Arpy 4,145 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: In my toilet. My ass is the specialty label that score deserves. I'm sure if we use a good Kleenex, some detergent and the spirit of determination, we can recover it. Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 Good luck with that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I always wondered how Yoda built his home on Dagobah... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 The JP3 score is perfectly fine, if not lacking any memorable new themes. I prefer it over JW1 even. But a complete release would have to include the film edits of certain tracks, or else I dont care. (and the pteranodon cage intro, even if that was taken from somewhere else) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frank Vincent 234 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 On 9/19/2018 at 5:26 PM, scallenger said: Has there been a release of JURASSIC WORLD or JURASSIC WORLD: FALLEN KINGDOM in a standard jewel case and NOT a digibook (likely not in the United States since I am pretty sure it has been a digibook)? I don't think so. All Back Lot Music releases I've seen so far have digipacks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Penna 3,694 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 3 hours ago, MedigoScan said: The JP3 score is perfectly fine, if not lacking any memorable new themes. I prefer it over JW1 even. But a complete release would have to include the film edits of certain tracks, or else I dont care. (and the pteranodon cage intro, even if that was taken from somewhere else) Yeah same here! The cage intro was either library percussion or some sort of isolated percussion from the first score. I'm not sure which. I'm not optimistic that it would be included though, given some recent astounding omissions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted November 20, 2018 Share Posted November 20, 2018 I don’t mind JP3’s score, actually. I like the Spino motif. But D. Davis certainly overdoes it with the Williams theme...though apparently, he was pressured to use it a lot? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1977 1,743 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Been listening to this quite a bit in the car and am really enjoying it. Seems I'm one of the few who do though. Why does Gia seem to be so reviled by film score fans? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 People like to hate on things that are popular and successful. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Sure, that's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, JTWfan77 said: Been listening to this quite a bit in the car and am really enjoying it. Seems I'm one of the few who do though. Why does Gia seem to be so reviled by film score fans? Because John Williams fans are insecure about their favorite composer’s alpha status. TSMefford and Mr. Who 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post John 2,032 Posted January 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2019 I’ve not once seen a convincing argument for how Giacchino is a poor composer. Chen G., Ollie, Arpy and 2 others 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 He's well meaning but ham fisted. A rather mediocre thematic writer, very static action music. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 1 hour ago, John said: I’ve not once seen a convincing argument for how Giacchino is a poor composer. He's not outright poor, just not as good as many others but given a lot of opportunities for dream projects that other composers arguably deserve more. That acknowledged, give me Giacchino over Desplat or Tyler or Rupert-Gregson Williams any day, to name a few jugheads. A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post TSMefford 1,509 Posted January 14, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted January 14, 2019 I've never understood the dislike for Giacchino. He's my number 2 behind Williams. Ollie, Dr. Rick, The Illustrious Jerry and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 9 hours ago, JTWfan77 said: Been listening to this quite a bit in the car and am really enjoying it. Seems I'm one of the few who do though. Why does Gia seem to be so reviled by film score fans? I've only ever really experienced this on JWFan, it's just plain old snobbery. Love him, hate him, just indifferent - fine, but proclamations of skill, lack of skill are going to be subjective. Ironically there's only one composer who dwarfs all others in the amount of praise they receive on this forum and his name isn't even John Williams, it's Jerry Goldsmith! 6 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: He's not outright poor, just not as good as many others but given a lot of opportunities for dream projects that other composers arguably deserve more. That acknowledged, give me Giacchino over Desplat or Tyler or Rupert-Gregson Williams any day, to name a few jugheads. How can you tell what Giacchino deserves, or what anyone else deserves? Clearly, he was given these projects (especially in the last few years) because of the repertoire he had built over the last decade, and friendships with filmmakers and composers alike. If they didn't like the music he was producing they'd have easily gone to the next guy in line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'd just like a bit more variety, as for awhile he was getting every other big blockbuster assignment. Not Mr. Big and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I will admit that he has done a heck of a lot of movies in the past decade or so. I mean, look: 2018: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, Bad Times at the El Royale, Incredibles 2, NASA Piece 2017: Spiderman: Homecoming, War for the Planet of the Apes, The Book of Henry, Coco 2016: Zootopia, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, Doctor Strange, Star Trek Beyond 2015:Jupiter Ascending, Tomorrowland, Inside Out, Jurassic World 2014: Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 2013: Star Trek Into Darkness 2012: John Carter 2011: Cars 2, Super 8, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol 2009: Star Trek, UP, Land of the Lost 2007: Ratatouille He's been an industry staple for a while now, and it seems he's been scoring films left, right and centre, especially looking at the past four years. He's already signed up for Jurassic World III and Spiderman: Far From Home. He's been busy, and for all the scores he's composed there are definitely good ones and also not as good ones. But he has an impressive repertoire, and everyone at the very least should recognize this. Chen G. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Warrior of Wet Dreams said: I'd just like a bit more variety, as for awhile he was getting every other big blockbuster assignment. Each of the assignments have given Giacchino an opportunity to do a variety of styles! 1 hour ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: I will admit that he has done a heck of a lot of movies in the past decade or so. I mean, look: 2018: Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom, Bad Times at the El Royale, Incredibles 2, NASA Piece 2017: Spiderman: Homecoming, War for the Planet of the Apes, The Book of Henry, Coco 2016: Zootopia, Rogue One: A Star Wars Story, Doctor Strange, Star Trek Beyond 2015:Jupiter Ascending, Tomorrowland, Inside Out, Jurassic World 2014: Dawn of the Planet of the Apes 2013: Star Trek Into Darkness 2012: John Carter 2011: Cars 2, Super 8, Mission Impossible: Ghost Protocol 2009: Star Trek, UP, Land of the Lost 2007: Ratatouille He's been an industry staple for a while now, and it seems he's been scoring films left write and centre, especially looking at the past four years. He's already signed up for Jurassic World III and Spiderman: Far From Home. He's been busy, and for all the scores he's composed there are definitely good ones and also not as good ones. But he has an impressive repertoire, and everyone at the very least should recognize this. You missed out Speed Racer! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 3 hours ago, Arpy said: Ironically there's only one composer who dwarfs all others in the amount of praise they receive on this forum and his name isn't even John Williams, it's Jerry Goldsmith! Yes! Because Jerry Is Better Than Everything! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, Arpy said: Each of the assignments have given Giacchino an opportunity to do a variety of styles! You missed out Speed Racer! Speed Racer is a career highlight for Giacchino and the Wachowskis Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Stefancos said: Because Jerry Is Better Than Everything! Thanks Steef! Love you too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post mstrox 6,651 Posted March 4, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 4, 2019 Just finished my first listen of this, wrapping up all of my Christmas gifts after over two months. wow! I remember liking this when I saw the movie, but I am very impressed. Almost makes me sheepish about how much I liked (and still like) his first Jurassic World, based on how big of a jump in quality this was. Big moments, nice pacing with the gentler stuff, deft use of Williams’ themes (unlike the mangling in the first Jurassic World). Maybe a little long, and a bit meandering in the middle, which is probably par for longer albums. Top tier, as Giacchino is concerned. As big a jump as we saw from his first Apes score to his second. Almost enough to forgive him for the roteness of Incredibles 2! (I’m going to listen a few more times this week, but this also clears the way for me to listen to my first post-Christmas purchase - Superman: The Movie!) crumbs, Kasey Kockroach, The Illustrious Jerry and 3 others 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I like it more than the first one too. In fact, I think I like all Giacchino sequel scores more than the original, barring the same one you pointed out, Incredibles 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Initially I thought Incredibles 2 was slightly disappointing, but I've been revisiting it a bit lately and think it's a fine score, especially the raucous and walloping build-up to the finale. I just wish it had included some of the quieter cues from the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 Oh I don't think it's bad at all, just not as good as the first one is all Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mstrox 6,651 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 I used the word “roteness” intentionally. It was a perfectly fine score - effective in the movie, fine on album. It’s also exactly what I would have expected from a direct sequel score to The Incredible - nothing more, nothing less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 It's my second favorite Jurassic score in general, in terms of album listening (Lost World is still tops). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 48 minutes ago, Kasey Kockroach said: It's my second favorite Jurassic score in general, in terms of album listening (Lost World is still tops). Now that's going too far! A. A. Ron 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted March 5, 2019 Share Posted March 5, 2019 And even then, it's close as TLW's theme isn't all that interesting. TLW just wins out for atmosphere alone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evanus 217 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Well, it seems the recording sessions have finally uh, appeared online.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A. A. Ron 1,742 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Would you look at that -- so it has. Thanks for the tip! Evanus 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 30, 2019 Share Posted November 30, 2019 Giacchino's sessions for blockbusters movies eventually leak, one way or another. Rogue One is a little late, though... Maybe Lucasfilm's vaults are better guarded? Anyway, bad news for Williams' and Powell's Solo's fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 1, 2019 Share Posted December 1, 2019 There’s good little stuff within the excluded cues, but overall appreciate the album as is. The only cue I would have included is “Malcom Before the Storm”. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MedigoScan 324 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 There's some good stuff in the already known cues too actually. Like the (full) chorus in Shock and Auction. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 2, 2019 Share Posted December 2, 2019 Upon closer listen, there's actually some great worthwhile stuff here (I dismissed this at first as I largely heard some fine but insignificant action cues)! "A Maisie Grace" has a lovely unique take on the Fallen Kingdom theme. I would definitely add that, "Malcom Before the Storm" and "Call of the Riled" to my playlist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 12/1/2019 at 5:47 AM, Evanus said: Well, it seems the recording sessions have finally uh, appeared online.. There's a shock. It's like Gia's leaking them himself. Why can't we ever get bloody Star Wars scores to leak?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Who cares, Jurassic’s better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 I'm waiting for Gia's Far from Home leaking the sessions, which may happen next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dr. Rick 1,157 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 Same here, really dug FFH OST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 3, 2019 Share Posted December 3, 2019 On 3/5/2019 at 8:54 AM, Kasey Kockroach said: TLW's theme isn't all that interesting. I don't know why, but I really, REALLY like that theme. There's something oddly satisfying about it for me. Woefully underused though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 To put it one way, I like what Williams does with it more than the theme inherently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 That's 99% of the case when Williams' themes are adapted by other composers. I don't think anyone has truly had the same command of something like the Force theme the way he has. I think Giacchino came close in Rogue One, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 hours ago, Arpy said: I think Giacchino came close in Rogue One, though. Interesting... personally I don't think Gia had any idea how to handle that theme in Rogue One. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 29 minutes ago, crumbs said: Interesting... personally I don't think Gia had any idea how to handle that theme in Rogue One. I like it's use as counterpoint in 'Rogue One' with the little fugue. I get that I'm in the minority on Rogue One's score, though, so your reaction isn't surprising. 1977 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Arpy said: I get that I'm in the minority on Rogue One's score, though, so your reaction isn't surprising. Yeah, nothing personal We all have different opinions, I'm just not a huge fan of his score but I appreciate he was under difficult time constraints. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I enjoy Solo more, but still appreciate R1 for what it is, and for a spinoff film score I think it does well. Although I'm of the opinion anyone scoring Star Wars other than Williams is walking into a minefield of expectations and a giant legacy established over forty years. Even Gorannsson with The Mandalorian still has to use some of Williams' vocabulary to keep things familiar. It's a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' thing... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 minutes ago, Arpy said: Although I'm of the opinion anyone scoring Star Wars other than Williams is walking into a minefield of expectations and a giant legacy established over forty years. Even Gorannsson with The Mandalorian still has to use some of Williams' vocabulary to keep things familiar. It's a 'damned if you do, damned if you don't' thing... Absolutely, and I'm sure any director who enters the franchise feels the same pressure. Make it too familiar/similar to the past and you'll be criticised for playing it safe, go too far outside the mould/be different and you'll be torn to shreds like Johnson has. It's a seriously toxic fandom. Arpy 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bofur01 245 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Though most SW fans I've seen or talked to absolutely love the soundtrack to The Mandalorian, and a surprising number have said they like it far more than JW's sequel scores Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pieter Boelen 740 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 8 minutes ago, Bofur01 said: Though most SW fans I've seen or talked to absolutely love the soundtrack to The Mandalorian, and a surprising number have said they like it far more than JW's sequel scores The world hasn't stood still since 1977. The sequel scores are quite old-fashioned. The Mandalorian isn't. Can't say I'm surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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