Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just noticed it on the event listing: Quote AUG 07 2018 TUESDAY, 8:00 PM Tanglewood on Parade Tanglewood Koussevitzky Music Shed Lenox MA Artist & Program Information Boston Symphony Orchestra Boston Pops Orchestra Tanglewood Music Center Orchestra Bramwell Tovey, Keith Lockhart, Stefan Asbury, and John Williams, conductors Kirill Gerstein, piano* Program to include TCHAIKOVSKY Romeo and Juliet, Overture-Fantasy RAVEL Daphnis et Chloé, Suite No. 2 GERSHWIN Overture to Nice Work if You Can Get It (arr. & orch. by Bill Elliott) GERSHWIN Rhapsody in BlueJOHN WILLIAMS Three selections from Star Wars (Adventures of Han; Adagio from The Force Awakens; The Jedi Step & Finale) TCHAIKOVSKY 1812 Overture, Op. 49 *2018 Koussevitzky Artist Fireworks to follow the concert One of the festival's most beloved traditions, the ever-popular Tanglewood on Parade, offering audiences a full day of musical activities for the entire family, culminating in an 8 p.m. concert in the Shed featuring all of the festival's orchestras performing in a single concert. https://www.bso.org/Performance/Detail/93173 Falstaft, SteveMc, Will and 1 other 3 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Awesome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 It's probably just "The Starkiller" or "Torn Apart" slightly modified, but still cool! SteveMc, Will and Mitth'raw'nuorodo 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 So will this be available on demand or is that union thingy still an issue? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Adagio! So serious. I love it! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Jay said: It's probably just "The Starkiller" or "Torn Apart" slightly modified, but still cool! My first instinct as well. Hopefully Williams expands upon The Starkiller material and makes it even more of a dramatically tragic adagio. Will and SteveMc 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 Wow, another concert arrangement from TFA! That makes 6, right? Incredible just how fruitful that one film has been for suites (Rey, Resistance March, Jedi Steps, Scherzo for X-Wings, Jedi Steps and Finale, now an Adagio). I wonder if this was written early on in the writing process but abandoned or adapted into film cues like Sunbeam Strings (OST track The Starkiller)? It's worth noting that elements of Torn Apart were already integrated into the concert arrangement of The Jedi Steps, but it makes sense he'd expand this cue into a suite considering it's a recurring musical idea representing death. Also, this brings the total of new Star Wars concert arrangements in the last 2.5 years to 9! We are not worthy...! How wonderful that Williams remains so inspired by and committed to the franchise at his age. Hopefully we can look forward to another 3 for Episode IX! Falstaft, Jay, Taikomochi and 8 others 9 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pellaeon 593 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 Hmm… Cerebral Cortex, Marcus, karelm and 13 others 9 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 25 minutes ago, JTWfan77 said: So will this be available on demand or is that union thingy still an issue? There will be no on-demand availability as negotiations will only be resumed on the fall. Also, Tanglewood on Parade concerts haven't been broadcast for the past 4 years. Will, Bespin and 1977 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 How old is that video?? Looks to be the arrangement! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 hours ago, crumbs said: How old is that video?? Looks to be the arrangement! The description on youtube says "Mexico and the Americas meetings together through music. 4th March 2018. Gustavo Dudamel and Arturo Marquez. Palace of Fine Arts Mexico City." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Caption on the video is “Mexico and the Americas meetings together through music. 4th March 2018. Gustavo Dudamel and Arturo Marquez. Palace of Fine Arts Mexico City.” Let’s see if we can find out anything more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Viewing on my phone, YouTube doesn't show any details except the video's title. Unless it's hidden somewhere. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miguel Andrade 1,263 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Here's some info on the even from last March: http://www.peermusicclassical.com/news/19960 SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 12 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: Hmm… Rich and smooth. Quite lovely. Pretty good performance, too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post karelm 2,913 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 That's cool. So there is now an Adagio and the pre-existing fugato from The Force Awakens (March of the Resistance). If this trend continues, Ep. IX soundtrack will be: 1. Overture 2. Passacaglia and fugue 3. Theme and Variations 4. Rondo 5. Scherzo Trio 6. Sonata Allegro ... michael_grig, Falstaft, crlbrg and 3 others 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, karelm said: That's cool. So there is now an Adagio and the pre-existing fugato from The Force Awakens (March of the Resistance). If this trend continues, Ep. IX soundtrack will be: 1. Overture 2. Passacaglia and fugue 3. Theme and Variations 4. Rondo 5. Scherzo Trio 6. Sonata Allegro ... I vote yes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, karelm said: That's cool. So there is now an Adagio and the pre-existing fugato from The Force Awakens (March of the Resistance). If this trend continues, Ep. IX soundtrack will be: 1. Overture 2. Passacaglia and fugue 3. Theme and Variations 4. Rondo 5. Scherzo Trio 6. Sonata Allegro ... Hey, don't forget, we already have a Scherzo from The Force Awakens! This makes The Force Awakens to be the most musically productive Star Wars film outside of the original, yeah? I wonder if Dudamel asked Williams to write this, since he conducted it from the film. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 40 minutes ago, Miguel Andrade said: There will be no on-demand availability as negotiations will only be resumed on the fall. Also, Tanglewood on Parade concerts haven't been broadcast for the past 4 years. Too bad. So all we can hope for is a recording at some point. Probably some time after Ep IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Well, you can also scroll up and listen to it on youtube right now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Can any Spanish speakers tell us a bit of what Dudamel says in his eight-minute remarks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 I've added this "Adagio from The Force Awakens" to the composition page of my website. Even if it's from a movie, when a work receive a new title like this, especially for the concert hall, I consider it a new Concert Work (think of Stargazers, Escapades, etc.). http://www.goplanete.com/johnwilliams/composer/index.htm Falstaft, SteveMc and aescalle 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Why is Highwood's Ghost listed under 2017 when it doesn't premiere for another few more weeks yet? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jay said: Why is Highwood's Ghost listed under 2017 when it doesn't premiere for another few more weeks yet? Because we began to talk about this new concert piece last year. So it surely have been composed last year, no? Even if JW revised a little bit since, the info I have is 2017. That's not correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pellaeon 593 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Since the listing is in the following format… Quote JOHN WILLIAMS - Three selections from Star Wars (Adventures of Han; Adagio from The Force Awakens; The Jedi Step & Finale) …doesn’t that suggest the piece is named simply “Adagio”? So, now, do we call the March concert the premiere? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 hours ago, karelm said: 1. Overture 2. Passacaglia and fugue 3. Theme and Variations 4. Rondo 5. Scherzo Trio 6. Sonata Allegro ... Alla marcia and Danza pastorale better be in there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Very surprising. I never expected JW to return to The Starkiller of all things from TFA. That means we now have the following concert pieces for TFA: -Rey's Theme -Jedi Steps and Finale -March of the Resistance -Scherzo for X-Wings -Adagio Is that right? That's quite a lot from one score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, Bespin said: Because we began to talk about this new concert piece last year. So it surely have been composed last year, no? Doesn't matter, its only when it premieres that counts. This Adagio just premiered at a March 2018 concert. You think he never thought of the idea for it before Jan 1 2018? If you think he did, then you better move it up to 2017 or earlier on your site! This is why it is the premiere date that counts. The adagio premiered in March 2018. Highwood's Ghost is premiering in August 2018. End of. it really does not need to be any more complicated than that. 29 minutes ago, Pellaeon said: So, now, do we call the March concert the premiere? Yes, unless there was another, earlier one, that we also missed! 22 minutes ago, artguy360 said: Very surprising. I never expected JW to return to The Starkiller of all things from TFA. That means we now have the following concert pieces for TFA: -Rey's Theme -Jedi Steps and Finale -March of the Resistance -Scherzo for X-Wings -Adagio Is that right? That's quite a lot from one score. There's also Jedi Steps with a different ending & no end credits. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 So it's a concert arrangement of Starkiller. I thought it was quite well off the way it was, but I'll take any new Williams work. SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 4 minutes ago, Jay said: Doesn't matter, its only when it premieres that counts. Ok, you just decided that. Funny. The work was composed in 2017, then the Premiere was announced publicly, also in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Ah yes, the longer, kind of twisting version of Jedi Steps. That's an interesting one too. So really, 6 concert arrangements from 1 SW score. Really cool. I wonder if JW has any interest in expanding any music from TLJ. I really enjoy The Rebellion is Reborn but it is disappointing that that is the only concert piece to come out of TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 A Holdo Desperation Suite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bespin said: Ok, you just decided that. Funny. The work was composed in 2017. You are the worst! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Jay said: You are the worst! You don't know what you are saying! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, artguy360 said: Ah yes, the longer, kind of twisting version of Jedi Steps. That's an interesting one too. So really, 6 concert arrangements from 1 SW score. Really cool. I wonder if JW has any interest in expanding any music from TLJ. I really enjoy The Rebellion is Reborn but it is disappointing that that is the only concert piece to come out of TLJ. Agreed! C'mon, Williams, how many times have you written action stuff that could be tweaked for a concert in the last decade!? I wanna hear Fathiers, Escape, and Battle of Crait! Will and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 How about Dash Across No Man's Land concert version? The Pursuit of the Falcon concert version? Escape concert version! Falstaft, Pieter Boelen, crumbs and 4 others 7 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 John Williams is going all Elliot Goldenthal on us with such titles. Love it! Falstaft and igger6 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Jerry said: A Holdo Desperation Suite? This would be amazing! There is roughly 2 minutes of the motif already in the score so he's have to expand on that but it would be great to get a thematic, action driven concert piece. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Wow, that WOULD be cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 15 minutes ago, Jay said: You are the worst! And what do you do with the Concerto for Flute and Orchestra. It has been written in 1969 and remained unperformed till 1981. Why don't you agree that what you are saying has no sense? SteveMc 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
artguy360 1,843 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 This is a bit silly, but at the same time I am being serious: I would love to hear an edited together extended cue of all the new action/militaristic music from TLJ. There is Holdo's Desperation music plus several reoccurring action motifs plus some cool flourishes JW uses throughout TLJ but they are generally not highlighted on the OST. I feel like there is almost an alternative presentation of the score that could be built around this material. Taikomochi and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 3 minutes ago, Bespin said: Why don't you agree that what you are saying has no sense? What YOU'RE saying makes no sense. By your logic The Empire Strikes Back is a 1979 scores, and Tintin is a 2009 score. You never responded to this part of my earlier post, naturally: 24 minutes ago, Jay said: This Adagio just premiered at a March 2018 concert. You think he never thought of the idea for it before Jan 1 2018? If you think he did, then you better move it up to 2017 or earlier on your site! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 That's not the same, for a movie, we all know a score is written and recorded before the movie comes out. It's logical. But a Premiere don't always follow the writting of a Concert Work. The Concerto for Flute is a good example. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 We need the Hangar March! Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Bespin said: That's not the same, for a movie, we all know a score is written and recorded before the movie comes out. And for both Adagio from The Force Awakens and Highwood's Ghost, the score was written before the piece came out. Why should it be any different? Answer: It shouldn't. It'd be like calling Esplanade Overture a 1982 piece instead of 1983 because of that Boston Globe article. Taikomochi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,482 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 ZZZzzz... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Bespin said: And what do you do with the Concerto for Flute and Orchestra. It has been written in 1969 and remained unperformed till 1981. Why don't you agree that what you are saying has no sense? FYI, Williams finished writing Highwood’s Ghost last June. Just stop being an ass as usual. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Thor 7,504 Posted July 31, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 31, 2018 When will you people learn that arguing with Bespin about dates and organizing discographies is as futile as arguing with me about C&C releases? SteveMc, TownerFan and A. A. Ron 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Well, it would be nice if a complete discography adhered to the same standards everyone else does when discussing film music, instead of trying to force strange ideologies and make it like a pop musician's discography should look like. Maybe one day logic will triumph over personal preference! Taikomochi and Thor 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 24 minutes ago, Jay said: How about Dash Across No Man's Land concert version? The Pursuit of the Falcon concert version? I'm disappointed he didn't do those. I was happy when he made a concert version of The Unicorn (Sea Battle), but no one's played it in years. 28 minutes ago, artguy360 said: This would be amazing! There is roughly 2 minutes of the motif already in the score so he's have to expand on that but it would be great to get a thematic, action driven concert piece. Hell yeah. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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