bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Bespin said: We'll all listen to this album on Spotify, once... then pretend it never existed. Don't buy that shit. As a good JWfan, please learn to separate the wheat from the chaff. But that's my problem: is it really bad? The music is outstanding, the performances will be heavenly, I just wanted... more. Why would anyone make a 50-minute abum anyway? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JWMike 117 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 3 hours ago, Fal said: Conductor for John Powell and other RC composers, he worked on: Gladiator, The Prince of Egypt etc. He is also conducting the Han Solo Movie (so if John Williams's theme for the film is released as it's own track it will be conducted by him.)https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Greenawayhttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gavin_Greenawayhttps://www.discogs.com/artist/385932-Gavin-Greenaway?filter_anv=0&type=Credits&page=1 Is Greenaway definitely the conductor for Solo? I see he is listed for it on IMDB but they're sometimes wrong. Powell did afterall conduct his last film 'Ferdinand' himself but I suppose maybe he felt Greenaway's experience would be needed on this? Or maybe he felt he needed to be in the booth with Howard and the producers? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted March 3, 2018 Share Posted March 3, 2018 It's possible that Powell will conduct, I didn't even think of that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tmarps 217 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 10 hours ago, Bespin said: the LSO, the LSO, the LSO... ok there is the LSO in 1977, and there is the LSO in 2018, conducted by Mr. nobody Greenaway. The LSO in 2018 and 1977 is regarded as the pinnacle of the symphonic sound, and that’s down to the prestigious and extremely talented performers within the orchestra. The members of the LSO are the creme de la creme of the country’s orchestral talent, so it’s not like the standard of the LSO would get worse, because only the finest players are selected to join the orchestra. Another reason the LSO sounds so magical is because they are always so busy and playing all the time, so are forced to know their colleagues very well and form a remarkable relationship with each other. This was the same in 1977; the LSO have that wonderful sound because they know their follow players well and are always performing and rehearsing together. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brundlefly 2,385 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wow, an entirely new selection of rare John Williams pieces. Not Mr. Big and Bespin 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ocelot 508 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 My favorite hall to record in!!!!!! I love that sound there! It was an old church. I’ll be getting this as I love having different readings of the same things but yeH, why choose those things?! Would love to have heard them do some TFA and TLJ. On 3/3/2018 at 10:41 PM, tmarps said: The LSO in 2018 and 1977 is regarded as the pinnacle of the symphonic sound, and that’s down to the prestigious and extremely talented performers within the orchestra. The members of the LSO are the creme de la creme of the country’s orchestral talent, so it’s not like the standard of the LSO would get worse, because only the finest players are selected to join the orchestra. Another reason the LSO sounds so magical is because they are always so busy and playing all the time, so are forced to know their colleagues very well and form a remarkable relationship with each other. This was the same in 1977; the LSO have that wonderful sound because they know their follow players well and are always performing and rehearsing together. Very true but you can also say that about the Philharmonia Orchestra in London, the RSO, the Vienna Phil, The Berlin Phil etc etc Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 I like the cover. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 @Stefancos, what will happen when you reach 6000 "likes"? Will you achieve enlightenment? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Remco 685 Posted March 5, 2018 Share Posted March 5, 2018 On 4-3-2018 at 7:41 AM, tmarps said: The LSO in 2018 and 1977 is regarded as the pinnacle of the symphonic sound, and that’s down to the prestigious and extremely talented performers within the orchestra. The members of the LSO are the creme de la creme of the country’s orchestral talent, so it’s not like the standard of the LSO would get worse, because only the finest players are selected to join the orchestra. Another reason the LSO sounds so magical is because they are always so busy and playing all the time, so are forced to know their colleagues very well and form a remarkable relationship with each other. This was the same in 1977; the LSO have that wonderful sound because they know their follow players well and are always performing and rehearsing together. The LSO sounds a lot better now than they did in 1977. Actually their playing on the first Star Wars is quite sloppy a lot of times, but it certainly has its charm. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 Here's a theory regarding the comment from the woman in the video that they packed the album full: Maybe they recorded more than 80 minutes and decided to spare half of it for a 2nd volume? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted March 20, 2018 Share Posted March 20, 2018 32 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Here's a theory regarding the comment from the woman in the video that they packed the album full: Maybe they recorded more than 80 minutes and decided to spare half of it for a 2nd volume? Ah musicians today... they record 4 pieces in two days and have the impression of having recorded a boxset of 20 CD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted April 4, 2018 Share Posted April 4, 2018 It's strange that this compilation doesn't include anything after HP1. That's a botched strategy if they wanted it to have any relevance at all. As it is, the album should be re-titled John Williams: 1975 - 2001, Fuck the Rest. aj_vader and Bayesian 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Digital pre-order with samples are up in some countries' iTunes stores now https://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/1349374289 https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/1349374289 https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/1349374289 https://itunes.apple.com/sk/album/1349374289 etc 1 Main Title (From "Star Wars") 6:07 2 Theme (From "Jurassic Park") 6:01 3 Hedwig's Theme (From "Harry Potter And The Sorcerer’s Stone") 5:08 4 The Raiders March (From "Raiders Of The Lost Ark") 5:40 5 Flying Theme (From "E.T") 4:05 6 Theme (From "Schindler's List") 4:05 7 The Flight To Neverland (From "Hook") 4:56 8 Hymn To the Fallen (From "Saving Private Ryan") 6:26 9 Shark Theme (From "Jaws") 3:12 10 Superman March (From "Superman") 4:40 Ricard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 It seems Gavin is conducting some of the tracks a bit slow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Hope Amazon will have the samples soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 I can only listen to a sample of Star Wars. Sounds amazing though. I'd love to hear the LSO re-record it! bollemanneke and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 You want them to re-record the sample? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 Do I have to sign up for that 3-month Apple Music thing to hear all the samples? I can only listen to Star Wars too... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 My apologies, I assumed samples were up for every track and didn't notice it was only the first track. My bad. bollemanneke and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted April 26, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted April 26, 2018 5 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: You want them to re-record the sample? 😂 no, the whole score! I think it’s sound great. rpvee, Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted April 26, 2018 Share Posted April 26, 2018 No one except maybe Lockhart seems to understand correctly the tempi in John Williams' music. Wish Karajan recorded some JW!!! Wrong Record label I guess! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 What's so wrong with a little interpretation? It's the LSO, that's good enough for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 On 1-3-2018 at 10:28 PM, Jurassic Shark said: The 10-track album features Hedwig’s Theme from Harry Potter, performed by the LSO for the very first time. Incorrect! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 Geez, I was only quoting the product description. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 27, 2018 Share Posted April 27, 2018 32 minutes ago, Stefancos said: Incorrect! Out of curiosity, what recording are you referring to? I know they recorded the Chamber of Secrets score, but that OST didn't feature the concert arrangement of "Hedwig's Theme"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 Now up for sale in any country where it is already Friday https://itunes.apple.com/nz/album/1349374289 https://itunes.apple.com/au/album/1349374289 https://itunes.apple.com/jp/album/1349374289 etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I quickly went through some bits and pieces and surprisingly didn't really like what I heard... Might change my mind when I have time to listen to the whole thing, but right now I'm glad I cancelled that pre-order. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This might be an unnecessary release, but IMO the "Flying Theme" has rarely sounded better than in that sample I just listened to. Still not buying this of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 This release seems to be better than the remastered TESB OST. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted May 3, 2018 Share Posted May 3, 2018 I’ll give it a spin on Apple Music tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,359 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 It's on Youtube: Here is the premiere cello arrangement of Schindler's List separate from the playlist: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Listening to it now. It's a very good bright recording, with impeccable performances. The Cello version of Schindler's List is simply a transposed version of the violin part, JW didn't add nothing new. I must say that both Hook and Superman sounds particularly good. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 This might very well turn out to be the best JW-related release this month. I think I'll replace my order of TESB remastered OST with this album. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 1 hour ago, Fal said: It's on Youtube: Here is the premiere cello arrangement of Schindler's List separate from the playlist: So now YouTube is doing country-exclusive videos, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Here's the US digital sale / streaming links https://itunes.apple.com/us/album/1352593847 https://play.google.com/store/music/album?id=Brlcwl5lx7k2b4lkunqpkxj7wqi https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07B1ZQNH2 https://open.spotify.com/album/6qhYCCFVOQKNFq5QbYpje8?si=45KddVuUTvSHfG57KSUKoA 24bit/48khz: http://www.hdtracks.com/catalog/product/view/id/608088/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Managed to listen to the entire thing. Performances are predictably out of this world, except for one minor 'glitch' in Jurassic Park near the end. I still can't get used to their Flight to Neverland rendition because the Boston Pops version is the only one I've listened to for months, but ordered it all the same. I really hope a follow-up album might happen, we need more of those. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 The follow-up will be "packed full" with 30 minutes of music. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Well, I suppose that this album will do for the average Joe, we're probably just too demanding. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Breadstick Basilisk 108 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 I just wish they'd have recorded "Harry's Wondrous World" in place of "Hedwig's Theme". bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 Or the entire Harry Potter suites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 5/3/2018 at 7:57 PM, Disco Stu said: the "Flying Theme" has rarely sounded better than in that sample I just listened to. You're right Disco, this rendition of the Flying theme is awesome, especially the ending! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,207 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 On 27/04/2018 at 1:08 PM, Disco Stu said: Out of curiosity, what recording are you referring to? I know they recorded the Chamber of Secrets score, but that OST didn't feature the concert arrangement of "Hedwig's Theme"? I don't know if Steef was referring to a *recording*, but I've heard the LSO *perform* Hedwig's Theme live in London in 2016. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igger6 894 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 These performances and recordings are a home run—masterfully faithful, but better-sounding recordings than the (mainly BPO) versions on the Greatest Hits 1969-1999 set that I think of as "standard." UPDATE: OK, strike one. This version of Schindler's List is blown away by the 2Cellos version from last year. I liked the lower key and the instrumental tone better there: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted May 4, 2018 Share Posted May 4, 2018 14 hours ago, TownerFan said: The Cello version of Schindler's List is simply a transposed version of the violin part, JW didn't add nothing new. That's not quite correct. He didn't add new bars, that's true, but of course it's not simply a transposed version. If you rearrange a violin concert piece for cello you can't just transpose every other instrument, certain (maybe subtle) changes in the orchestration have to be made. Just saying. ;-) I personally love this version very much. It really hit me. Not a huge fan of solo violin anyway, to confess. Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 All these re-recordings of Hedwig's theme show how crucial is the synth celesta to the piece! (and in the past I was wondering why Williams uses a synth celesta and not a regular celesta) They use a regular celesta that makes the melody harsh, and all these quick figures don't sound very good. edit: If the unreleased Williams scores don't get released, we need at least a compilation in a rarities cd, including eg. pieces from The Secret Ways, the Story of a Woman, Daddy-O, Daddy's gone A-Hunting and such stuff. These upteenth recordings of the same Williams pieces, really don't add anything at all! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I like the celesta sound in this release! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 10 hours ago, lemoncurd said: That's not quite correct. He didn't add new bars, that's true, but of course it's not simply a transposed version. If you rearrange a violin concert piece for cello you can't just transpose every other instrument, certain (maybe subtle) changes in the orchestration have to be made. Just saying. ;-) I personally love this version very much. It really hit me. Not a huge fan of solo violin anyway, to confess. Can you elaborate on which changes have to be made in such situations other than transposing? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 minute ago, Jurassic Shark said: I like the celesta sound in this release! You're a tough man I assume. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,083 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Can you elaborate on which changes have to be made in such situations other than transposing? You generally can't just transpose everything, because of the limited ranges og the instruments. And if you transpose only the solo voice up/down in octaves, you'll most likely screw up the balance between voices. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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