Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 47 minutes ago, Glóin the Dark said: My experience has been completely different for both of those films. I found them both enthralling from the first viewing and have seen each of them about seven times now. (For fun, not homework!) “Fun” is definitely not a word I’d use to describe Tár. 😂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 If you're watching any movie seven times in five months and you're not a complete idiot, you're definitely doing some kind of mental homework! I'm not saying that's not fun but you probably gotta be that enthralled with something to begin with. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 As infused as it was with slit your wrists nihilism, if I didn’t know otherwise I’d swear Tár was an Aronofsky flick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glóin the Dark 1,222 Posted March 11, 2023 Share Posted March 11, 2023 Tár is great fun! 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: If...you're not a complete idiot, you're definitely doing some kind of mental homework! I can rule out the latter. mrbellamy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 3 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: As infused as it was with slit your wrists nihilism Just like Everything Everywhere Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,457 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Roger Deakins thinks the best cinematography of last year were The Batman and Top Gun: Maverick, which weren't nominated due to the Academy's snobbishness: https://deadline.com/2023/03/roger-deakins-oscars-best-cinematography-not-nominated-breaking-baz-1235286295/ I agree with him that Greig Fraser's cinematography for The Batman should've been among the contenders, but then again the same guy won last year for Dune. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I disagree about The Batman. Didn't think it looked very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 15 hours ago, Nick1Ø66 said: As infused as it was with slit your wrists nihilism, if I didn’t know otherwise I’d swear Tár was an Aronofsky flick. Even though I know what you mean, I didn't feel depressed or suicidal after watching Tár. Indeed, with Aronofsky, I often feel the director's pressure to think or feel in a certain way but that wasn't the case with Todd Field. Maybe I missed something but I didn't feel like I was being emotionally manipulated, which I thought was a good thing. Taikomochi and Loert 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 PS: I haven't seen it but All Quiet On The Western Front will win everything. Needless to say why. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,016 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Well, The Batman is an audio-visual marvel (no pun intended). I'm not sure if I love the film itself but it is aesthetically very pleasing. Karol Edmilson 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 6 hours ago, Not Mr. Big said: I disagree about The Batman. Didn't think it looked very good. agreed it looked bad. The car chase for the life of me I couldn’t make out what was going on. Terribly shot. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, crocodile said: Well, The Batman is an audio-visual marvel (no pun intended). What's good about the sound of THE BATMAN, @crocodile? I haven't seen it, but I want to, and I have a detailed 5.1 system. What "caught your eye", sound wise? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 7 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: agreed it looked bad. The car chase for the life of me I couldn’t make out what was going on. Terribly shot. When Bats victoriously catapulted his car out of the sea of flames, that's where I switched it off. There's only so much clichés a man can handle. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I agree about the car chase - unusualy I saw the film on a big cinema screen, and while it was an exciting sequence, had a hard time understanding where everything/one was. Might be more of an editing fault though - isn't the cinematographer more responsible for lighting/movement, etc, and the editor more concerned with cutting and the 'flow' of sequences? My prediction for tonight, with EEAAO according to the BBC rivalling RotK for # nominations, is that AQOTWF will win for music as a token award, and it being about war, and a foreign composer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Loert 2,511 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, AC1 said: Even though I know what you mean, I didn't feel depressed or suicidal after watching Tár. Indeed, with Aronofsky, I often feel the director's pressure to think or feel in a certain way but that wasn't the case with Todd Field. Maybe I missed something but I didn't feel like was being emotionally manipulated, which I thought was a good thing. I agree, and I felt that Cate Blanchett's description of the film as a Rorschach test was extremely apt. It's very much a "show don't tell" film. A24 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: Might be more of an editing fault though - isn't the cinematographer more responsible for lighting/movement, etc, and the editor more concerned with cutting and the 'flow' of sequences? Both cinematography and editing are vital parts of the storytelling process. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Yes, but specifically the issue of confusing placement and movement of characters seems to me more of an editing problem than the DP. I think if you literally couldn't see what was going on due to lighting, or the camera movements made it impossible to keep track of anything that's the DP's problem. I this case, probably a mixture of both - the editor can only work with what the DP gives them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 11 hours ago, AC1 said: PS: I haven't seen it but All Quiet On The Western Front will win everything. Needless to say why. Won't win : All Quiet: Cast doesn't tick any diversity checkboxes. Fablemans :Same reason. Top Gun: Has a macho male lead(toxic masculinity). Avatar: Was accused of racism,cultural appropriation. Probably will win: Everything Everywhere (asian cast) Tar ( 3 words: woman lesbian conductor) Women Talking (feminism,#MeToo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, Richard Penna said: Yes, but specifically the issue of confusing placement and movement of characters seems to me more of an editing problem than the DP. I think if you literally couldn't see what was going on due to lighting, or the camera movements made it impossible to keep track of anything that's the DP's problem. I this case, probably a mixture of both - the editor can only work with what the DP gives them. it was both shaky cam, bad lighting, and editing. Like I say in the cinema starting at the screen for that entire 5 minute sequence wondering when on earth it would stop. it was comparable to Quantum of solace opening car chase in How terrible it was. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I love the quantum of solace opening. But i suppose i like arnold and aston martins Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, King Mark said: Won't win : All Quiet: Cast doesn't tick any diversity checkboxes. Fablemans :Same reason. Top Gun: Has a macho male lead(toxic masculinity). Avatar: Was accused of racism,cultural appropriation. Probably will win: Everything Everywhere (asian cast) Tar ( woman lesbian conductor...) Women Talking (feminism,#MeToo) What a truly sad state of affairs. 40 minutes ago, TheUlyssesian said: It was comparable to Quantum of Solace opening car chase in how terrible it was. Agreed. There are shots in that opening sequence that last for four frames. I have, however, rewatched it, over the years, since 2008, and I have come to a deeper appreciation of both this sequence, and the film, as a whole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I have an appointment tomorrow at 11:00, which is doable with a waking night, so I was actually ready to watch the Oscars live for once this evening and night. Alas, it turns out my brother has no more Disney+ screens to share, so I'll be tuning in for the results tomorrow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taikomochi 1,136 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Everything Everywhere is a truly excellent film and deserves wins in most categories it is nominated. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,335 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 1 hour ago, King Mark said: Won't win : All Quiet: Cast doesn't tick any diversity checkboxes. Fablemans :Same reason. Top Gun: Has a macho male lead(toxic masculinity). Avatar: Was accused of racism,cultural appropriation. Probably will win: Everything Everywhere (asian cast) Tar ( woman lesbian conductor...) Women Talking (feminism,#MeToo) There are things happening right now that more important than 'diversity' and Hollywood knows it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando 1,863 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 5 hours ago, Naïve Old Fart said: What's good about the sound of THE BATMAN, @crocodile? I haven't seen it, but I want to, and I have a detailed 5.1 system. What "caught your eye", sound wise? Hearing the Batmobile turn on in theaters was an incredible sound. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Hey....Disney+ access secured after all (through my brother)! Now it's just a matter of being able to stay up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,964 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 4 minutes ago, Thor said: Hey....Disney+ access secured after all (through my brother)! Now it's just a matter of being able to stay up. May I ask. How are you watching it on Disney+. Is that something specifically made available in your country Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benhip 21 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Can’t wait to see Top Gun lose… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JNHFan2000 2,964 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 What a weird thing to say Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 12, 2023 Author Share Posted March 12, 2023 Where I live I can watch the Oscars with an over the air antennae for free. But I haven't had it connected since we rearranged the living room, so I gotta figure that out in the next 4 hours or so JibberJabberwocky 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick1Ø66 4,718 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 EEAAO is a good film, but way, way overrated. Of course it will win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I found it's on Prime just now, so I've popped it on in the background. My usual litmus test - 30 mins from now I'll either have devoted all attention to it, or will be wondering what on earth's going on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 12 minutes ago, Richard Penna said: 30 mins from now I'll either have devoted all attention to it, or will be wondering what on earth's going on. That happened to me the first time that I saw BRAZIL, but I stayed with it. Turns out, it is one of the most amazing films that I have ever seen. Let's hope that you like EEAAO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 2 hours ago, JNHFan2000 said: May I ask. How are you watching it on Disney+. Is that something specifically made available in your country I think so, yes. JNHFan2000 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 So do Spielberg and Williams have chances tonight? I didn't believe it few month ago, but it seems all the "fresh" (and often non-all-white casting movies YEAH!!!, hey I Found Everything everywhere, all at ounce completely crazy and entertaining! WHOHOOOO) movies already won in all the other awards. Will the Oscars give two prizes to the two last old Hollywood true friends, Spielberg and Williams, even if they.... wear beards? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 I'm 50 mins into it and it's certainly entertaining, although at nearly 2 1/2 hours, almost certainly too long. I'll see how the rest of it goes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LSH 969 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Titanic is bound to win. Bespin and Brando 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 #JohnWilliams pic.twitter.com/oqEHTxKTXv— Dave Norris 💙 🇺🇦 (@dave_norris) March 12, 2023 michael_grig 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just under an hour to go (this movie is too long), and one thing I will acknowledge - the score is way more original and inventive than any of the other nominees. It's one case where it sounds totally bizarre on album, but total sense when you see it in action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Category order Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 The winner for visual effects is Guinness Beer. Have a great Oscar night, Bespin is here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,690 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Just finished EEAAO and I think it's going to be a big winner - I liked it. Based on the effect the music had in the film, I think a score award would be very appropriate. mstrox and Not Mr. Big 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michael_grig 472 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 Should I stay awake for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 12, 2023 Share Posted March 12, 2023 They mentioned JW in the ABC pre-show saying he was the oldest person nominated. At least some people noticed Hugh Grant looks pretty old Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 Ugh I thought it started at 9 not 8 and now I'm scrambling to figure out how to get my antennae working again Stupid daylight savings time Phe got it working Woah Jimmy Kimmel's eye makeup is crazy Oh man that's awesome JK worked JW into the moboligue! Johnny's looking great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Big mention of John Williams in Kimmel's monologue! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Even JW getting a mention in Kimmel’s monologue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 Kimmel's doing a bunch of John Williams jokes lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted March 13, 2023 Author Share Posted March 13, 2023 The audience is responding well to Jimmy's monologue. Colin Farrel shoving Brendan Gleeson, and Judd Hirsh pretending to take off his Mission Impossible mask Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted March 13, 2023 Share Posted March 13, 2023 After the dreary Golden Globes this year I'm glad Kimmel's monologue is actually funny. Better opening than the last few years Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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