John 2,032 Posted March 26, 2019 Author Share Posted March 26, 2019 Well there goes that thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SteveMc 2,674 Posted March 26, 2019 Share Posted March 26, 2019 Unless the mods re-contain it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 27, 2019 Author Share Posted March 27, 2019 This aggression will not stand, man! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 It wasn't related to Rey. The Aftermath novels kind of poorly explain it. I think we're going to get an explanation about Rey, but it's not going to be Palpatine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Palpatine is a politician. I have observed that he is very clever in following the passions and the prejudices of the senators. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fabulin 3,514 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 He was holding in a big Force Fart throughout the whole scene not to make it awkward. That's why he walks funny instead of spinning through the room with a jump. Bilbo and Docteur Qui 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Fabulin 3,514 Posted March 27, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 27, 2019 Spinning is a good trick Bayesian, Docteur Qui and The Illustrious Jerry 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 On 27/03/2019 at 12:23 AM, Fabulin said: What is that blue wind after Palpatine dies? The blue wind happens just a few seconds after Palpatine was tossed in the pit - long before his body would have hit the bottom. Perhaps that the blue wind was the visual sign that Palpatine had transferred his life force out of his body... to his Contingency project on Jakuu. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 I thought he fell into some electrical equipment and the "wind" was a powerful transient wave. Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naïve Old Fart 9,544 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 That "wind" was the first completed SFX shot for ROTJ. The last (I believe) was the "right angle" shot, as the Tyderium approaches The Executor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 20 hours ago, Mattris said: Sam Witwer voiced Palpatine during the Star Wars Rebels Season 2 premiere. Ian McDiarmid returned for episodes in Season 4. My point is that his recent increased presence is curious. Isn't Ian McDiarmid a fan favourite? I remember when Star Wars fans were so happy when he voiced the Emperor is Season 4, and his role in the Prequels is one of the highlights. I think people just like him, and his involvement in Star Wars has been in two of the main trilogies, and a TV show. And he has been going to Star Wars celebrations for a while. He's always been pretty busy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 He looked about 90 in RotJ. He'd be a hundred million years old by now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 It looks like Rey repaired her lightsaber. Hopefully, the film can do the same for the trilogy... and fandom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 It will, I can feel it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 Also... no Hux, Rose, or Leia. Chen G. and A. A. Ron 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 27 minutes ago, The Illustrious Jerry said: Isn't Ian McDiarmid a fan favourite? I remember when Star Wars fans were so happy when he voiced the Emperor is Season 4, and his role in the Prequels is one of the highlights. I think people just like him, and his involvement in Star Wars has been in two of the main trilogies, and a TV show. And he has been going to Star Wars celebrations for a while. He's always been pretty busy. Hes been going to Celebrations since 2012 or 2013 iirc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manakin Skywalker 4,897 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 22 hours ago, Mattris said: Sam Witwer voiced Palpatine during the Star Wars Rebels Season 2 premiere. Ian McDiarmid returned for episodes in Season 4. My point is that his recent increased presence is curious. My mistake, I thought you were referring to the Clone Wars for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 2 hours ago, Mattris said: It looks like Rey repaired her lightsaber. Hopefully, the film can do the same for the trilogy... and fandom. I don't know how she'd fix the one that blew up. And the trilogy is fine. It doesn't need fixing. mstrox 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 27, 2019 Share Posted March 27, 2019 11 minutes ago, Demodex said: I don't know how she'd fix the one that blew up. And the trilogy is fine. It doesn't need fixing. Duct tape! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 8 hours ago, Demodex said: I don't know how she'd fix the one that blew up. And the trilogy is fine. It doesn't need fixing. You can see a brown strap around the area it snapped in half. As long as the kyber crystal wasn't damaged, a lightsaber repair manual within the Jedi texts should be enough for the do-it-all Rey to put it back together. Don't kid yourself. TFA and TLJ are not "fine" without a worthy (and plot-hole-filling) conclusion. My 'Palpatine theory' could make sense of things and lead to an ultimately powerful climax and conclusion of the saga. Anything less, and this sequel trilogy will not have been worth it to significant percentage of fans. leeallen01 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 24 minutes ago, Mattris said: Anything less, and this sequel trilogy will not have been worth it to significant percentage of fans. But will Disney give a fuck once the box office soars past 2 billion? The Illustrious Jerry and Bilbo 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Disney Star Wars... it still sounds unbelievably bizarre to me. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 The box office profits - or losses in the case of SOLO - are not that important for Disney. The most important factor is keeping the vast majority of Star Wars fans on-board, which will result in long-term health of the franchise. Like it or not, many people - I estimate about half of the fans - are not impressed with Disney's handling so far. The lackluster SW merchandise sales are an indication of this. If Palpatine does not return in IX in some significant way, I'll be absolutely shocked if it makes TFA money. leeallen01 and Demodex 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Perhaps it'll be Palpatine's son, who's after revenge for the death of his father. bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Mattris said: The box office profits - or losses in the case of SOLO - are not that important for Disney. The most important factor is keeping the vast majority of Star Wars fans on-board, which will result in long-term health of the franchise. Like it or not, many people - I estimate about half of the fans - are not impressed with Disney's handling so far. The lackluster SW merchandise sales are an indication of this. If Palpatine does not return in IX in some significant way, I'll be absolutely shocked if it makes TFA money. Take this to the disenfranchisement thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, Mattris said: I'll be absolutely shocked if it makes TFA money. We'll have to see how Endgame does, but apart from that, nothing in the near future will make TFA money. Nothing. Even Infinity War didn't quite surpass it. For another SW film to come even close, we'd need another multiple decade hiatus. Bayesian and The Illustrious Jerry 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Not sure why TFA did so well. Especially since the reception to the prequels had festered for so long and it seemed like hardly anyone was interested in Star Wars anymore. Gruesome Son of a Bitch 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Because it wasn't the prequels? bollemanneke 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Just now, Holko said: Because it wasn't the prequels? Still, the brand was weakened significantly from prequel bashing, which logically should have resulted in a lot of caution from audiences recoiling at the thought of a repeat of experiencing more films with their level of corniness and hammy acting. And yet they didn't! They flocked to create an unprecedented $250+ million opening weekend. I can't work it out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Bilbo 3,709 Posted March 28, 2019 Popular Post Share Posted March 28, 2019 The prequels didn’t do nearly as much damage as people think. In fact, I don’t think they did any damage. I’ve never heard of someone who stopped watching Star Wars because of them and it introduced a whole new generation to the saga. Mattris, The Illustrious Jerry, bollemanneke and 1 other 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 @dougie Two reasons: No George Lucas. Original trilogy characters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 6 minutes ago, Demodex said: @dougie No George Lucas. Were general audiences normies even aware of this? Mattris 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Yes, at least to the second one. Chewie and Han were in the trailer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I honestly had no idea an elderly Hans Olo was that much a drawcard. I'm such a 90s kid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I grew up with the OT so it was a big deal. I wasn't excited at all about the new trilogy until I saw that trailer. Even then I was skeptical but figured it couldn't be worse than the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I enjoy the prequels but I'm quite aware that things I like struggle to make a good impression on the mainstream. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Either you edited or I didn't see you were asking about the George Lucas part. I would assume a lot of people knew that Lucas sold everything to Disney. It was pretty big news. But when the trailers still have the Lucasfilm logo I guess a lot of people would have assumed Lucas had something to do with this trilogy. So that was probably not as big of a draw as OMG Han and Chewie are on the Falcon again!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I remember being like "Suddenly everyone else loves Han Solo?" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chen G. 3,949 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Holko said: We'll have to see how Endgame does, but apart from that, nothing in the near future will make TFA money. Nothing. Even Infinity War didn't quite surpass it. For another SW film to come even close, we'd need another multiple decade hiatus. Alita's profits may suggest otherwise, but I'd suggest not to underestimate James Cameron's Avatar sequels when it comes to revenue. The man's the god of the box-office. 1 hour ago, Holko said: Because it wasn't the prequels? More accurately, because it was prequels. People treat prequels and sequels differently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ollie 1,059 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Harrison Ford was responsible for part of TFA’s box office. That’s why his roll was the largest of the original characters. I’d say his character is the most popular of the main 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,529 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 I was never big on Han as a kid, he was just the fun side character. I loved 3PO, Luke, Chewie and the Ewoks, in that order. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 3 hours ago, dougie said: I remember being like "Suddenly everyone else loves Han Solo?" We never stopped loving Han. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
#SnowyVernalSpringsEternal 10,265 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 57 minutes ago, El Jefe said: Harrison Ford was responsible for part of TFA’s box office. That’s why his roll was the largest of the original characters. I’d say his character is the most popular of the main 3. For die hard fans it's all about Luke though Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted March 28, 2019 Author Share Posted March 28, 2019 TLJ actually pushed Luke ahead of Han as my favorite Star Wars character. Great character arc. Unlucky Bastard 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeinAR 1,949 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Too bad Mark Hamill is a horrible actor. gets upstaged by a damn puppet Gruesome Son of a Bitch and John 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 Han is to the Star War trilogy what Venkman is to the Ghostbusters series. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mattris 416 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 On 28/03/2019 at 7:14 AM, Demodex said: Take this to the disenfranchisement thread. You said, "the trilogy is fine. It doesn't need fixing." To which I replied, "TFA and TLJ are not "fine" without a worthy (and plot-hole-filling) conclusion. My 'Palpatine theory' could make sense of things and lead to an ultimately powerful climax and conclusion of the saga. Anything less, and this sequel trilogy will not have been worth it to significant percentage of fans." This comment received a like... and it is true. I'll post where I please, thank you very much. On 28/03/2019 at 7:30 AM, Holko said: We'll have to see how Endgame does, but apart from that, nothing in the near future will make TFA money. Nothing. Even Infinity War didn't quite surpass it. For another SW film to come even close, we'd need another multiple decade hiatus. Or, you know, they could just make a great Star Wars movie, liked by (nearly) every one. On 28/03/2019 at 7:44 AM, dougie said: Still, the brand was weakened significantly from prequel bashing, which logically should have resulted in a lot of caution from audiences recoiling at the thought of a repeat of experiencing more films with their level of corniness and hammy acting. And yet they didn't! They flocked to create an unprecedented $250+ million opening weekend. I can't work it out. Never underestimate Star Wars fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unlucky Bastard 7,782 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 They're sort of fine in that they're just mediocre. The Disney era films lack the bite or the attack that the prequels had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Demodex 557 Posted March 28, 2019 Share Posted March 28, 2019 1 minute ago, dougie said: They're sort of fine in that they're just mediocre. The Disney era films lack the bite or the attack that the prequels had. But they're more watchable than the prequels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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