Thor 7,506 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Christ Almighty! No previous thread on this either? This is one of my alltime favourite Williams scores (and as such one of my alltime favourite soundtracks in general). "Angela's Prayer" leaves me floored every time I hear it -- the quintessential example of what I call JW's "religious sound" and my primary reason for having him as my favourite composer -- but there are so many other great aspects to it too. Sometimes playful and childlike (harps or pizzicato strings), but mostly extremely spiritual, with gorgeous pastoral stretches in the style of Vaughan Williams. The film is so-so; it tries a little too hard. Not one of Parker's best films. But not bad either. Incanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Which edition JWfaners prefers, the one with narration, or the one without narration? Angela's Ashes [Music From The Motion Picture] (1999, Sony Music Soundtrax, SK 89009; Erdody, Turovsky, Ellis, Kerber, Williams) Theme From Angela's Ashes; My Story; Angela's Prayer; My Dad's Stories; Lord, Why Do You Want The Wee Children?; Plenty Of Fish And Chips In Heaven; The Dipsey Doodle; The Lanes Of Limerick; Looking For Work; Pennies From Heaven; My Mother Begging; If I Were In America; Delivering Telegrams; I Think Of Theresa; Angels Never Cough; Watching The Eclipse; Back To America; Angela's Ashes Reprise. (Released in Europe in 1999 without the narration, Decca, 466 761-2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 I live in Europe, so I never heard the one with the narration. But I do remember there being a lot of fuss about it at the time. Dialogue on soundtracks sucks. Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I agree with every single word Thor just wrote! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Actually I bought the version without narration at first, thinking the other version with narration was really odd. And then I bought the version with narration and it turned out to be my favorite version. It's really moving. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Incorrect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 The one with narration was alailable in the UK, as an import, in 1999, then the one without narration was released, in 2000. I don't mind either. I prefer the "brown" cover: it reflects one of the main themes of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 5 minutes ago, Richard said: (...) the one without narration was released, in 2000. It was released in 1999 too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Maybe in the USA, Bes, but in the UK, we didn't get the "no narration" OST until the film was released, in January (or was it February?) 2000. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightscape94 965 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 It's nearly impossible not to like or love this score. Full of classic Williams lush string writing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 1 hour ago, Richard said: Maybe in the USA, Bes, but in the UK, we didn't get the "no narration" OST until the film was released, in January (or was it February?) 2000. It may happen for releases that occurs at the begining of the year. On my Decca CD, it's printed 1999. It's 1999 everywhere, on discogs, on http://www.soundtrackcollector.com, everywhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted March 25, 2017 Author Share Posted March 25, 2017 49 minutes ago, nightscape94 said: It's nearly impossible not to like or love this score. Full of classic Williams lush string writing. Indeed. Which is why it is flabbergasting to me why it isn't talked about more often, or doesn't feature on more top 10 lists of Williams' scores. I sometimes feel that if it ain't STAR WARS or HARRY POTTER or INDIANA JONES or whatever (or STAR TREK, LOTR or other blockbusters and franchises), a lot of regulars here find it uninteresting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,350 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 My favourite Williams score, it was like Anakin's Theme/Anakin is Free stretched into an entire for me. I love how consistent it is, no "jump scares" like Memoirs or "tone" swings like his action work Thor and Once 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 I love The Lanes of Limerick and Back to America. So many gems in this score. And being a guitar player, I recall the main theme received a rendition on solo guitar in the film. Really wish that had been included on the soundtrack, alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 For those who don't know this superb recording narrated by the author of the novel, Frank McCourt himself... you can buy it on the bso.org website. With Frank McCourt Music from Angela's Ashes (2000) (2012, BSO Classics, Digital Release; McCourt, Boston Pops O/Williams) Music composed and conducted by John Williams; Narrated by Frank McCourt. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted March 25, 2017 Share Posted March 25, 2017 Yes this is perhaps my favourite John Williams score. Fantastic through and through and tugs at my soul strings with its sadness, beauty and hope. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 13 hours ago, Bespin said: Which edition JWfaners prefers, the one with narration, or the one without narration? Angela's Ashes [Music From The Motion Picture] (1999, Sony Music Soundtrax, SK 89009; Erdody, Turovsky, Ellis, Kerber, Williams) Theme From Angela's Ashes; My Story; Angela's Prayer; My Dad's Stories; Lord, Why Do You Want The Wee Children?; Plenty Of Fish And Chips In Heaven; The Dipsey Doodle; The Lanes Of Limerick; Looking For Work; Pennies From Heaven; My Mother Begging; If I Were In America; Delivering Telegrams; I Think Of Theresa; Angels Never Cough; Watching The Eclipse; Back To America; Angela's Ashes Reprise. (Released in Europe in 1999 without the narration, Decca, 466 761-2) There is no "War of the Worlds" release without narration, is there? I hate this fu...ing narration, but especially in "Angela's Ashes", because there are numberous titles with. I bought the album because of the music (which is great by the way and reminds me somehow of a mixture of "Munich" and "Schindler's List")! Luckily in this case there is a version without. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 26, 2017 Share Posted March 26, 2017 It's a beautiful score. As for the narration, I'm not sure why this is such a big deal. Both versions are available anyway and it's not like the dialogue is intrusive. It's the way Williams intended it to be heard on the OST. War of the Worlds is kind of an exception because the Morgan Freeman dialogue is awful and has nothing to do with the overall presentation of the OST. The guy's talking about aliens, which is followed by an hour of layers upon layers of atonality and dissonance. It lacks the charm of the sound effects in Earthquake or the beauty and sophistication of Angela's Ashes, which tells the story along with the music. It's kind of wonderful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I used to be dead-set against dialogue/narration in music, but I've really come around. I like this album a lot. Never heard the un-narrated album, but that's fine. As long as narration is clear and not hissy, it works for me as part of the music. See also: Williams' Heidi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 I love the suite of The Reivers with Burgess Meredith narrating, but that's a specific concert arrangement meant to tell a story through words and music, which is a little different I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted March 27, 2017 Share Posted March 27, 2017 Williams picked this film because he loved Frank McCourt's book, so it's not that strange he might have thought to put music behind words from the novel. In fact, he even prepared a beautiful concert suite for narrator and orchestra: Of course I'm glad he released an album without narration as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 On 3/25/2017 at 9:02 AM, Thor said: Christ Almighty! No previous thread on this either? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1752-angelas-ashes/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/1201-angelas-ashes/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/2115-angelas-ashes/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/3724-angelas-ashes-opinons-about-the-score/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/10602-angelas-ashes/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/11244-a-question-about-angelas-ashes-score/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/17942-rate-angelas-ashes/ http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/24082-duplicated-music-in-angelas-ashes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Not all of those were general threads about film and score (several had very specific sub questions), but yeah -- apparently there were a few! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 Just now, Thor said: Not all of those were general threads about film and score (several had very specific sub questions), but yeah -- apparently there were a few! How does this not count? http://www.jwfan.com/forums/index.php?/topic/17942-rate-angelas-ashes/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 That counts. Some of the others did not. In either case, it seems like I picked the "wrong" search function when I did this; the one that doesn't get any hits -- i.e. by searching directly in the field in the upper, right corner. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted September 11, 2017 Share Posted September 11, 2017 To find that, all I did was type "ashes" into that same search box you talked about, changing the dropdown from "This Topic" to "Topics". Then, when the results came in, I clicked "ashes in content titles only". That's it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted September 11, 2017 Author Share Posted September 11, 2017 Yup, I think I've gotten a hand on it by now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Popular Post BrotherSound 2,242 Posted May 24, 2021 Popular Post Share Posted May 24, 2021 Attn: @Jay@Falstaft@crumbs Did a bit of digging and found a few of the original cue titles in the GEMA Repertoire. Unfortunately, this is another score that replaces the original cue title if it’s used in an album track (plus “Part 1”, “Part 2”, etc. if it’s composed of more than one cue). 941838 Prologue 941846 My Story - Part 2 941847 Lord, Why Do You Want The Wee Children? - Part 2 941848 My Mother Begging - Part 1 941851 The River Shannon 941852 Lord, Why Do You Want The Wee Children? - Part 3 941855 Watching the Eclipse - Part 3 941856 My Mother Begging - Part 3 941857 Job Hunting - Version 1 941858 Plenty of Fish and Chips In Heaven - Part 1 941861 Looking for Work - Part 1 941862 Plenty Of Fish And Chips In Heaven - Part 3 941864 Angels Never Cough - Part 3 941865 Angels Never Cough - Part 2 941869 Grandma's Funeral - Version 2 941873 Watching the Eclipse - Part 1 941874 I Think Of Theresa - Part 1 941875 Thank You, St. Francis - Alt 941876 Looking for Work - Part 2 941877 Watching the Eclipse - Part 2 941880 Back To America - Part 1 The SABAM repertoire also has some timings: Angela's Ashes 3:25 [what would this be?] Angela's Ashes 6:41 [End Credits?] Angela's Ashes 15:09 [cues not on the album?] Angels Never Cough 1:50 Back To America 1:26 Lord, Why Do You Want The Wee Children? 3:20 My Mother Begging 1:56 My Story 2:46 Plenty of Fish and Chips In Heaven 0:51 Watching the Eclipse 2:54 So, if I understand this correctly, there’s a total of 40:18 of JW score in the film, of which 15:09 is unreleased. This one continues to grow on me, and with at least 15 minutes unreleased and no re-use fees to contend with, hopefully we’ll get an expansion before too long. Edmilson, crumbs, Falstaft and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig 1,120 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 @BrotherSound Thank you for this. So what does it mean that Part 1 of some titles are missing here? BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrotherSound 2,242 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 8 minutes ago, Ludwig said: So what does it mean that Part 1 of some titles are missing here? Each part is a cue or insert used for an OST track. So ‘Watching the Eclipse’, for example, is apparently comprised of three cues. However, since ‘Part 2’ is not on this list, that cue must not have been used anywhere in the film. Ludwig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 24, 2021 Share Posted May 24, 2021 On 3/25/2017 at 1:37 PM, Bespin said: For those who don't know this superb recording narrated by the author of the novel, Frank McCourt himself... you can buy it on the bso.org website. With Frank McCourt http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/images/disco/p_tanglewood75.jpg Music from Angela's Ashes (2000) (2012, BSO Classics, Digital Release; McCourt, Boston Pops O/Williams) Music composed and conducted by John Williams; Narrated by Frank McCourt. Link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Do I look like Google? Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bruce marshall 1,315 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 If the thread was titled " ANGELA'S ASHES Video Game" , it would be on.fire! 😝😅 Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 46 minutes ago, Bespin said: Do I look like Google? Why share that information and not provide a link? I looked all over BSO.org and could not find it. Hence, why I asked for a link. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thx99 1,740 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 @JohnnyD, it’s no longer available for purchase but here is the site via archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20120904052041/https://www.bso.org/Merchandise/Detail/44877 The audio sample still works!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Know 326 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Coincidence -- had a dream last night I was getting off a plane in Ireland, and my dream was scored with the beautiful finale cue "Back to America" from ANGELA'S ASHES. BrotherSound and thx99 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 Ireland? Really? Oh, well, I suppose someone has to go there. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 I remember noticing in the film a short solo guitar rendition of the main theme. I think towards the end of the film, but wow, that was over 20 years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: Ireland? Really? Oh, well, I suppose someone has to go there. In your his dreams! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyD 1,223 Posted May 25, 2021 Share Posted May 25, 2021 11 hours ago, thx99 said: @JohnnyD, it’s no longer available for purchase but here is the site via archive.org: https://web.archive.org/web/20120904052041/https://www.bso.org/Merchandise/Detail/44877 The audio sample still works!! Dang it! Is there someone who can PM me? I really wanted to get this. Shoot! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 I don't know where to post that. Maybe this question has already been answered, but has the content of the Suite from "Angela's Ashes" narrated by Frank McCourt been detailed? For example, what soundtrack cues could be equivalent to it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete 907 Posted May 22, 2023 Share Posted May 22, 2023 10 hours ago, Bespin said: I don't know where to post that. Maybe this question has already been answered, but has the content of the Suite from "Angela's Ashes" narrated by Frank McCourt been detailed? For example, what soundtrack cues could be equivalent to it? Unless I've since reneamed the pieces and did some editing, this is what's on my phone. A few pieces of mostly narration are missing as I didn't need them on my phone. What I have is 1. Angela's Ashes Theme 3. My Dad's Stories 5. The Lanes Of Limerick 7. Angela's Prayers 9. Instrumental - I haven't explored this, it's 1:32 long. It starts with harp and then cello enters. 11. Delivering Telegrams 12. Back to America I haven't explored the differences other than the obvious one that the cello is featured, especially in Angela's Prayers. Here's the orignal thread. Not much info though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CGCJ 394 Posted June 28, 2023 Share Posted June 28, 2023 On 24/05/2021 at 6:26 PM, BrotherSound said: Did a bit of digging and found a few of the original cue titles in the GEMA Repertoire. Stumbled upon a few you missed: 941850 Not a Drop of Milk 941853 A Coffin For the Baby 941854 Baby Oliver's Funeral 941859 God is Good, You Know 941860 Rainy River and Water Pails 941866 Dad is Not on the Train 941867 Mom Takes the Food Voucher 941868 Dad Leaves on Christmas Day 941870 Frankie Leaves Home 941871 Lying with Theresa 941872 I Miss Malachy 941878 Frankie's Vision I've not seen the film so I don't know what to search to try find the remaining gaps, unfortunately. BrotherSound 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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