoundtrArk 2,433]

7 hours ago, Bespin said:

#daftPunk

🏍️🔮💾👾🌌

 

One of the best score of the last decade. I'm going to play it right away

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

8 hours ago, Bespin said:

#daftPunk

🏍️🔮💾👾🌌

 

As stated, previously: one my favourite scores of this century, from one of my favourite films, from this century... and my favourite score from 2010.

[JTN 2,030]

Jerry Goldsmith does superhero. Love it.

[Naïve Old Fart 9,534]

Love it. So, so underrated... as is the film.

[filmmusic 1,829]

2 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Love it. So, so underrated... as is the film.

I'm just listening now too to the complete score.

Very good theme, and of course excellent writing in general by Goldsmith.

I haven't understood one thing though about this movie:

When we see the Shadow, it's another actor playing him and not Alec Baldwin, right?

Because he doesn't look alike. 

 

edit: Hmmm, I just read this trivia:

Quote

With the face makeup on as The Shadow, Lamont Cranston looks very similar to Alec Baldwin's brother, Billy

And it's true. I was thinking of Billy Baldwin too.

[JTN 2,030]

1 hour ago, filmmusic said:

I'm just listening now too to the complete score.

Yep, Intrada’s 2-CD edition. Great release. 

[filmmusic 1,829]

Ok, I'm just listening to Tenet at spotify.

I'm at track 4. Does the style change later? Because obviously this style isn't for me!

edit: I made it to track 11. Yeah, definitely not for me. I left.

[Tallguy 3,398]

4 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said:

Love it. So, so underrated... as is the film.

 

I keep wanting to love the film but I just don't. If it had been a little more Joe Johnston and a little less "we think this is like TIm Burton" it could have been a knockout. It already had the score.

 

I think if they hadn't had to have his face literally change I would have been more bought in. Parts of it I quite loved. It just had too much a foot in the 90's and not enough in the 30's.

 

That bass guitar "plunk" throughout the theme makes me grin every time.

 

The Phantom seems like a few notches closer on the dial. (But the score isn't as good.) Ah well, we'll always have The Rocketeer.

 

Of course if you're a special kind of nerd (and I knew many) you stand up and point when Tim Curry and Ian (WHO?) McKellan are on screen and shout "Mozart and Salieri!"

 

Speaking of "unknown" Ian McKellan:

 

21 hours ago, filmmusic said:

 

Listened to the first cd.

Ok, all sounds nice and all (textures, orchestrations etc.), but... where are the themes?

Such a film shouldn't be thematic as hell? I mean one theme at least for each character?

Unless there are themes and I didn't grab them?

I don't know, this is my usual problem with Kamen.

 

There are definitely themes. Maybe not for every character. (Would Cyclops be kind of one note?) I love his Logan and Rogue theme. But then I also loved it the first time in Mr. Hollands Opus.

[HunterTech 994]

I personally find X-Men to be a very motivic score, since it definitely has a set of recurring ideas that it plays around with. However, given the supposed production woes Kamen went through on the project, it's fairly clear to me that it doesn't come together as narratively as it should. Hell, I still wonder if the score is technically unfinished based on a few key things I noticed (though there's no knowing unless there ends up being a re-release with the MK Estate involved).

 

Given it was released in something of a transition phase for Hollywood blockbuster scores, it does blur the line a bit between traditional writing and what you can accomplish digitally. I imagine it's a large part of why later attempts in a similar vein like the TDK trilogy struggle to connect for some, since its methodology approaches things very differently despite still using several of the basics. So while I know it isn't for everyone, I do think it is more interesting than is often given credit for.

 

As for The Shadow, I'm not really familiar with it yet, but it is responsible for perhaps my favorite recent purchase, as I managed to find the Intrada release at a Book Off for 5 freaking dollars. Given the prices it fetches for these days, it's honestly a miracle.

 

[Andy 4,138]

Nice pick up!  I missed the Shadow and regret it.  Someone needs to explain to me how if CDs are obsolete and no one listens to them anymore why there is such a market for OOP scores with stratospheric prices. 

[Thor 7,508]

 

I find it interesting how this score was in my "awareness zone" for 20+ years, but I only acquired it and properly listened to it a few years ago. And then, BOOM! -- it goes straight into my top 3 favourite Newman scores. I talk a little bit about why in this conversation article (google translated).

[Jurassic Shark 12,079]

Great article!