Jay 37,364 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chewy 2,391 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Strange! It sometimes sounds like TFA re-recorded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 Sounds exactly like the TFA recording to me. Can't say I'm disappointed there's no new music here, it's just another potential score spoiler avoided. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 17, 2017 Share Posted November 17, 2017 I love that new, slower version of The Journey Home at the end! But it sounds more like an unused alternate from TFA than something new from TLJ. Could well be something from TLJ but seems a little too direct a lift from a previous score for JW's liking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, crumbs said: I love that new, slower version of The Journey Home at the end! But it sounds more like an unused alternate from TFA than something new from TLJ. Could well be something from TLJ but seems a little too direct a lift from a previous score for JW's liking. Chamber of Secrets... In all seriousness, maybe it's Haab. I haven't really listened to it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Gordy didn't write the music. I talk with him all the time, so I would have known about it. BF2 was the last project he was involved in, as he basically is only scoring the games right now. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Dixon Hill 4,234 Posted November 18, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 18, 2017 9 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: Gordy didn't write the music. I talk with him all the time You his psychiatrist? Will, MikeH and Manakin Skywalker 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KK 3,307 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Guess he couldn't afford Blume. BLUMENKOHL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2:18 - 2:40 is a new, playful variation on March of the Resistance. Not previously heard in TFA's final score nor in the leaked unused music. Possibly TLJ music? 2:40 - 2:49 is indecipherable, probably just sound effects 2:50 - 2:56 just sounds like Arrival at Takodana from TFA 2:57 - 3:18 is Superstructure Chase from Return of the Jedi 3:19 - 4:05 is Scherzo for X-Wings from TFA 4:06 - 4:30 is an alternate version of The Journey Home from TFA. Possibly a new version of that cue from TLJ? I'm inclined to think if they just reused TFA music for the Crait sequence (rather than Williams' actual cue from TLJ) then the rest is probably just unused music from TFA we haven't heard yet. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Or a re-recording/arrangement Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Scherzo for X-Wings sounds identical, as does Arrival on Takodana. There might be some performance differences in the ROTJ material though, which is interesting. Note that Superstructure Chase is only available in the 1997 SEs, which Disney have seemingly 'scrapped' or considered unworthy for release. Could indicate newer transfers have been made for the OT scoring sessions, not just the OST masters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 2 hours ago, TheGreyPilgrim said: You his psychiatrist? Let's just say he has some... daddy issues... John Williams is his father. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Will 2,215 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Wow that (presumed) "The Journey Home" alternate really is great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Why, JJ, why?! Was he just hoarding as many alternates as possible on the assumption he'd never get another chance to work with Williams? Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Obi 404 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Maz with a Jetpack! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
karelm 2,913 Posted November 18, 2017 Share Posted November 18, 2017 Just sounds like an edit of pre-existing material. Possibly alternate takes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DarthDementous 1,059 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 god damn it, I got excited because I remember last time recognising that the music from the Jakku Star Tours update video could be from the new score and it was, albeit a shortened alternate. on the other hand it makes my worry as I heard it of 'wow this just sounds like TFA again' invalid, since it quite literally is just TFA with some alternates. the march of the resistance one sounds interesting, but I'm inclined to believe its more of an alternate rather than a TLJ recording. they seem to be really under wraps with the TLJ music, even more-so with TFA since they quite happily gave parts of the score to the scene around this time before the movie came out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fancyarcher 350 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 Sounds like a bunch of "outtakes / alternates" to me. Doesn't seem there's much in the way of more new music for the film, but I doubt it's the main overall score. It isn't like Williams to 100% recycle anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xinau 14 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 On 11/17/2017 at 5:22 PM, crumbs said: I love that new, slower version of The Journey Home at the end! Love seeing that track get some love. This & the one immediately after (Farewell & the Trip) are my favorites on the entire TFA soundtrack. The movie goes thru a whole series of emotional beats in rapid succession during those tracks, and the music just flows effortlessly in support of each one. JW at his most masterful, IMO. Will and crumbs 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted November 19, 2017 Share Posted November 19, 2017 The Journey Home is one of my favorites from TFA. I'm curious as to why they would use alternates/unused music from TFA in Star Tours especially when the other TFA music seem to be direct from the soundtrack. The OT music sounds a bit different, too. DarthDementous and Obi 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted November 19, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 19, 2017 5 hours ago, Xinau said: Love seeing that track get some love. This & the one immediately after (Farewell & the Trip) are my favorites on the entire TFA soundtrack. The movie goes thru a whole series of emotional beats in rapid succession during those tracks, and the music just flows effortlessly in support of each one. Absolutely, it's probably the strongest stretch of music in the film. It's just that instantly recognizable, effortless John Williams in Star Wars mode writing we all know and love. Not one moment under or overscored; just a superb selection of music right to the end of the credits. Very glad Williams gave us the entirety of the finale unedited on the OST (unlike all the terrible edits in the glorious ROTS finale). Arpy, Cerebral Cortex, Xinau and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 The track absolutely is microedited, or rather, it contains the "Farewell" music and "The Trip" music, without the "R2 Wakes Up" cue that goes in between them, instead presenting that cue earlier in the album in "Rey Meets BB-8" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 I've updated the thread title to say "NEW Force Awakens alternates premiere in new Last Jedi Star Tours update" Obi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 20, 2017 Share Posted November 20, 2017 7 hours ago, Jay said: The track absolutely is microedited, or rather, it contains the "Farewell" music and "The Trip" music, without the "R2 Wakes Up" cue that goes in between them, instead presenting that cue earlier in the album in "Rey Meets BB-8" Ah, yes, totally forgot about that! So it was R2 Wakes Up that they tracked into Rey Meets BB8, not vice-versa? I remember Williams saying they had a lot of trouble finding the right 'tone' for the latter scene, so I'm guessing the final result was tracked with Williams' consultation (considering the OST followed suit). The R2 cue also segues perfectly into The Trip, whereas the Rey Meets BB8 version awkwardly transitions to that First Order fanfare. Will 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,364 Posted November 20, 2017 Author Share Posted November 20, 2017 We don't know FOR SURE until the sheet music leaks, but it seems MUCH more likely that it's the cue from the end of the movie tracked into the beginning, and they replicated that tracking for the OST album - something Williams has done before, on for example The Accidental Tourist and Tintin. crumbs 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The "TIE Fighter Attack" piece sounds like a new recording. They must've dabbled with using it in the Falcon scene before ultimately not using it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 In this video, it sounds like an unreleased alternate of The Falcon, not merely the track on the OST. Geez, is there anything JW didn't have to record multiple times with TFA?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toothless 963 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, crumbs said: Geez, is there anything JW didn't have to record multiple times with TFA?! It's purportedly the name of the first track in TJL album : 01 - Main title and geez, is there anything JW didn't have to record multiple times with TFA?! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post crumbs 14,316 Posted November 21, 2017 Popular Post Share Posted November 21, 2017 JW's already drafting his resignation letter for IX. I'm expecting several passive-aggressive jabs at JJ in his TLJ track titles, such as First And Final Version of Finale and End Credits. Smeltington, Holko and toothless 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BloodBoal 7,538 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1. Main Title and The Only Version I Wrote of 1M2 greenturnedblue and Arpy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MikeH 768 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 7 hours ago, crumbs said: Geez, is there anything JW didn't have to record multiple times with TFA?! Yeah, I guess we shouldn’t pick on him for his sketches saying things like C3PO Wakes Up considering it was probably the twelfth time he wrote the cue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 It also goes a long way to explaining the "thinner" streamlined orchestrations, despite how much time he had. Ultimately most of that extra time was eaten up by rewrites. I think we'll learn a lot from TLJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,894 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 He'll just stop naming the cues altogether. The first track will just be "1M1 and 1M2". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 7 minutes ago, Manakin Skywalker said: He'll just stop naming the cues altogether. The first track will just be "1M1 and 1M2". I mean........ MikeH and Manakin Skywalker 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mrbellamy 6,287 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 So that use of "Superstructure Chase" was a double bluff! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Faleel 5,349 Posted December 14, 2017 Share Posted December 14, 2017 Spoilers! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,316 Posted December 15, 2017 Share Posted December 15, 2017 Yeah didn't appreciate that TLJ score spoiler when I read this thread two days ago... ruined the surprise Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 After watching the video again, :35 sounds like music from Luke and Kylo’s “fight.” Taikomochi and Chewy 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted February 19, 2018 Share Posted February 19, 2018 The E.T. ride at Universal Studios is better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drew 590 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 The only alternate I heard was the "Finale and the Trip" segment being a half step lower than it should be. The rest of the alternates were actually segments of the TLJ score ("Fun With Finn and Rose" and "The Battle of Crait"). All that speculation but there was already TLJ music here a month early... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 8 hours ago, Drew said: The only alternate I heard was the "Finale and the Trip" segment being a half step lower than it should be. The rest of the alternates were actually segments of the TLJ score ("Fun With Finn and Rose" and "The Battle of Crait"). All that speculation but there was already TLJ music here a month early... 2 Where in the video do you hear this music? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 The "TIE Fighter" segment scoring Crait is really from The Battle of Crait, and "Finn and Rose" is under Maz calling. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I meant to only bold "Fun With Finn and Rose." The sound effects drown out a good part of the music in spots, but I didn't hear that music. Aside from "Here They Come," I only heard a small bit from Luke and Kylo's confrontation. I guess it really doesn't matter at this point. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oswin Pond 58 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 I'm 100% sure it's Fun With Finn and Rose and The Battle of Crait. This was under our nose for a month ! And 0:35 is the fight with Luke and Kylo when we see the close up to Kylo's face with his lightsaber on from the first teaser. If I'm not mistaken this cue isn't in the OST or the For Your Consideration either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Balahkay 627 Posted February 27, 2018 Share Posted February 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Oswin Pond said: I'm 100% sure it's Fun With Finn and Rose and The Battle of Crait. This was under our nose for a month ! And 0:35 is the fight with Luke and Kylo when we see the close up to Kylo's face with his lightsaber on from the first teaser. If I'm not mistaken this cue isn't in the OST or the For Your Consideration either 3 Ah, you're right. When I heard it, I was thinking it was an unreleased MOTR bit from TFA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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