JTGL 173 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 I wonder if he will do a second show again in Berlin. It seems Williams is still full of energy and willing the travel overseas😄 BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GerateWohl 4,370 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 2 hours ago, JTGL said: I wonder if he will do a second show again in Berlin. It seems Williams is still full of energy and willing the travel overseas😄 Even though I am from Berlin I would say, Berlin hardly deserves that much attention by Williams. Even though the concerts were great. But Milano, Budapest, Prague, Buenos Aires, Oslo would probably love to get a concert from him as well. JTN 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 The Oslo Philharmonic has been courting Williams for years. Won't happen, alas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 What about London? I'll go to London! Once 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,506 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 1 minute ago, bollemanneke said: What about London? I'll go to London! I'm surprised they haven't retried London after the "failed" 2018 concert. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post PetePan 163 Posted March 12, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 12, 2022 What about the renowned Concertgebouw Orchestra from the Netherlands? Together with the Wiener and Berliner Philharmonic, often considered as one of the best orchestra's in the world. Would love to see Williams once play in the Concertgebouw in Amsterdam... Jurassic Shark, Tom Guernsey, apples and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted March 12, 2022 Share Posted March 12, 2022 6 hours ago, Thor said: I'm surprised they haven't retried London after the "failed" 2018 concert. That was the conversation in the bar this evening; why hasn’t it happened yet? No date aligning for the RAH, LSO and JW? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Martinland 360 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 59 minutes ago, GlastoEls said: conversation in the bar this evening Oh nice - what bar was it? How many of you were there? Just asking - will be in Vienna in two weeks and might trace your steps... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GlastoEls 563 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 7 hours ago, Martinland said: Oh nice - what bar was it? How many of you were there? Just asking - will be in Vienna in two weeks and might trace your steps... https://www.gasthauspöschl.com Recommended! And you were mentioned actually in the Musikverein yesterday! We sat very close to where your family sat and I mentioned that to my friend. Martinland 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Seems to be the audio concert with speeches and applause Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 Not sure if it was posted already and I'm not sure when it happened but the CD of the Berlin album is available on Amazon US non-import now finally, but the blu-ray is still import, but pretty heavily discounted at least. Guess I'm finally buying this CD https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Concert-2-CD/dp/B09KN2N3F4 Blu-ray https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Concert-Deluxe-2CD-Blu-Ray/dp/B09KN2QCP4 I'm sure this was covered before, but are these blu-ray discs region locked? Would my Xbox play them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,367 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: Not sure if it was posted already and I'm not sure when it happened At some point prior to this post: On 03/02/2022 at 7:52 PM, Tom said: Reasonably priced US Amazon version of CD 2 pack: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B09KN2N3F4 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: but the CD of the Berlin album is available on Amazon US non-import now finally CD https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Concert-2-CD/dp/B09KN2N3F4 I ordered this exact version from Amazon and it is the jewel case version with yellow title block despite what the picture shows: On 04/02/2022 at 2:43 PM, Jay said: My physical copy just arrived from Amazon. I ordered this one: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B09KN2N3F4 And it's a yellow title block edition.... IN A JEWEL CASE 1 minute ago, Disco Stu said: , but the blu-ray is still import, but pretty heavily discounted at least. Guess I'm finally buying this Blu-ray https://www.amazon.com/Berlin-Concert-Deluxe-2CD-Blu-Ray/dp/B09KN2QCP4 I'm sure this was covered before, but are these blu-ray discs region locked? Would my Xbox play them? Completely region free, will play fine in all your players Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 13, 2022 Share Posted March 13, 2022 5 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I'm sure this was covered before, but are these blu-ray discs region locked? Would my Xbox play them? All regions: Disco Stu 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DestinationHoth 6 Posted March 18, 2022 Share Posted March 18, 2022 I sincerely appreciate all of the reviews and information of this concert. Ordered the Deluxe Edition from Amazon.com. Shipped from the UK and arrived here (in Ohio) in only seven days! Not the sturdiest packaging but arrived in pretty good shape (no broken plastic) and this was the best option for me (really wanted all of the CD's and the Blu-ray. Not sure I needed the Blu-ray audio but that was a bonus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Got the two-disc set for my birthday. Why are some people here opposed to digipacks? I love them. At least they don't break in the post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted March 21, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted March 21, 2022 1 hour ago, bollemanneke said: Got the two-disc set for my birthday. Why are some people here opposed to digipacks? I love them. At least they don't break in the post. You can easily replace a broken jewel case. You can't replace a squashed digipak. Additionally, digipaks are not protected against liquids, and they have a tendency to get squashed and misaligned on the shelf, because the spine's angle isn't fixed in relation to the back. MaxTheHouseelf, Jurassic Shark and bollemanneke 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Fair enough, but I have more trouble replacing jewel cases every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 2 minutes ago, Marian Schedenig said: You can easily replace a broken jewel case. You can't replace a squashed digipak. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted March 21, 2022 Share Posted March 21, 2022 Nearly finished disc one. The performances are still out of this world. The tuning is absent for no good reason at all and, well, the speeches. But I do want to say that the mix is actually much better on CD. Maybe it's my computer, but the Blu-Ray's emphasis on the piano is just stupid. This sounds much more balanced. The break between discs is idiotic too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 The vinyls are in the post. The black ones temporally appeared to be sold out in the DG shop. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted April 29, 2022 Author Popular Post Share Posted April 29, 2022 Mine has arrived. They increased the limited edition to 4500 units for this one. Vienna was limited to 1000 units. Muad'Dib, BB-8, Once and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 I wonder what they are planning for the 2nd Vienna concert. We may expect a strictly limited edition or even an auction of the master lacquer disc signed by ASM (but not JW because he only uses a Bleistift, ja...ja). Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted April 29, 2022 Share Posted April 29, 2022 2 hours ago, MaxTheHouseelf said: Mine has arrived. They increased the limited edition to 4500 units for this one. Vienna was limited to 1000 units. 35 = May the March be with you! MaxTheHouseelf 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaxTheHouseelf 324 Posted April 29, 2022 Author Share Posted April 29, 2022 1 hour ago, BB-8 said: I wonder what they are planning for the 2nd Vienna concert. We may expect a strictly limited edition or even an auction of the master lacquer disc signed by ASM (but not JW because he only uses a Bleistift, ja...ja). Yeah that will be interesting to see. I also expect this as Mastercut Vinyl (377€ is the price of the editions on sale...so I will happily pass...). And then probably as CD and digital? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 964 Posted May 2, 2022 Share Posted May 2, 2022 Received mine today! 1360/4500 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted May 5, 2022 Share Posted May 5, 2022 The golden double vinyl seems to be sold out now... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 On 20/1/2022 at 4:04 AM, Amer said: Im curious if they will do a SACD edition? I wrote back at the time that since DG was making a Blu-ray audio-only part of their release, the SACD was less likely. However, I was wrong and Japan is getting a Limited Edition SACD on June 3, 2022 - same day as the Violin Concerto No. 2 (which is not YET in SACD format). Here's the link for CD Japan. https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGG-9211 Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 3 hours ago, lairdo said: I wrote back at the time that since DG was making a Blu-ray audio-only part of their release, the SACD was less likely. However, I was wrong and Japan is getting a Limited Edition SACD on June 3, 2022 - same day as the Violin Concerto No. 2 (which is not YET in SACD format). Here's the link for CD Japan. https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGG-9211 Any info whether this will be with or without the speeches and applause? Don"t really see the need for a SACD including the edited "ambient noise". bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 Or whether the speeches are still cut down? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 7 hours ago, lairdo said: I wrote back at the time that since DG was making a Blu-ray audio-only part of their release, the SACD was less likely. However, I was wrong and Japan is getting a Limited Edition SACD on June 3, 2022 - same day as the Violin Concerto No. 2 (which is not YET in SACD format). Here's the link for CD Japan. https://www.cdjapan.co.jp/product/UCGG-9211 Thanks- although the Blu ray music disc is pretty good on its own.... but I will look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted May 16, 2022 Share Posted May 16, 2022 5 hours ago, Amer said: Thanks- although the Blu ray music disc is pretty good on its own.... but I will look it up. I completely agree; this is really for completists only. The Blu-ray really is better in terms of having the stereo and surround mixes + Atmos too. I assume the entire concert was mastered at 24/192 so the higher rate of the DSD files might just be upsampled. SACD is still popular in Japan though, and the Blu-ray audio disc assumes you have a display connected. Some people have audio only listening set ups (as I do in my office actually). Then there are nutty people like me outside Japan who just enjoy SACD as a format. 8 hours ago, BB-8 said: Any info whether this will be with or without the speeches and applause? Don"t really see the need for a SACD including the edited "ambient noise". My guess is that it is the exact same content as the CD - edited concert with speeches but no orchestra tuning as on the video release. Really, I think they they are just taking their Hi Res Blu-ray audio PCM & DTS 5.1 Masters and converting to SACD format (stereo and multichannel). I suspect that because the album has done so well around the world that there was enough interest for DG Japan to request the additional release. I think the timing on June 3 is a bit odd since they are also releasing Violin Concert No. 2 that day, but maybe they think that people might buy both. (But VC2 is not in a SACD format.) Anyway, whatever gets the Maestro's music into people's hands, ears and hearts is fine with me! BB-8 and Amer 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 Their VIENNA set was only Stereo but I’m hoping to get the Multi Channel sound mix on this SACD. That would be cool. I’ll probably still get it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted May 17, 2022 Share Posted May 17, 2022 11 hours ago, Amer said: Their VIENNA set was only Stereo but I’m hoping to get the Multi Channel sound mix on this SACD. That would be cool. I’ll probably still get it. Oh, I forgot that Vienna was just stereo. That does make me think we will only get stereo here too. The CDJapan site does not have any details yet, and Tower Records Japan does not list the disc at all. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Montague 42 Posted May 18, 2022 Share Posted May 18, 2022 17 hours ago, lairdo said: Oh, I forgot that Vienna was just stereo. That does make me think we will only get stereo here too. The CDJapan site does not have any details yet, and Tower Records Japan does not list the disc at all. What is this about? Vienna recording (first concert in 2020) was published by DG in Stereo, Surround and 3D Dolby Atmos mixes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted May 19, 2022 Share Posted May 19, 2022 On 17/5/2022 at 11:59 PM, Lord Montague said: What is this about? Vienna recording (first concert in 2020) was published by DG in Stereo, Surround and 3D Dolby Atmos mixes. This is referring just to the Japanese SACD version and our speculating on the newly announced Berlin Philharmonic concert coming to SACD on June 3. See my post at 8:04 pm PDT May 15 for the start of the discussion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted June 1, 2022 Share Posted June 1, 2022 Just ordered a copy of this (German only): Special zu John Williams John Williams 8 John Williams Konzertwerke 12 Das Hedwig’s Theme 16 John Williams und Robert Altman 19 Catch Me If You Can 20 Der Patriot 23 „Ikonografie in John Williams’ Filmmusik“ 28 Johnny’s Wild Side 34 John Williams in Berlin Cinema Musica 47 (2022) | Cinema Musica ChrisAfonso and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted June 2, 2022 Share Posted June 2, 2022 Just put this marvellous concert on again to celebrate my job interview at the British embassy. All bits help I guess. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted June 6, 2022 Share Posted June 6, 2022 On 19/05/2022 at 6:04 PM, lairdo said: This is referring just to the Japanese SACD version and our speculating on the newly announced Berlin Philharmonic concert coming to SACD on June 3. See my post at 8:04 pm PDT May 15 for the start of the discussion. Here is the Japanese SACD edition unboxing @lairdo@lairdo It's Stereo.. BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Madmartigan JC 85 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 I'm sorry if it's been discussed previously in this thread, but I found the compression of the regular CD so excessive it is incomprehensible to me that DG could issue the album as it is. Just 27 seconds into the first track (Olympic fanfare...) were enough to notice something was off. I felt so confused by the muddy loud parts that I had to rip it to look at the sound wave. As you can see, it shows abundant compression, while maintaining a wide dynamic range (this is the Imperial March). But doesn't seem too bad from afar. However, on closer inspection, the flat summits and valleys are all around in the louder moments. That extreme compression can be found in every track. It's such a shame, because it's an extraordinary album, I love the performance, and of course such a meaningful historic event. I have experienced compression with DG releases before, but never at this level. I am very dissapointed. Those of you who have listened to the other versions (DVD, vinyl) have experienced this too? Marian Schedenig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 8 hours ago, Amer said: Here is the Japanese SACD edition unboxing @lairdo@lairdo It's Stereo.. Yeah, I figured that was the case. Even so, I ordered it. Will arrive on Thursday. Now we'll see if Violin Concerto No. 2 gets the SACD treatment too. (I am guessing perhaps at the same time as the Blu-ray release.) By the way, Atmos mix on Tidal is quite nice. Not overly aggressive in the surrounds, but still atmospheric. I assume the Apple Music version is the same mix and likely that is what we will get on the Blu-ray too. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 1 hour ago, lairdo said: Yeah, I figured that was the case. Even so, I ordered it. Will arrive on Thursday. Now we'll see if Violin Concerto No. 2 gets the SACD treatment too. (I am guessing perhaps at the same time as the Blu-ray release.) By the way, Atmos mix on Tidal is quite nice. Not overly aggressive in the surrounds, but still atmospheric. I assume the Apple Music version is the same mix and likely that is what we will get on the Blu-ray too. My only peeve is that they didn't replicate the Multi Channel mixlayer on the SACD -they could easily do that that using blu ray audio which has the wonderful dolby Atmos split. Oh well, hope to grab this month end . You now how quickly these run out and into the hands of Ebay/secondary market speculators.. The Violin Concerto Cd would be nice to on SACD! OFF TOPIC: But Mobile Fidelity is issuing Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' in a new remastered SACD in November! (Stereo) Now that's a keeper! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Did they cut down the speeches on the Japan release too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BB-8 3,478 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted June 7, 2022 Share Posted June 7, 2022 14 hours ago, Madmartigan JC said: I'm sorry if it's been discussed previously in this thread, but I found the compression of the regular CD so excessive it is incomprehensible to me that DG could issue the album as it is. Just 27 seconds into the first track (Olympic fanfare...) were enough to notice something was off. I felt so confused by the muddy loud parts that I had to rip it to look at the sound wave. As you can see, it shows abundant compression, while maintaining a wide dynamic range (this is the Imperial March). But doesn't seem too bad from afar. However, on closer inspection, the flat summits and valleys are all around in the louder moments. That extreme compression can be found in every track. It's such a shame, because it's an extraordinary album, I love the performance, and of course such a meaningful historic event. I have experienced compression with DG releases before, but never at this level. I am very dissapointed. Those of you who have listened to the other versions (DVD, vinyl) have experienced this too? As I've mentioned elsewhere, the surround mix on the Blu-ray seems even worse, at least in 5.1 (I have no Atmos). Not sure if it's a result of the compression or additional balancing problems, but the acoustics are very different from what the concert sounded like in the Philharmonie, and in many tracks (e.g. Throne Room), the piano is so prominent that the music almost sounds like a piano concerto (with a lousy piano part, because it was never meant to add more than just a little additional colour and rhythm). bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lairdo 726 Posted June 8, 2022 Share Posted June 8, 2022 23 hours ago, Amer said: My only peeve is that they didn't replicate the Multi Channel mixlayer on the SACD -they could easily do that that using blu ray audio which has the wonderful dolby Atmos split. Oh well, hope to grab this month end . You now how quickly these run out and into the hands of Ebay/secondary market speculators.. The Violin Concerto Cd would be nice to on SACD! OFF TOPIC: But Mobile Fidelity is issuing Michael Jackson's 'Thriller' in a new remastered SACD in November! (Stereo) Now that's a keeper! Agreed on points 1 and 2. Oh my on the off topic one of Thriller. For sure that is one I will get! My first three CDs were bought in 1984 (yes I was an early adopter): 1. Star Wars OST 2. 1821 Overture by Erich Kunzel and the Cincinnati Pops 3. Thriller(!) I know exactly where I bought them too (although the store is long gone). Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post lairdo 726 Posted June 10, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 10, 2022 My SACD arrived Wednesday but just picked it up today from the PO Box. Listening now, and of course it sounds great. Probably not any better than my HiRes Audio and certainly not having multichannel is a bummer. So, really, just a nice collector's item. I've been collecting the Japanese releases since the Vienna concert. On 07/06/2022 at 3:39 AM, bollemanneke said: Did they cut down the speeches on the Japan release too? Yeah, the cut them down to 0. The Japanese audio versions do not include the speeches at all. I think this was the case for the CD release but I believe the Blu-ray video version has them subtitled. Amer, BB-8 and bollemanneke 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 Wait a minute, are you saying there's a Vienna SACD with all Mutte's pieces included and without speeches? BB-8 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amer 2,110 Posted June 10, 2022 Share Posted June 10, 2022 The last time I had a Multi channel Williams SACD was the 20th Anniversary of E.T. Although it had an intersting surround mix but nothing compared to the LLL 2CD edition. I hope to get this only as a novelty of the SACD format. In comparasion how does it fare with the Vienna set? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post BB-8 3,478 Posted June 16, 2022 Popular Post Share Posted June 16, 2022 Just seen that "The Berlin Concert" has been leading the German classical charts for four consecutive months: March, April, May, June 2022. Klassik Charts | Aktuelle News und Rezensionen (klassikakzente.de) Marian Schedenig, MaxTheHouseelf, Amer and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted June 16, 2022 Share Posted June 16, 2022 Nice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now