Giftheck 917 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 C-3PO swapped his silver right leg for a red left arm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 i guess the creators stressing all the time about using practical effects, means automatically that they admit that CGI "is not good"? DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is that a new trailer? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 i guess the creators stressing all the time about using practical effects, means automatically that they admit that CGI "is not good"?No. It's just a marketing ploy used to reassure fans who kept on bashing the Prequels for overusing CGI. Nothing more. I doubt JJ or anyone else on the team think CG is not good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 i guess the creators stressing all the time about using practical effects, means automatically that they admit that CGI "is not good"?No. It's just a marketing ploy used to reassure fans who kept on bashing the Prequels for overusing CGI. Nothing more. I doubt JJ or anyone else on the team think CG is not good.Marketing ploy or not the film makers are heavily emphasising that they went back to an older film making mentality by using more real sets and practical effects (creatures etc) side by side with the CG as it is their belief this made the original trilogy so appealing because it gave it tangible solid reality sorely lacking in the all-CG enviroment of the Prequels where main cast obviously often just wandering in the green screen sets reacting to little tennis balls on a stick or people in blue gimp suits holding a marker.Undoubtedly if CG had been available to Lucas in 1980s he would have used it extensively back then and when he was forced to settle for the special effects of the day, it actually gave the original movies a patina of believability and realism that most people felt lacking in Prequels scenes "where every frame has so much going on" but none of it actually feels very real. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is that a new trailer?No. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
filmmusic 1,838 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I feel like filmmusic wants to believe that, because he would find comfort in knowing other people think like him when it comes to CG, that it's the devil's work and should be banned altogether from the cinema industry.Ι don't need to find anyone, because I've already found many that share my views. Anyway, besides that, even if CGI is used as a tool and in a very good way too, I still feel awe when I know something is tangible.For example the crowd and sets in Cleopatra (1963) would still give me goosebumps and leave my mouth open, even compared to a contemporary film which used CGI crowd and sets and they were really good, but you know they just did it in the computer...The former is what I call a FILM PRODUCTION, the latter is what I call a "make-it-quickly-and-cheap-to-get-on-with-it" film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Incanus 5,715 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Don't get me wrong: I'm not saying that JJ using practical effects is a marketing ploy, rather that him and others working on the film overstressing the fact that they're using practical effects is, and that it doesn't mean in any way that they think CG isn't good.I feel like filmmusic wants to believe that, because he would find comfort in knowing other people think like him when it comes to CG, that it's the devil's work and should be banned altogether from the cinema industry.I think that, sure, JJ values practical effects over CG as he believes it gives the whole world a more tangible feel onscreen, etc. but also that he thinks CG has its place and can be a wonderful tool when used properly (and we've seen that there'll still be a lot of CG anyway).That's it.I thought I was saying that more or less. But yes we agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 They're using practical effects?Why?? CGI can do everything better! Lucas proved you don't even need actors anymore! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Is that a new trailer?No.Thanks. The thumbnail pic I'd never seem before, Ford looks great in it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cerebral Cortex 3,357 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Entertainment Weekly: Star Wars: The Force Awakens - Harrison's Ford Return as Han Solo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 There will be, of course, more CGI than practical effects in TFA. But this marketing is tricking people into thinking it will mostly be practical effects. Kind in mind that the prequels (specifically TPM and AOTC) had A LOT of miniatures and practical effects. I was stunned to find out that the arena in AOTC was actually a miniature because it all looks CGI in the film to me. I'm not sure what they did to that film, but everything looks fake. Sometimes even the actors looked fake. Hopefully they'll find the right balance to make it all, at least, look believable in TFA. However, I'd take a good story over good effects any day. Having both would be ideal, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Yup.I'm sure this film will look fantastic. Question is, will the story and content back that up? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Or will it truly be a return to OT form? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm sure this film will look fantastic. Question is, will the story and content back that up?Agreed, that's my only concern. I have faith in the production design, special effects, directing, acting, and score. The story and dialogue is the unknown factor Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 I'm really curious now about who Finn, Rey and Kylo Ren really are. That could make or break the story, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 917 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's pretty obvious who Kylo Ren and Rey are supposed to be. Finn... the only logical thought I had that could tie into anything previous was that he could be the illegitimate grandson of a certain potty-mouthed Jedi Master who fell to his death almost 60 years prior. Or they could go the crack route and it turns out he's Ackbar's son with Mon Mothma or something.Nothing on Max von Sydow's character, though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 It's pretty obvious who Kylo Ren and Rey are supposed to be. Finn... the only logical thought I had that could tie into anything previous was that he could be the illegitimate grandson of a certain potty-mouthed Jedi Master who fell to his death almost 60 years prior. Or they could go the crack route and it turns out he's Ackbar's son with Mon Mothma or something.Nothing on Max von Sydow's character, though?I think Kylo is kind of obvious, but what about Rey? In terms of relations, I think there are a few possibilities for her. Again, talking about relations, there at least 4 possibilities for Finn, 3 of which would be highly unlikely. It seems the most likely would be a relative of Lando. Then again, I thought I read they weren't specifically casting a particular race for Finn. If that's the case, then his last name may not have anything to do with existing characters... unless if something changed story-wise since Boyega was cast. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lewya 360 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Leaked picture of Luke -h Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 13, 2015 Share Posted August 13, 2015 Great picture! But I would suggest you put it in spoiler tags. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yup.I'm sure this film will look fantastic. Question is, will the story and content back that up?From what I've heard so far, I'm afraid the answer will be mostly no. Toy Story 2 + more emotions. People really liked it (for some reason) and it was even nominated for some very high profile Oscars (for some reason)The general outline of the story is pretty much A New Hope 2.0, which with Abrams should be fun in its own right but it's not really enough. Perhaps if Abrams really nails it in the characters/emotions department it'll work. After all, Toy Story 3 was little more than Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Is that pic confirmed real? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Yes.Lots of leaks recently. Wonder if we'll get anything from the score anytime soon... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Is that pic confirmed real? It's been removed from many sites, so it's definitely real and wasnt meant to be seen. Yes.Lots of leaks recently. Wonder if we'll get anything from the score anytime soon...That would be ideal but I imagine it's easier to leak a picture than sound or even video. It may also be easier to track down who leaked the music.Yes.Lots of leaks recently. Wonder if we'll get anything from the score anytime soon...That would be ideal but I imagine it's easier to leak a picture than sound or even video. It may also be easier to track down who leaked the music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Can't wait to see what Williams has in store for this sequence. That's what I was wondering when looking at this, the other pictures and teasers. How is Williams going to score these scenes?I think it would be great to have something in the vein of The Last Crusade's "Escape From Venice" in that scene. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Thanks to all of you for putting that stuff in spoiler tags Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Me too and I still have no idea how Luke looks. Lee - guaranteed to enjoy the movie more than most here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Am I the only one who thinks seeing a costume Luke will wear in the movie doesn't really spoil anything?I mean, we saw a costume Han will be wearing when he showed up in the trailer. How is this different? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quintus 5,399 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 It's not different and it doesn't spoil anything. I just like mystery and to be surprised.I know, it's an archaic concept to you internet harvesters, but hey. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If it's not officially from Lucasfilm, it's not something they want us to see. Specifically at this point, they have avoided showing Luke at all in any of the footage or pictures. I'm guessing they want his first appearance, whether it be in the final trailer or in the film itself, to be something special or magical for the viewer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Get an Exclusive First Look at the CoverGirl x Star Wars CampaignFreaky Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Sexy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Romão 2,274 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 If it's not officially from Lucasfilm, it's not something they want us to see. Specifically at this point, they have avoided showing Luke at all in any of the footage or pictures. I'm guessing they want his first appearance, whether it be in the final trailer or in the film itself, to be something special or magical for the viewer.That's my stance as well. I'll only take a look at what Lucasfilm releases oficially. I trust their criteria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Until they release a trailer showing Kylo Ren saying "I am your uncle!" to Rey. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A posey still of Luke as an old fart is a spoiler? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Anything not officially released by Lucasfilm is a spoiler. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Uh huh.Too broad a definition. I rather believe that anything that gives away a significant plot twist is a spoiler.Leaked set pics tell me nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Lucasfilm released those Entertainment Weekly pics in high res w/ no watermarkshttp://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/471687-high-res-star-wars-the-force-awakens-photos-released Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Uh huh.Too broad a definition. I rather believe that anything that gives away a significant plot twist is a spoiler.Leaked set pics tell me nothing."Anything not officially released" is the most narrow/specific definition of spoilers there is - any other definition involves the judgment of the person sharing them, which may not align with everybody else. DarthDementous 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,372 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Uh huh.Too broad a definition. I rather believe that anything that gives away a significant plot twist is a spoiler.Leaked set pics tell me nothing. "Anything not officially released" is the most narrow/specific definition of spoilers there is - any other definition involves the judgment of the person sharing them, which may not align with everybody else.I've seen people fret about glancing at some background character's name in an early cast list for AOTC and panicking that the whole movie has been ruined for them.If learning that Luke has certain fashion preferences as a Jedi is a "spoiler" for some people, they need to get some perspective. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 Just because you don't want to know something doesn't mean that it will ruin the whole movie for you.I follow enough Star Wars fans on Twitter that I've seen some things I'd rather not have seen, and I'm sure I'll see more as we get closer to the release date. I'm glad that whoever posted the pic above, put it in spoiler tags as a base level of consideration for those who don't want to see it. Nobody loses in that scenario. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 I've already forgotten what the pic looks like. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 No, it's too late: you're gonna hate the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A24 4,345 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The film is going to entertain. Drax is going to love it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,318 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 A stealth remake of New Hope?You mean... the film with Williams' best score of all time?Perfectly alright with me! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted August 14, 2015 Share Posted August 14, 2015 The film is going to entertain. Drax is going to love it. I'll watch it multiple times if someone uploads it on YouTube as an ASMR vid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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