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Just Seth showing yet more reasons why he's a great creator who values the composer.
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Of course. I expect nothing more from Disney.
What a pathetic embarrassment.
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I cannot believe that Obi Wan Kenobi; the greatest Jedi Knight in the Galaxy, the one who defeated Darth Maul in combat and Anakin Skywalker at the height of his powers, the one who fought for good and peace for decades, who led hundreds of complex missions for the Republic and the Jedi...actually ACCIDENTALLY whoopsie daisy silly me called Leia by her real name IN FRONT of some Stormtroopers, contradicting his own story and risking her life.
Thanks Disney.
I am so sorry Lucas for ever thinking your dialogue was cheesy or clunky in the prequels, it was damn shakespeare compared to this show.
Kenobi: "What have you become?"
Vader: "I am what you made me."
Also Vader: "You should have killed me when you had the chance."
Also Vader: "Now you will suffer, Obi Wan."
Also Vader: "Your pain has just begun."
It actually hurts.
Satellite dish head: "you go too far Reeva."
Reeva: "you don't go far enough."
You can literally predict every cliche awful line.
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6 minutes ago, Not Mr. Big said:Even testicular?
My cancer has cancer.
No leia's theme, no force theme, no vader motif, no imperial march, no luke's theme. No talent.
The music that played while cosplay Vader just let Kenobi escape, for some reason, was the most generic, trailer-house trash you could possibly use.
Not an ounce of creativity or care went into this show from anyone.
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Had to watch Kenobi because I've heard it's a trainwreck, but holy hell it's special.
I thought Star Wars was dead since the Last Jedi, but didn't realise it was possible to keep murdering a corpse over and over again.
I haven't watched a single Disney Star Wars product since Rise of Skywalker (which I only watched to laugh at, but found I couldn't even finish it.)
I truly don't understand how humans can make such insulting media and no one stops them.
I love Ewan McGregor, but even he looks bored to death playing Obi Wan again.
I watched the 3 episodes and laughed, got angry, was baffled, and just about every other emotion. It's a catastrophe. The music makes me want to be sick. But the writing (if you can call it that) it just embarrassing. I could write a 300 page essay of the problems I've seen.
Even simple things like establishing shots of towns are just awful. Everyone looks like they're cosplaying at Disney Star Wars Land. George Lucas must be rolling in his grave...I mean piles of money.
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Kevin Kaska's score for the premiere was bloody wonderful. Lovely emotional moments, and damn his action and fun establishing pieces were great. Happy to have him onboard as a new composer.
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What an incredible first episode. Heavy subjects explored, like loss, grief, suicide, the ethics of questionable beliefs. Such fun as well, with just sensational music.
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I seriously hope they release season 3 and its score on dvd and cd. They better not just have it exclusive to the bloody streaming service crap like so much else.
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The water effects will be mindblowing. Some of those close up splashing shots, like when the hands are tightening the ropes and the water is splashing around the hands. Man...that kind of stuff will be ridiculous.
Is it still WETA Digital?
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I'm still kind of interested in the sequels, mainly for what will be mindblowing CGI. Considering the last film was incredible visually and it was 13 years ago, I'm sure WETA digital will create something truly special, and likely the best CGI we've ever seen, especially with the water-heavy effects.
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Listening through it now. I'm really enjoying the quiet and delicate start to the score. A few nice relaxing pieces with lovely woodwind and choir writing, particularly in the pieces; 'She's Ready' and 'Wyvern Rescue.'
I like how 'Young Man's Magic' brings back a few subtle themes from the previous scores, including a nice Main Theme reference near the end.
Hearing the return of Jacob's solo material and his and Queenie's material in 'Call Me Jacob' and 'Countersight' is a damn delight! Man, JNH nailed that character musically. So fun.
Fresh little nod to Hedwig's Theme on high strings in 'Insufficient Evidence.'
Loved hearing the 3-note haunting choir theme from the 2nd film return at the end of 'Kama's Memory.' One of my favourite JNH choices in the 2nd film.
'Manticore Dance' has some interesting orchestration. Nice spanish vibes.
Thankful to hear Newt's swashbuckling adventure theme in 'The Escape.'
Then after that the score kind of goes stale around the 1 hour mark, until 'Case Chaos' when it picks back up with some more energy.
A very subtle hint at JNH's Dumbledore theme in 'He's Lying To You.' I was really hoping that his theme would be the focus of the score, and be developed thoroughly along with Grindelwald's thematic material to juxtapose, but strangely both of their music is basically non-existent...
'He Sought To Kill, I Sought To Protect,' is a nice tragic piece with some of that JNH string power through dramatic chord progression, and finishes with some further development of his haunting choir writing.
'The Promise' reprises some Fantastic Beasts Main Theme and the only real Dumbledore's Theme appearance.
'The Ceremony' is a gorgeous piece and a sad reminder of what the score could have been. Some reprisals of his beautiful love theme for Newt and Tina, a final rendition of his Dumbledore Theme, and some great Brass and Woodwind solo's. That and the final Title Card piece, which is great and thematic also, feels like JNH was musically telling us that this is how the score could have been, if only I had a more inspiring film to work from.
Overall, I am disappointed. The Score feels devoid of melody, devoid of themes, and devoid of energy. It still has magical moments, but JNH is capable of such top level magical fantasy, which he gave us in the 1st film's score, but clearly this film and it's director couldn't get that out of him.
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Really enjoying those two tracks. Makes me very excited for the score.
Whenever I listen to a few JNH pieces from a new score, I find myself going on a JNH binge and just following the thread of the next piece from random score he wrote until I'm high on adrenaline, jumping around the room and miming taiko drums like a madman.
Every time I binge JNH though, I inevitably find myself enveloped in his 3 disney animated films. Man, his Treasure Planet score is truly a masterpiece.
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It would be interesting if, in the sequel, Giacchino shapes his Bruce Wayne theme to become the main Batman theme, and his vengeance-heavy, hard-hitting power theme for Batman will become the secondary theme, considering the obvious direction that the story is heading toward. Spoiler - that Bruce realises he needs to help with hope as Bruce, rather than just with fear as Batman.
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My brain is slowly releasing adrenaline in anticipation for this score.
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I have no idea about the comics, but I do listen to some geek podcasts etc and I think they're going with Hush from what I hear. Reeves said he'd love to do Hush and also I remember seeing the word Hush on a screen in the film.
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I'm enjoying the score the more I listen to it.
Not sure if Spoilers are allowed here yet, but I've noticed that Giacchino mirrors the film's overall intention with Bruce as the score goes on, in how he uses his Batman theme and Bruce Wayne theme. E.g. you would expect the final action pieces to be full Batman theme, but instead Giacchino dominates the final few minutes of the score with his Bruce Wayne theme and his Batman theme takes a backseat, to mirror what the film is doing, which is showing that Bruce realises he has to help Gotham as Bruce, just as much as he does as Batman, and also by using Batman as a symbol of hope, not just fear, moving forward for the good people of Gotham.
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I am rarely enthusiastic about a score on first listen. It has to be something extremely energetic and complex to grab me instantly.
Scores like this (minimalist and slow building) are never really fully connected and realised unless I see the film. Then it either makes sense or falls apart. For me, this score went from some nice moments and the rest quite empty, to wow, this score is fantastic, after seeing the film.
A film score's primary intention is to work for the film. A great solo listening experience is a bonus, but judging a score's effectiveness and meaning outside of a film without context is the opposite of what a film score is for.
I adored this score during the film, and now the solo listen can be enjoyed as I can visualise the intent of each piece. Giacchino had very distinct thematic ideas. His Batman theme is actually my favourite theme written for the character. It dominates the film. And is explored in every major scene as a detective motif, a horror motif, an action, love, sinister motif etc. And his Catwoman theme is wonderfully rich and seductive for her. And of course his Riddler theme incorporating the hymn is haunting and tense, with a real twisted core.
I like the score the more I think about it and hear it.
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The Batman made me re-evaluate the Nolan Trilogy. While I love Ledger's Joker, I find myself judging the trilogy in a more negative way. For example, Batman Begins made Gotham a character, but TDK and TDKR erased that and Gotham was just Chicago and New York. Also Pattinson's Batman was far superior to anything I've seen before. His presence, realism and detective nature was just leagues ahead of Bale's Batman for example. Especially his fighting style and voice. Pattinson makes Bale's fight scenes and voice seem embarrassing.
I don't understand the criticism for the lack of a playboy singular Bruce Wayne character for Pattinson either. The story was clearly about him being consumed by his Batman side and his lust for revenge. He isn't interested in being Bruce Wayne. But the finale of the film showed real growth as he understood that hope can be more powerful than fear and instead of being a force of terror, he will become a force of hope moving forward for the people of Gotham. Literally shown in that flare seen as he led the survivors to safety as they were initially scared to take his hand, but the boy showed courage and took his hand first. Great character growth.
There are things I didn't like though, the Joker scene was awful, but that didn't effect the plot at all, just felt pointless and "not another joker damn."
I also wasn't expecting a big CGI flooding disaster film at the end. It felt so grounded and brutal up to then, but turned into a more "here's the big hollywood set piece superhero action scene at the end that the studio ordered." It felt misplaced.
Overall though, it was a great film. Pattinson was brilliant and Giacchino's score was sensational. Very clearly defined thematic pieces throughout. Batman's theme, Bruce's theme, Catwoman and the Riddler all very distinct and seperate. Extremely effective score.
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Enjoyed the 2nd episode overall, but had a few bad issues with it like their lack of caution when entering an alien hive. No suits until after they learned of the danger. And how they saw the admiral morphing into a creature and didn't think to quarantine him in case of exposure of a deadly virus... and no security in sick bay... Also it was convenient that the admiral was the one infected, so he could shut the power off and lock everyone out with his top level codes. And where the hell did the entire crew go when the power went out? Haha they just disappeared. Only the main cast were left for some reason. And I guess this was another classic scifi show cliche when probably 50 crew are dead and they just forget about it and move on. No funeral or anything.
I did love the designs though. Nice creepy (the Fly) type creatures. I enjoyed the premise of a completely dark area of space that not even the Krill dare to go. Nice creepy ideas. Just the execution was not the best.