Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 5/12/2019 at 6:09 AM, mrbellamy said: Avatar 2 is a must-see. James Cameron’s first movie in 12 years. Whatever the Avatar brand means at this point, you gotta go if you love movies. Has he really used that long to develop this mediocre franchise, or has he been doing other things as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,333 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 On 5/12/2019 at 6:09 AM, mrbellamy said: Whatever the Avatar brand means at this point, you gotta go if you love movies. Sorry, but I love films. mrbellamy and Disco Stu 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 6 hours ago, Alexcremers said: So even if the first sequel flops big time, they still gonna make more of them? Whether we like it or not? They’re all being filmed simultaneously. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 4 hours ago, Jurassic Shark said: Has he really used that long to develop this mediocre franchise, or has he been doing other things as well? I think he’s produced some things but point is it’s been too long since he’s directed a movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Do you mean he's possibly lost it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He has been terminated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 51 minutes ago, Jurassic Shark said: Do you mean he's possibly lost it? Doubt it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 He's lost his marbles... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 1 hour ago, mrbellamy said: I think he’s produced some things but point is it’s been too long since he’s directed a movie. I don't think that matters. Cameron has directed very few movies overall, compared to his contemporaries, and usually takes ages between each directing project, being the perfectionist that he is. But it usually comes out brilliant in the end. Incidentally, I think this year's Cameron-produced ALITA is one of the very best I've seen all year -- feels far more Cameron to me than Rodriguez. At my second place of 2019 so far! Chen G. and 1977 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,512 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 Links, please! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 That Rian Johnson, he's always subverting expectations! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Thor said: I don't think that matters. Cameron has directed very few movies overall, compared to his contemporaries, and usually takes ages between each directing project, being the perfectionist that he is. But it usually comes out brilliant in the end. I meant it’s been too long of a wait! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thor 7,504 Posted October 3, 2019 Share Posted October 3, 2019 22 minutes ago, mrbellamy said: I meant it’s been too long of a wait! Oh, sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,449 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA https://www.indiewire.com/2019/10/avatar-marketing-people-dont-want-sequels-1202183677/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 With one quote, James Cameron has killed HFR in mainstream cinema Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Thread title redundant now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I learned the other day that Gemini Man is showing in 120fps in select cinemas. One movie review podcast I listened to, the hosts saw it in that format and thought it looked terrible, one described it as looking like a big budget porn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 10 hours ago, Jay said: I learned the other day that Gemini Man is showing in 120fps in select cinemas. Interestingly, the running time is 23 minutes. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 3 minutes ago, Jay said: One movie review podcast I listened to, the hosts saw it in that format and thought it looked terrible, one described it as looking like a big budget porn Heh, and a movie podcast *I* listen to is very pro-Ang Lee and was all about the HFR stuff for action scenes especially. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I guess someone needs to update this wikipedia page now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_films_with_high_frame_rates Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 Soarin' Over California! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 I don't mind sequels if they're done right. My wife and I are intrigued by the sequels for Avatar. The small group of 'fans' who say there is no need for sequels don't speak for everyone. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 22, 2019 Share Posted October 22, 2019 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: Heh, and a movie podcast *I* listen to is very pro-Ang Lee and was all about the HFR stuff for action scenes especially. Its the sort of thing that seems to almost be hereditary: some people just like it, others don't. In a way, complaining about HFR when its 48fps or 120fps is kind of silly because, if you don't like it, you can simply watch the film at 24fps and it will look just like any other film. I do think its a technology worth exploring. The real deal with Gemini Man was that it contained special effects which were rendered in 4K and 120fps and 3D. When you take those capabilites and use them on a 24fps, 2D movie - you could do effects in 6K, which would allow for an IMAX-quality pipeline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 HFR is an assault on all we hold dear in cinema, after all it's going against the standard frame rates we've become accustomed to for decades. It didn't transport me into the world of the Hobbit, it made me question the technical aspects of the film instead of the detail we're supposed to be viewing. Jay 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 Like I said, it’s divisive to the point of seeming almost genetic in one’s disposition to enjoy it or not. Some people do really like it. But the point is that any film shot in 48fps or 120fps can be shown at 24fps and look like any other movie, so it’s not worth deriding it when you can just watch the version that makes you happy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 23, 2019 Share Posted October 23, 2019 I wasn't against your point on whether it could be shown at 24, just the more recent practice of filmmakers to use HFR. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Breathmask 555 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 But a film shot at a high frame rate played back at 24fps will still have the shorter exposure time inherent to the high frame rate. Which means less motion blur than we're used to, leading to a crisper look than usual. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheUlyssesian 2,478 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 120 FPS looks so unnatural, I can never get into a movie. When I bought by new TV and refresh rate was 120 hertz, the first thing I did was turned off the 'smooth motion'. I just cannot tolerate it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,689 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 I saw the first 2 Hobbits in HFR (I can't remember whether I saw BOFA in the cinema) and I had no string reaction either way. I didn't get that 'home video' feel that some critics claimed, but it also didn't make me experience the film in any real new way. I was far more affected by PJ's endless swooping shots making me feel nauseous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 24, 2019 Share Posted October 24, 2019 It looked so weird. And everyone was moving so fast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/3/2019 at 5:40 AM, Jurassic Shark said: Has he really used that long to develop this mediocre franchise, or has he been doing other things as well? He was busy producing Alita for Robert Rodriguez and Terminator Dark Fate for Tim Miller. Too bad the movies he produces tend to not do well, i.e. Sanctum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 4:56 AM, Thekthithm said: It looked so weird. And everyone was moving so fast. Like daytime soap operas... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I don't know... it all happened so fahst. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 The audience knows the size of cinema screens, now I want them to marvel at their speed. We must give them something new to print. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I would prefer not to push the projectors until they've been properly run in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 What a glorious end to your final Avatar if we were to get into screens at HFR and surprise them all. Make the morning papers. Retire with a bang, eh, JC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,528 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 12:38 PM, Richard Penna said: ...(I can't remember whether I saw BOFA in the cinema)... I did. I'll never forget it...however hard I try. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 There was a panning shot in AUJ during the introduction of Erebor which looked a bit stilted and blurry, which is strange considering HFR smooths that blur, but I think it couldn't handle the immense rendering that the shot required. from 3:04 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Those fucken Hobbit movies were boring as hell. All it was was a buncha people walkin'. Three movies of people walkin' to a fucken volcano. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 There wasn't a volcano in The Hobbit, you fool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trent B 337 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 I never saw The Hobbit movies but have seen the original Lord Of The Rings movies. I thought the LOTR movies were OK. I only saw them once maybe twice but haven't since. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 They're cinematic masterpieces, and their scores are some of the best film music ever written! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 FOTR is a perfect film! mstrox and Edmilson 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 Zzzzzz Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 On 10/24/2019 at 12:45 PM, Mr. Breathmask said: But a film shot at a high frame rate played back at 24fps will still have the shorter exposure time inherent to the high frame rate. Which means less motion blur than we're used to, leading to a crisper look than usual. It’s really not a huge difference. Both The Hobbit and Billy Lynn’s Halftime Walk look quite normal in 24fps. On 10/24/2019 at 2:38 PM, Richard Penna said: I was far more affected by PJ's endless swooping shots making me feel nauseous. That was always his style. I mean, in Heavenly Creatures the camera can barely hold still. So I’m not sure what you were expecting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 HFR is awful. It only really works for massive nature vista shots, or to compliment CGI sequences. It should stick to nature documentaries. TheUlyssesian 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,076 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 People just need to get used to it. Chen G. and toothless 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted October 27, 2019 Share Posted October 27, 2019 It sucks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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