Uni 306 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Someone in the "memorial" thread suggested we do our JWFan patented Top 10 poll for Mr. Horner, the same one we've done for Mr. Williams twice. No one else has volunteered yet to spearhead the project, and since I was always disappointed I couldn't put together the Film Composers' World Cup, I might as well be the one to kick things off on this.The process should be familiar enough by now: Post your ten favorite James Horner scores (or the ones you consider his best) in order, starting with your favorite first, second favorite next, etc. You can number them if you like; if you don't, I'll assume the order you place them in is how you want them scored. That's pretty much it. If you can't come up with ten you've heard, list as many as you know and like; the top spot will still be given the same score as anyone else's.We'll run this for a week or two. I'll try to keep up with the tabulation, so it doesn't take too long after time has been called to publish the results. (I haven't given deep thought to my own list yet, but I figured there's no reason not to let everyone start compiling their own.)One more thing: you're welcome to just post a list of titles if you'd like, but feel free to add some commentary on why you've chosen any or all of your scores, why you've ordered them the way you have, or even just how you react to the music when you hear it. It would make another nice memoriam for the man if we expanded on how each of us reached our conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 31058 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Actually I volunteered to do it in the thread and said I was purposely waiting a little longer before starting it But this is good, now I don't have to do the work I won't be able to make a top ten list till I make my way through more of his discography. Only relistened to maybe 10 scores since it happened... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Whoops--missed that part! Sorry. Didn't mean to step on your toes. I just recall it being mentioned, and I didn't want to have to go back through and search for it.I figured we might take a little longer with this one for that reason. But I also figured that if people are listening through his works right now anyway, they might keep this ulterior motive bookmarked in the back of their mind while they're doing it.And there's no reason people can't talk their way through it here, too--sort of let the discussion help gel things in their decision-making process. I actually think we could probably guess what scores will comprise the list right now; it's the order that'll be really interesting. Frankly, I know most of what'll be on my own list already . . . but choosing which one gets the top spot? That's going to take a little time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy4 152 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) Titanic2) Star Trek II: Wrath of Khan3) Bicentennial Man4) A Beautiful Mind5) Field of Dreams6) Casper7) Avatar8) Braveheart9) Apollo 1310) Star Trek III: Search for Spock Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1853 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I don't want to do a top 10 list yet but let me say how organic the Aliens score is. The music and sound effects begins and ends where? It's is brilliant and I don't think I am insulting a great Alien score by JG when I say Aliens is an even better score.I've never seen or heard Braveheart but I will listen soon after I have digested on Aliens.I can probably agree with I4 that Ti-Tanic is #1. It has earned it's place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diego 21 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. Willow2. Rocketeer3. Land Before Time4. Krull5. Apollo 136. Star Trek II7. Mask of Zorro8. An American Tail9. Something Wicked this Way Comes10. Battle Beyond the StarsQuite hard, except for the first 4 it could probably change if asked tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HornerIsTheMan 4 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1.) Titanic2.) Braveheart3.) Legends of the Fall4.) The Land Before Time5.) Balto6.) The Mask of Zorro7.) The Perfect Storm8.) The Rocketeer9.) Glory10.) The PagemasterVery difficult, I left out a lot of great scores. The first four are pretty interchangeable, but Titanic was the first film score I fell in love with, so it has a special place in my heart. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4232 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) Apollo 132) Braveheart3) The Perfect Storm4) Brainstorm5) The Name of the Rose6) Star Trek III: The Search For Spock7) Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan8) Titanic9) The New World10) Cocoon Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 882 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) Avatar2) Titanic3)Sneakers4)The Amazing Spider-Man5)Wolf Totem6)The Land Before Time7)The House of Sand and Fog8)Star Trek 29)Black Gold10)Legends of the Fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3182 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 KrullCocoonStar Trek 2Project XLand Before TimeAn American TailRocketeerSpitfire GrillBlack GoldBatteries not Included Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 COCOONBRAVEHEARTPERFECT STORMIRISLAND BEFORE TIMENEW WORLDLEGENDS OF THE FALLFOUR FEATHERSWILLOWNAME OF THE ROSE(AN AMERICAN TAIL) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gnome in Plaid 213 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. The Land Before Time2. Apollo 133. House of Sand and Fog4. Braveheart5. The Spitfire Grill6. Black Gold7. Willow8. Humanoids from the Deep9. For Greater Glory10. The Life Before Her Eyes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5811 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 My list (I don't have the stamina to add a lot of reasoning right now):1. THE BOY IN THE STRIPED PYJAMAS2. Avatar3. Aliens4. Legends of the Fall5. Apollo 136. The Rocketeer7. Braveheart8. Titanic9. The Mask of Zorro10. An American TailNote that this is just today. It might change tomorrow, especially because I've recently acquired a lot more Horners to familiarize myself with; that may easily take a place in the top 10. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 You can change your mind right up until the polls close (which is at least a week or two away, so give those new scores a listen in the meantime). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4232 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Not a huge consensus so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5569 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 In no particular order:Star Trek II The Wrath of KhanKrullWillowBraveheartApollo 13Legends of the FallRocketeerAll the King's MenGloryThe Spitfire Grill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6867 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. Brainstorm (it's probably his most evocative score, both terrifying and wondrous)2. Apollo 13 (my first Horner album, one of his most memorable and inspiring themes)3. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock (big fan of the Spock and Spock/Kirk material, which this sequel has got in spades)4. Cocoon (perfectly balanced, with light comedy, Horner sappiness and high s-f adventure)5. The Legend of Zorro (actually both Zorro scores but this one is superior in many ways; he perectly nailed the character)6. All the King's Men (weighty and conflicted, it's something else among Horner's drama works; plus, he orchestrated it on his own)7. The Missing (of all the ethnic epics he's done, this is my favourite - combines many of the elements into one successful package)8. Gorky Park (another interesting drama score, very different)9. The Boy in Striped Pajamas (it's a non-cliched scores about Jewish Holocaust that doesn't resort to usual ethnic colours)10. The Amazing Spider-Man (it's one of the few modern superhero action scores that puts character first and actually "gets" Peter Parker; it almost made the film look good and had a kick ass memorable theme).My Sneakers album is on the way so I can't put it on this list yet (if it is indeed that good). Might change it later on, we'll see.There are many scores that could have been on this list but I wanted to present some of my personal favourite that showcase Horner's versatility. The Name of the Rose is an excellent one but I've only heard it in the film and it's probably not a terribly good listen on its own (I'm guessing). That's why it's not here. Black Gold was high up, so were Flightplan, Willow, The Perfect Storm and Krull.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4974 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 In casual order:Star Trek II: The Wrath Of KhanCocoonBrainstormThe Journey of Natty GannRocketeerBraveheartIrisApollo 13BaltoAn American Tail Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Not a huge consensus so far.Which is interesting, because I thought there would be. (I just figured everyone would agree with my choices, y'know. . . ?)In casual order:They won't be scored casually. STII will get the highest score on your list, followed by Cocoon, then Brainstorm, etc. If you have qualms about that, you'll want to rethink that ordering. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1) The Land Before Time - my first Horner score, and still my favourite2) Apollo 133) Willow4) Brainstorm5) Cocoon6) Braveheart7) Iris8) The Missing - this is my Legends of the Fall, but with a more balanced and effective package than the celebrated score9) The Four Feathers - Horner's instincts for ethnic writing were at his sharpest here10) The New World Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
publicist 4635 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I might add that while i think LEGENDS OF THE FALL as a proper score is a teensy bit on the mushy side it has three themes that Horner never bettered, at least in this idiom. Unfortunately the concert performances often omit the proper main theme for the first 1:20 of THE LUDLOWS on repeat which is a shame: it's Horner at his most ripe and i don't even think Williams has a match on him there. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1971 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 CocoonApollo 13IrisThe Land Before TimeLegends of the FallWillowThe New WorldSneakersFour FeathersThe Dresser Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheTennisBallKid 11 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Legends of the Fall is mushy, schmaltzy, melodrama bumped up to 11 (or 12), but nobody did that like you, James. The Ludlows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6227 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 SneakersStar Trek IICocoonWillowThe RocketeerBrainstormAliensCasperStar Trek IIIKrull Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 5811 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Didn't you get SNEAKERS signed when we had our session with Horner, Marian? I seem to recall so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted June 30, 2015 Author Share Posted June 30, 2015 Wow . . . starting to tabulate things, and seeing some very interesting things. The score currently in 2nd-place is a mind-blower (well, to me, anyway), and some of the scores I thought were shoe-ins for the final 10 are nowhere near the top, at least not yet. This is turning out a lot differently than I figured it would—which is making it that much more fun!In no particular order:This is probably understood, but just in case . . . again, I can't make up the order, so it goes by the order you listed them in. Also, any "ties" will be counted as holding a single place in line, pushing the last score(s) off the end of the list. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6227 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Didn't you get SNEAKERS signed when we had our session with Horner, Marian? I seem to recall so.Absolutely. I even managed to form enough coherent words to tell him that it's my favourite of his scores. Hitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. Braveheart2. Krull3. Legends of the Fall4. Willow5. Titanic6. The Perfect Storm7. The Mask of Zorro8. The Land Before Time9. The Rocketeer10. Honey I Shrunk the KidsThe first 5 are set in stone.The final 5 were tough to choose from, as there are a couple of other ones I rate just as highly, however the ones I chose are be the ones I enjoy the most from start to end. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. Titanic2. Braveheart3. Legends of the Fall4. The Perfect Storm5. Apollo 136. Avatar7. Bicentennial Man8. A Beautiful Mind9. Willow10. Field of Dreams HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitch 57 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 1. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan (the score that started it all for me)2. Field of Dreams3. Krull4. The Name of the Rose (love his "borrowing" of Vaughn-Williams "Fantasia on a theme of Thomas Tallis" during the Epilogue/End Titles)5. Aliens6. The Man without a Face7. In Country8. To Gillian...on her 37th Birthday9. Legends of the Fall (the score that was robbed of an Oscar nomination)10. Class Action (very under-rated and his "Memories of Mom" track really tugs at the heart strings)As you can see from my list, I have delved into some of the gentler scores of James Horner as I find them to be his most intimate. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3251 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 I might add that while i think LEGENDS OF THE FALL as a proper score is a teensy bit on the mushy side it has three themes that Horner never bettered, at least in this idiom. Unfortunately the concert performances often omit the proper main theme for the first 1:20 of THE LUDLOWS on repeat which is a shame: it's Horner at his most ripe and i don't even think Williams has a match on him there.Agreed. I don't dispute it's merit. It's a very fine score in the end that really helped define much of Horner's sound in the years that followed. I simply prefer The Missing as a whole, which I find a superior package of ideas.Just heard Iris by the way. Lovely stuff. Might put in my top 10 even, can I revise my list Uni? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joni Wiljami 1163 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 An American TailWillowA Land Before TimeThe RocketeerCocoonA Beautiful Mind Hitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Andy 2236 Posted June 30, 2015 Share Posted June 30, 2015 Star Trek IIRocketeerStar Trek IIIAliensBattle Beyond the StarsCocoonJourney of Natty GannSomething Wicked This Way ComesWillowProject X Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruckhorn 91 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Star Trek IIWillowThe Land Before TimeStar Trek IIILegends of the FallKrullCocoonAn American TailThe RocketeerGlory Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Uni 306 Posted July 1, 2015 Author Share Posted July 1, 2015 Getting ready to catch up on the last few entries. Before I do so—and see what changes it brings—I can report that the top 3 scores are separated by only 1 point apiece at the moment, as are the last 4 on the list. The surprise sleeper (again, in my mind at least) has dropped from 2nd to 4th, but is still contending strong. And one of the scores I thought would be in the top 10 for sure only has a handful of points so far.So nothing's been decided yet, and there's plenty of opportunity for some shifting to come.Just heard Iris by the way. Lovely stuff. Might put in my top 10 even, can I revise my list Uni?Of course! Anyone can submit changes right up to the end—which still hasn't been absolutely determined yet. (I'll start a countdown in days when it seems like it's time to wrap things up.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2067 Posted July 1, 2015 Share Posted July 1, 2015 Apollo 13 The Land Before Time Sneakers Brainstorm Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan Willow The Man Without a Face The Rocketeer The New World Legends of the Fall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7770 Posted July 3, 2015 Share Posted July 3, 2015 1. Star Trek III: The Search for Spock2. Star Trek II: The Wrath of Khan3. Aliens4. Krull5. Battle Beyond the Stars6. The Mask of Zorro7. The Legend of Zorro8. The Rocketeer9. Titanic10. The Amazing Spider-Man Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balto's Claws 2 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Horner is easily one of my favorite composers. I don't care that some of his music sounds like other music, or that he requotes Prokofiev often. Everyone has their own way to express emotion. Anyway, here are my top 10:1.) "The Land Before Time" - my first introduction to Horner, and my #1 Horner score2.) "Titanic"3.) "Balto"4.) "Legends of the Fall"5.) "An American Tail"6.) "Braveheart"7.) "Willow"8.) "The Perfect Storm"9.) "Once Upon a Forest"10.) "Jumanji" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6478 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Does the Universal Pictures 75th Anniversary fanfare count? Because it would be in my list. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 6867 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Does the Universal Pictures 75th Anniversary fanfare count? Because it would be in my list.I actually prefer it to Goldsmith's (which is great too).Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6478 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 Goldsmith's is good, of course. But Horner's, man...I could listen to that one all day. I had it recorded on cassette with my Talkboy from Home Alone 2, from the beginning of the Back to the Future Part III VHS. HornerIsTheMan 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hlao-roo 388 Posted July 4, 2015 Share Posted July 4, 2015 1. Apollo 132. The Spitfire Grill3. The Land Before Time4. The Journey of Natty Gann5. Sneakers6. An American Tail: Fievel Goes West7. The Mask of Zorro8. Legends of the Fall9. The Rocketeer10. Searching for Bobby Fischer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Does the Universal Pictures 75th Anniversary fanfare count? Because it would be in my list.I actually prefer it to Goldsmith's (which is great too).KarolFor the longest time I had no idea these two fanfares were Jerry's and James'. The perfect openings for any film IMO.Tyler copying Jerry is testament to his inability to come up with something similarly awesome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Tyler didn't copy Goldsmith. He re orchestrated and rerecorded it a few years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DreamTheater 131 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Excuse me then for not wording it correctly. He recycled it, and made it sound generic.Because Jerrald's fanfare was a hundred times better than anything he would've come up with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 He wasn't asked to come up with a new fanfare. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4232 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah, but if he had been, it would have been shit unfit to even vibrate the same air that was once breathed by Goldsmith! Because Tyler sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10254 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 His Marvel fanfare is pretty good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4232 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 Yeah I like some of his stuff. He has some abilities, and maybe just not enough chances to really utilize them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 6227 Posted July 7, 2015 Share Posted July 7, 2015 He wasn't asked to come up with a new fanfare.But he still ruined Goldsmith's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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