Holko 9,595 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 You have brought us to Porgatory! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,698 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 1 hour ago, Disco Stu said: what have i done I think you'd better leave, again "Porging is such sweet sorrow" PORGIO+JULIET KISS ME, PORG PORG-HUR PORG WITH THE WIND THE PORG OF A NATION PORG BY PORGWEST SUPERPORG SUPERPORG II (TV) SUPERPORG II (RDC) SUPERPORG III SUPERPORG IV: THE PORG FOR PEACE A.P. ARTIFICIAL PORG BvS PORG OF JUSTICE BABE: PORG IN THE CITY WESTPORG FUTUREPORG LOGAN'S PORG P*O*R*G Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Good Porg! What is happening... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 The line must be drawn HERE; no further! I will make the Porg PAY for what they've done! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,595 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Anywhere you go, anything you do, even if you sleep - The Porgs will be with you. Always. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,698 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Live long, and porger. 14 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: The line must be drawn HERE; no further! I will make the Porg PAY for what they've done! You broke your little porgs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Manakin Skywalker 4,907 Posted October 13, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted October 13, 2017 Cerebral Cortex, Docteur Qui, crumbs and 9 others 3 1 3 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 Manakin Skywalker needs to be stopped! A member of my own family but a menace all the same! Manakin Skywalker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 741 Posted October 13, 2017 Share Posted October 13, 2017 5 hours ago, Disco Stu said: what have i done Don't worry. With all the Porg-related marketing, the aporgalypse was inevitable! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Not to start panic stations or anything but... what the hell is this quote?! Abrams from an interview with the BBC: Quote “Well, it’s certainly something that I’m aware of now working on Episode IX – coming back into this world after having done Episode VII. I feel like we need to approach this with the same excitement that we had when we were kids, loving what these movies were. And at the same time, we have to take them places that they haven’t gone, and that’s sort of our responsibility. It’s a strange thing – Michael [Giacchino, composer] worked on things like Planet of the Apes and Star Trek and Star Wars, and these are the things of dreams. Yet we can’t just revel in that; we have to go elsewhere.” http://www.darkhorizons.com/star-wars-episode-ix-wraps-all-nine-films/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
greenturnedblue 372 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 9 minutes ago, crumbs said: Not to start panic stations or anything but... what the hell is this quote?! Abrams from an interview with the BBC: http://www.darkhorizons.com/star-wars-episode-ix-wraps-all-nine-films/ I think he just means Gia is a composer, not the composer for IX Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Giacchino was sitting alongside Abrams during the interview with BBC, that's why JJ mentioned him. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 Ah hah! Knew there had to be a context, like he was being interviewed at an event for Gia or something. Almost makes it amusingly awkward, considering JJ's discussing a film Gia probably won't have any involvement in. BTW JJ, you forgot Jurassic Park! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted October 19, 2017 Share Posted October 19, 2017 crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 'Star Wars: Episode IX' Hires 'Blade Runner 2049' Art Director Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 Will Rey be in this one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I heard she's barely in TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,493 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 I forgot she was in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 14, 2018 Share Posted February 14, 2018 7 hours ago, Denise Bryson said: I heard she's barely in TLJ. Because she isn’t the main character. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 14, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2018 You're kidding, really? Gruesome Son of a Bitch, John, Nick1Ø66 and 1 other 2 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,367 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Isn't it a bit late to be hiring an art director?! I would've thought the film would start production in Q3 this year. Great choice though, Inglis has some seriously impressive credits to his name. Gotta wonder if Williams will even see the film until mid-2019 though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 Since filming starts in June, I imagine Williams will have something to look at by December. But who really knows. Fortunately, they have plenty of time to figure it all out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 J.J. Abrams Says Last Jedi Complaints Won’t Affect Star Wars 9 crumbs and Holko 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bayesian 1,367 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I have every confidence for JJ Abrams' Ep. IX. TFA was great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 But our expectation of an establishing piece in a trilogy are not the same with a concluding piece. Especially seeing how its not just the conclusion of this trilogy but also the conclusion of the entire nonet. You'd expect something that has poignancy and a sense of closure to it, not just something that's "fun" like The Force Awakens. Besides, in attempting to make the closing chapter "bigger" than the previous entries, often you end with something that is overwrought, which is why the third chapter in a trilogy is often the least of the bunch, and rarely if ever the best of the lot. I don't hope for too much in terms of Episode IX. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I'm hoping it will be fun! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 And beyond that? Don't we want something a bit more profound out of our movies? especially in such an enduring series? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,661 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I say this not as a lack of devotion, as I am a big Star Wars fan who watches the shows, reads every comic and reads many of the books. I am looking for absolutely zero out of Star Wars except for a fun, thrilling adventure, maybe with a little romance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 But I think there are more profound emotions to be had in a Star Wars film. Think about the anguish in the finale of Empire Strikes Back, the poignancy of Vader's death in Return of the Jedi, the darkness of Anakin killing the younglings in Revenge of the Sith, etc. To expect it to just be "fun" is to cut it way too much slack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,661 Posted February 20, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted February 20, 2018 We've seen two really great Star Wars movies (SW, ESB), four reasonably fun Star Wars movies (ROJ, TFA, TLJ, RO), and three...prequels, which have like 15%-50% fun apiece. My expectation is to land in the middle and have fun; if I get something more out of it, that's great. It exceeds my expectations. They're space serials. Same with other genre movies. Superhero movies, dinosaur movies, westerns, etc. There will be outliers that are really something, but the baseline is entertainment. Kasey Kockroach, Holko, Pieter Boelen and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 I am completly against the idea that genre films should be any less serious than none-genre films. If anything, that they are as serious as they sometimes get, even when they have to do with ninjas in bat-suits or with vertically-challenged, hairy-footed people taking a piece of jewelry to a volcano (or to sneak past a fire-breathing, flying beast!) or about space-samurai, makes their earnestness all the more commendable. I think the early 2000s saw the most in the way of serious films in genre filmmaking, and with the rise of Marvel in this latest decade, we took a big step back towards the purely escapist genre cinema of the 80s. To me, those kinds of films serve as little more than "palette cleansers" between the more serious products. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 The next Star Wars movie will be (fill in the blank with whichever adjective will make you the least angry at me). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tom 4,688 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 Had just a few months ago someone told me that there would be a new SW movie with a new JW score in 2019 and that I would treat it with indifference on a good day and dread on a bad day, I would have found them thoroughly non-credible. But, here we are. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mstrox 6,661 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I am completly against the idea that genre films should be any less serious than none-genre films. If anything, that they are as serious as they sometimes get, even when they have to do with ninjas in bat-suits or with vertically-challenged, hairy-footed people taking a piece of jewelry to a volcano (or to sneak past a fire-breathing, flying beast!) or about space-samurai, makes their earnestness all the more commendable. Is "seriousness" a desirable quality in all circumstances? Does "fun" completely shut the door to seriousness? Does "seriousness" completely shut the door to fun? Pieter Boelen 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 20, 2018 Share Posted February 20, 2018 30 minutes ago, mstrox said: Is "seriousness" a desirable quality in all circumstances? With the expection of the odd "palette cleanser film" - yes. Its not a must by any means, but it is desirable. Makes the movie resonate more. As for whether that negates "fun" - well, not at all. Off the top of my head, The Desolation of Smaug is serious, even grizzly at times, but for the most part, I have a lot of fun watching it. But that's a three hour film, not a two-hour one like a Star Wars film. So it can have a bigger emotional palette, because there's enough time for both fun (e.g. Barrels out of Bond, some of the Laketown scenes) and for more weighty and tragic moments and set-pieces (Thrain, the corpses in the guard-room). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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John 2,032 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 hours ago, Chen G. said: As for whether that negates "fun" - well, not at all. Off the top of my head, The Desolation of Smaug is serious, even grizzly at times, but for the most part, I have a lot of fun watching it. But that's a three hour film, not a two-hour one like a Star Wars film. The Hobbit trilogy stopped being "fun" halfway through AUJ. For the most part, DOS and BOTFA are both dour chores to get through. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Dour is putting it mildly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 6 hours ago, JohnSolo said: The Hobbit trilogy stopped being "fun" halfway through AUJ. For the most part, DOS and BOTFA are both dour chores to get through. Interesting! That’s just about the exact point where I’d say the real fun begins, for me: from the moment Ragadast tells Gandalf of The Necromancer, and especially from when the Dwarves leave Rivendell going forward. It becomes less episodic and has a more focused point of view. Its cinematic fun, if you will. But that’s besides the point. It was just an example off the top of my head. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 741 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wow, differing opinions! That's amazing. My five cents: I'm sick and tired of "dark and dreary" which is often confused with "serious" in movie-land. I do appreciate if movies don't insult my intelligence, but I am very forgiving indeed when there's a good sense of fun. Ideally the two should be combined, which is certainly possible. In the end, the real world is more serious than any film could thankfully ever hope to be. And some escapism can be a very healthy diversion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 14 minutes ago, Pieter_Boelen said: Wow, differing opinions! That's amazing. My five cents: I'm sick and tired of "dark and dreary" which is often confused with "serious" in movie-land.[...]And some escapism can be a very healthy diversion. I think serious films do have to be quite dark. If you think about a lot of what passes for adventures and spectacle in a lot of big franchise films, well than, in real life, such events would make for quite a harrowing experience. Not that every film needs to be completly grim, but they can't be light and fluffy, either. To continu with my example, I think The Desolation of Smaug as an example that strikes a nice balance, whereas something like The Battle of the Five Armies is truly grim and somber, which is also great, but can't happen in every film. I'm all for escapist cinema, but as the odd "palette cleanser film", not as the bulk of genre filmmaking, as it is now. I think we regressed, in that sense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 A dark and oppressive version of Guardians of the Galaxy would be welcome. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 741 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 13 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I think serious films do have to be quite dark. Have you looked out of the window lately? The real world doesn't look dark. The real darkness lurks below. When I watched The Adventures of Robin Hood a while back, I was actually surprised by how many dark things occur and/or are mentioned in passing in that film. I thought that was quite well-done. Movies don't need to shy away from the dark, but that also doesn't mean they need to focus a huge amount of attention on it either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Yes, but genre films don't thrive in peacefull worlds; more often than not, they rely on some large-scale conflict within their world, essentially the equivalent of a large-scale war in our terms. I don't know how many wars you experienced (I experienced two), but its quite a dark, harrowing event. Not to say that every film in that genre needs to be outright harrowing (*paging The Battle of the Five Armies*) but they do need to be quite dark. In fact, I would argue that even in crafting a "fun" flick, you need low, dark points to constrast the fun, so it doesn't become a constant. You need to leverage fun with a sense of gravity. 19 minutes ago, Denise Bryson said: A dark and oppressive version of Guardians of the Galaxy would be welcome. As far as Marvel goes, I've come to refer to their entire output as something of a comedy. The way they're lit and shot, the potrayal of the villains, their use of "bathos"; the lack of any consequenes, on the tragic side of things, to the action, etc.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,698 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 "Comedy"...except that no-one is laughing, and these films have made in excess of $10,000,000,000! How simple the subduers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I don't mean that the films are laughable. I'm saying that, in term of genre, they're action-comedies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 Wouldn't audiences want a GotG that's darker, more evil? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,698 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 5 minutes ago, Chen G. said: I don't mean that the films are laughable. I'm saying that, in term of genre, they're action-comedies. I understand what you are saying, @Chen G., but I don't see anything funny in endless, mindless, cynical, casual death and destruction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 4,011 Posted February 21, 2018 Share Posted February 21, 2018 I think you're confusing Marvel with DC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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