Balahkay 627 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 No Midichlorians, says Abrams Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 It's a hive of fanboys and SJWs.Sounds like my kind of scum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sharkissimo 1,973 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I'm sorry, but asides from special effects (optical printing controlled by minicomputers; popularising step printing in the Magic Cave fight; rotoscoped, back-lit laser canons; Dolby Sound etc.) what were the OT's big innovations? Definitely not in terms of editing, story, dialogue or cinematography.I know it sounds a bit Life of Brian, but what did George Lucas do for us--and I don't mean creating a toy industry and infantilising Hollywood? Dixon Hill 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 I know it sounds a bit Life of Brian, but what did George Lucas do for us?He gave us John Williams' scores! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Spielberg did that first and more often, and with better results. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 No Midichlorians, says Abrams That's logical, it's not a big spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 5, 2015 Author Share Posted August 5, 2015 No Midichlorians, says Abrams That's logical, it's not a big spoiler.The best thing about this is the New Zealand cut.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Spielberg did that first and more often, and with better results.And yet ESB wins the JWFan favorite polls every time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The TFN boards are actually pretty okay nowadays, save the (as usual) thick-headed and easily offended PT fanboys. Also, the moderators are clearly pro-PT since it's usually only the prequel bashers (and not the insane and anal defenders) that get warnings and bans.Even something as simple as referring to SW as a "franchise" would have you barked at because it's a "degrading" term for movies with unplanned cash-in sequels. Whereas with SW, it was all part of JK Rowling's George's "grand plan". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Spielberg did that first and more often, and with better results. And yet ESB wins the JWFan favorite polls every time.So? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wojo 2,453 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Spielberg gave Williams the projects that led to George catching wind of him. By the time ESB came out, he was firing on all cylinders. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The TFN boards are actually pretty okay nowadays, save the (as usual) thick-headed and easily offended PT fanboys. Also, the moderators are clearly pro-PT since it's usually only the prequel bashers (and not the insane and anal defenders) that get warnings and bans.Even something as simple as referring to SW as a "franchise" would have you barked at because it's a "degrading" term for movies with unplanned cash-in sequels. Whereas with SW, it was all part of JK Rowling's George's "grand plan".It's not that bad anymore. Nowadays, you only have to worry about receiving a 3 page essay explaining why you're wrong any time you say anything derogatory about the prequels. Oh... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt C 454 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I'm sorry, but asides from special effects (optical printing controlled by minicomputers; popularising step printing in the Magic Cave fight; rotoscoped, back-lit laser canons; Dolby Sound etc.) what were the OT's big innovations? Definitely not in terms of editing, story, dialogue or cinematography.I know it sounds a bit Life of Brian, but what did George Lucas do for us--and I don't mean creating a toy industry and infantilising Hollywood?He created a tangible fictional world and twisted the fantasy tropes on its head with its sci-fi setting, which made it feel more innovative and magical at first glance. The way it came together captured the imagination of millions worldwide. I think that's what J.J. Abrams wants to bring back -- not just the aesthetic or the original actors -- but some of that original SW magic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 How can he though? Since George Lucas has already innovated tangible fictional worlds and the twisting of fantasy tropes on their head in sci-fi settings, how can J.J. do anything but imitate? Where's that *original* SW magic gonna come from this time? Perhaps the film is secretly planned to be a comedy, in order to make it feel more innovative and magical at first glance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 No Midichlorians, says Abrams “I’m assuming that the midi-chlorians are a race that everybody knows about [in the world of Star Wars]. The way you interact and interface with this larger energy field [the Force] is through the midi-chlorians, which are sensitive to the energy. They are at the core of your life, which is the cell, the living cell. They are in a symbiotic relationship with the cell. And then, because they’re all interconnected as one, they can communicate with the larger Force field. That’s how you deal with the Force.”“Midi-chlorians are like a single entity: meaning each one doesn’t think individually and have a life to itself; they think as a unit because there’s so many of them and they’re everywhere. They’re in every single cell. And sometimes there’s more than one in a cell. Sometimes there’s a whole bunch in a cell. But there has to be at least one in a cell, otherwise the cell can’t reproduce. All cells. Plant cells. Every life form has a midi-chlorian living inside of them.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Who came up with that pile of shite? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Good ol' George.You can check what's between the spoiler tags, by the way. Not a spoiler in any way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There's a scientific explanation behind everything, EVERYTHING. Midi-Chlorians was a brillant idea, it was just George Lucas putting a name on the "thing".It's like when scientific first discovered the subatomic particles, like electrons. They putted a name on the "thing".But Midi-Chlorians is a concept much too scientific for normal people. It was a thing of Jedi, when the Jedi Order ruled over the galaxy.It was already an old outdated concept in the origial trilogy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Suuuuure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There's a scientific explanation behind everything, EVERYTHING.Yes, YES! Let's explain faith scientifically! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 There's a scientific explanation behind everything, EVERYTHING. Midi-Chlorians was a brillant idea, it was just George Lucas putting a name on the "thing".It's like when scientific first discovered the subatomic particles, like electrons. They putted a name on the "thing".But Midi-Chlorians is a concept much too scientific for normal people. It was a thing of Jedi, when the Jedi Order ruled over the galaxy.It was already an old outdated concept in the origial trilogy...Fanboy present! Bespin 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 Of all things to worry about, Midichlorians are the least of my worries. In fact, they don't bother me at all.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Will we get more taxation of trade route disputes? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 We need taxation based on midichlorian counts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Were the Neimodians guilty of tax avoidance or tax evasion? crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I'm still not sure what the Neimodians were doing in Episode I. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I hope JJ will adress this! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Of all things to worry about, Midichlorians are the least of my worries. In fact, they don't bother me at all.KarolThey did me. It was the equivalent of being told that Neo was merely One in a long and typical sequence of Ones. Way to bin your movie's strong mythological element. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I predict the conspicuous absence of the Trade Federation in the original trilogy would indicate they will return in the new trilogy as the evil masterminds behind everything that has ever occurred. crocodile 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I learned on FB that Mark Hamill is 63, which was the age of Alec Guinness when he was filming Star Wars in 1977.Time passes! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,340 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 We had Guinness while the new generation will have Hamill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 And the next "new generation" will have Boyega! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 We had Guinness while the new generation will have Hamill.I'll drink a Guinness while watching Hamill in Episiode VII. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,340 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why not drink Hamill? Bespin and crocodile 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Find a beer named Boyega and I'll fall on my a**! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 I hope Abrams had the sense to include a scene featuring a vote of no-confidence in the New Republic's Chancellor.It could look amazing with modern day computer graphics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crocodile 8,017 Posted August 6, 2015 Author Share Posted August 6, 2015 Do you think they will go a full circle and get back to trade route taxes in the very final Star Wars film? After all, this is what kicked off all this madness. Would be a nice bookend.Karol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Muad'Dib 1,802 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 When the creator of the concept starts with "I'm assuming..." I take it as a very bad sign. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ins 42 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 When the creator of the concept starts with "I'm assuming..." I take it as a very bad sign.Hehe, I was there, got the t-shirt and... a harsh review of my paper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Bespin and DarthDementous 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,340 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ins 42 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Fake!Obvious fake is obvious Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Do you think they will go a full circle and get back to trade route taxes in the very final Star Wars film? After all, this is what kicked off all this madness. Would be a nice bookend.It's like poetry, it rhymes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bespin 8,484 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Find a beer named Boyega and I'll fall on my a**!Prepare to land that ass! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,357 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 The TFN boards are actually pretty okay nowadays, save the (as usual) thick-headed and easily offended PT fanboys. Also, the moderators are clearly pro-PT since it's usually only the prequel bashers (and not the insane and anal defenders) that get warnings and bans.Even something as simple as referring to SW as a "franchise" .Try calling Indiana Jones a franchise at the The Raven boards. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Why don't they like that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,357 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 They say that the word franchise is inaccurate, and that it is a series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 No it isnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,357 Posted August 6, 2015 Share Posted August 6, 2015 Found the thread:http://raven.theraider.net/showthread.php?t=23127Why do certain people keep referring to the Indiana Jones theatrical film series as "the franchise"? The misuse of this term has been noticeable since c.2007 and grown at an exponential rate ever since. Not only is the definition wrong, it's pretentious.Franchise is all about rights, permission and privilege. The 'franchise to vote' is a right to vote. Sports team franchises pay money to be allowed entry into their respective leagues. The James Bond film franchise has the license to use Ian Fleming's character and stories. Don't get me started with McDonald's and other fast food chains...The "Indy franchise" is NOT THE MOVIES (nor the TV show). The Bantam books are a franchise. The Marvel & Dark Horse comics are a franchise. The Mattel & Hasbro toys are a franchise, etc. because the character & branding were licensed by those 2nd party entities. This is not the case with the films. LUCASFILM OWNS INDIANA JONES (even if Disney now owns Lucasfilm) and do not need anyone's authorization to use the property. This is the distinction that many people fail to recognize when describing the 'Indy film series' as a franchise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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