crumbs 14,317 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Robbed of a clean studio recording for HS&TP yet again! It's our lot in life to suffer. I'd guess if they were recorded they'll eventually turn up. I predict the album reached 80 minutes so they had to cut a few tracks, and they already had 5 other Star Wars tracks on there (including another love theme), so it fell victim. It's a fairly long arrangement too, about 7 minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King Mark 3,631 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 crap it's the one I wanted the most as usual But I'd rather have a studio recording of the full orchestral version Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Let’s hope the two missing tracks turn up on a limited edition 7” vinyl single! Jurassic Shark and Will 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henry Sítrónu 494 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 17 hours ago, Marian Schedenig said: If that turns out to be true AND they had announced that edition right from the start, allowing first day customers to choose between the regular release and the complete one (even if that meant waiting for a few more weeks), it would have been sensible marketing. sensible marketing, isn't that an oxymoron? ;-) Will and Jurassic Shark 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Skywalker 1,795 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 It would be nice if the full performances of the missing tracks were in the dvd.... crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 2 hours ago, Luke Skywalker said: It would be nice if the full performances of the missing tracks were in the dvd.... Certainly possible. Maybe we could tweet ASM and ask if they were recorded? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 I think, for now, let’s focus on what’s being released, I am sure that’s what she - and John - would want us to focus on. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 10, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 10, 2019 30 minutes ago, rough cut said: I think, for now, let’s focus on what’s being released, I am sure that’s what she - and John - would want us to focus on. I don’t have to listen to her! She’s not my Mutter! Will, The Illustrious Jerry, bollemanneke and 5 others 2 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 23 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: I don’t have to listen to her! She’s not my Mutter! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 But Johnny is your Daddy-O! bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 4:29 PM, Jay said: I agree with Disco Stu My only question now is do I go through the hassle of canceling my pre-order of the normal edition or just keep it and buy the deluxe too, in case there's anything unique about the normal... I would cancel every order, wait until you can listen to and verify the contents of both versions and thhen order whatever you prefer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 Well I cancelled my order on the regular edition at Amazon.de and re-ordered the Deluxe version. Such a curious move to announce and make available for order these two versions at different times. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 10, 2019 Share Posted August 10, 2019 It's JW pulling our collective leg. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 12, 2019 Share Posted August 12, 2019 On 7/10/2019 at 11:37 AM, Stempel said: Is there a video of The Devil's Dance? It's not included in the "excerpts" that was posted to Youtube... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Story 57 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 11/7/2018 at 1:27 AM, TownerFan said: I love it. JW morphed the original composition into a melancholic Brahms-like romanza for violin. If all the new arrangements he did for ASM are powerful like this one, it's gonna be a very special album. John spent decades elevating fantasies with inspired themes that took their subjects seriously. Yet the films were not serious dramas and the music could not dwell in the realm of the thoughtful and profound for long. He can create that kind of art also, but the famous melodies are usually from lighter fare. The CD is 75% from fantasy/comedy, as you might expect of a hits compilation. Yet the Neoromantic virtuoso arrangements allow the composer to treat these magical themes a touch more seriously, give us a glimpse of where they might have gone in a different kind of story. I haven't heard the whole album, just enough to see what some have described as dark or melancholy is part of the vision. It's not time or distance in my view. John is showing the potential of these great themes in a way that just wasn't possible before. Along with sweet references to the original context crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
_deleted_ 203 Posted August 16, 2019 Share Posted August 16, 2019 On 8/9/2019 at 9:32 PM, Jay said: 16. Markings Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pawel P. 738 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 I've had this beautiful gem for a few days and I can say that the album is, as expected, phenomenal. I’ll write more in a large article that I’m going to publish before the premiere. Several pieces, like Hedwig’s Theme, Donnybrook Fair and The Duel are very vibrant and virtuoso. Hedwig’s Theme in the extended version is a revelation. Dracula sounds phenomenal and dark. Luke and Leia is beautiful, just like Across The Stars. Sabrina is quite similar to the version that appeared on Cinema Serenade, Schindler's List doesn't differ much from the original either. I am looking forward to the deluxe version, but even this one is definitely one of the record events of the year. I'm telling you, this ends with at least one Grammy Award Below are some photos.The booklet has 24 pages. Liner notes are in English and German. There is also short essay by Jon Burlingame, but I don't want to spoil everything here What can I say more... Well, it's 'Nice to be around' this CD crumbs, Amer, _deleted_ and 16 others 14 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Nice...apart from the inevitable self-congratulatory photographs, and the fawning "dedications". There's only one of me; do I get "dedications"? Do I 'eck! Still, anything with NIGHT JOURNEYS on it, is worth a listen. Amer and 1977 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,483 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 There's a word describing this whole exercice: gerontophilia! Naïve Old Fart, _deleted_, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Now, just a damn minute! Bes, you posted "gerontophilia" (which was, btw, so funny, I almost wiped my balls, instead of wiping my ass, on the toilet, while reading it!), but you say "in fire"? Have you been taking English lessons, you sly dog? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 14 minutes ago, Richard said: Now, just a damn minute! Bes, you posted "gerontophilia" (which was, btw, so funny, I almost wiped my balls, instead of wiping my ass, on the toilet, while reading it!), but you say "in fire"? Have you been taking English lessons, you sly dog? I'm taking greek lessons in fact! Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Marian Schedenig 8,193 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Pre-ordered the Deluxe Edition at Amazon UK, where it is considerably cheaper (even with shipping charges) than Amazon DE. Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rough cut 1,714 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 Looks great! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,660 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 7 hours ago, Richard said: Nice...apart from the inevitable self-congratulatory photographs, and the fawning "dedications". There's only one of me; do I get "dedications"? Do I 'eck! Still, anything with NIGHT JOURNEYS on it, is worth a listen. The PR department work-shopped some disparaging photographs and excoriating dedications, but they did not go over very well. Naïve Old Fart 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I heard that the photographs taken in the Gents, are not for publication. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Tom 4,660 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 Williams does not use the restroom. He has orchestrators for that. Will, Naïve Old Fart, Tydirium and 2 others 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 So...what does he do, when he needs to siphon the python? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bespin 8,483 Posted August 17, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 17, 2019 justaguy, Tydirium, rpvee and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 He looks pleased with himself. Has he got a bottle, down below? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt S. 493 Posted August 17, 2019 Share Posted August 17, 2019 I for one am really looking forward to this album! (Nice to see a jewel case, too!) Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Matt, do you want to see a long jewel case? Do you want to a very long jewel case? Matt S. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Sorry if this has been answered already, but do we know if the Sabrina arrangement is the same as the one found on the 1997 Cinema Serenade album with Itzhak Perlman? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I really don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I guess I'll know in less than two weeks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Pawel P. 738 Posted August 18, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: Sorry if this has been answered already, but do we know if the Sabrina arrangement is the same as the one found on the 1997 Cinema Serenade album with Itzhak Perlman? The arrangement is the same, the differences are very subtle. Besides, Mutter's style of playing is slightly different than Perlman's. When I listen to this CD, I can easily imagine how much fun Williams had when he was creating these arrangements. He didn't want to beat the originals, this isn't what this album is about. It's about great art, friendship and time spent together. It's about enjoying music that is able to cross all boundaries. Amer, Disco Stu, Falstaft and 2 others 2 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pawel P. said: (...), Mutter's style of playing is slightly different than Perlman's. Mutter don't play "à la jewish" of course. Nobody can't beat Perlman on Schindler's List Theme (and on many other things!). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,533 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 I beat him at Scrabble, one time. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 1 hour ago, Bespin said: Mutter don't play "à la jewish" of course. Nobody can't beat Perlman on Schindler's List Theme (and on many other things!). I dunno, the live LSO performance last year was pretty pretty great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Who performed that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bollemanneke 3,349 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Carmine Laurie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 4 hours ago, Bespin said: Nobody can't beat Perlman on Schindler's List Theme (and on many other things!). Music isn't a competition! At the technical level of Mutter and Perlman it’s just taste and interpretation crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 18, 2019 Share Posted August 18, 2019 Her Mozart’s Turkish concerto with Karajan is among by favourite interpretation of this work, even if Karajan slowered the tempo a bit for her. She was what, 13-14 yo on this historical recording? Amer 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Between the "normal" and the "deluxe" version of the CD, there are 5 new musical tracks, that's strange. I'll wait. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 That's why it's called deluxe. 15 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Music isn't a competition! At the technical level of Mutter and Perlman it’s just taste and interpretation But who's got the best taste? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,483 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 22 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: That's why it's called deluxe. Normally, a "deluxe" edition adds a DVD with an interview, or a poster (haha), not additional tracks on the first CD. You see, she always loved to work with young artists of the next generation! WilliamsStarShip2282 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 In my experience, deluxe refers to anything they've done to sell basically the same product one more time. Bespin and _deleted_ 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 And has collectable covers, with embossing! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 Like CE3K! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post rough cut 1,714 Posted August 19, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted August 19, 2019 3 hours ago, Bespin said: Normally, a "deluxe" edition adds a DVD with an interview, or a poster (haha), not additional tracks on the first CD. No, it can be extra tracks. There’s nothing strange about this DE of Across The Stars - except that Han Solo & The Princess and The Devil’s Dance are missing! crumbs, rpvee and Once 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted August 19, 2019 Share Posted August 19, 2019 That will be on the Special Edition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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