Bayesian 1,363 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 10 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: The world can be divided into two types of people. Those who find this image adorable and those who are lost Cute maybe. But pairing it with Ryan Reynolds’ voice + an endless litany of smartass one-liners makes me reach for the mute button. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Illustrious Jerry 3,356 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Pikachu is the next Deadpool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Detective Pikachu is an unfortunate consequence of meme culture becoming marketable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I thought it was a porg. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Detective Pikachu started life as a videogame, not a meme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detective_Pikachu Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 16 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: Detective Pikachu started life as a videogame, not a meme. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detective_Pikachu I'm talking more about how the movie looks manufactured to make ironic memes. "Isn't it wacky that they made that?!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 To be fair.... it's pretty wacky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I thought Detective Pikachu had weak CGI, boy was I wrong - this film looks like an instant flop! How do they think they can get away with this shitty CG nonsense? 17 years ago we had Gollum! If I see this, I'll see it for Jim Carrey. Not Mr. Big 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Not Mr. Big 4,639 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 I can't wait to see this classic scene brought to life! Cerebral Cortex 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John 2,032 Posted April 30, 2019 Author Share Posted April 30, 2019 I want Sonic to say the f word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 hours ago, Disco Stu said: It's pronounced "sonn ick sucks" Oh, and you only get two syllables: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 23 minutes ago, Nick Parker said: Oh, and you only get two syllables If we're talking Dreamcast era (minus Sonic & His Shitty Friends) then I'm totally on board. I LOVE games like Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, and House of the Dead 2 (also that great Looney Tunes cart racer but that wasn't Sega). Kasey Kockroach 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nick Parker 3,040 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 6 minutes ago, Disco Stu said: If we're talking Dreamcast era (minus Sonic & His Shitty Friends) then I'm totally on board. I LOVE games like Shenmue, Crazy Taxi, and House of the Dead 2 (also that great Looney Tunes cart racer but that wasn't Sega). Sakamoto in the house! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted April 30, 2019 Share Posted April 30, 2019 Can’t believe they went with this character model. Do they not do focus testing?! Why does he have human teeth? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Did somebody say Crazy Taxi? Time to make some crazy money! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 20 minutes ago, Ghostbusters II said: Did somebody say Crazy Taxi? Time to make some crazy money! YAH YAH YAH YAH YAH Koray Savas 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Take me to Tower Records! Nick Parker 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jay 37,369 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 OMG Crazy Taxi, great times! Simpsons Road Rage was a great knock off too! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 A franchise that seriously need to come back! I think it's been 12 years since the last one (not counting mobile, which doesn't count). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I checked out the mobile version last night and the songs and product placement were removed. It just wasn't the same. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Older games like Crazy Taxi and Tony Hawk aren’t the same without their iconic soundtracks. Even GTA Vice City lost some of its 80s hits when Rockstar ported it over to PS4. For some reason music licenses are treated differently with games and TV shows than movies. Scrubs, for instance, has a much different soundtrack now compared to the DVD releases, and even more different when compared to the original airings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Disco Stu 15,495 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I dunno. I'd gladly play a new Crazy Taxi without the Offspring in 2019. I'd probably play it muted listening to a podcast or something anyway! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Zimmer 211 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 I saw this thread and wanted to laugh. But then I remembered: Jurassic Shark 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jurassic Shark 12,079 Posted May 1, 2019 Share Posted May 1, 2019 Your finest score! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 Apparently, this is Sonic's new design for the movie: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 At least he looks like Sonic now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Giftheck 916 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Could actually be a fun film now, without the nightmare fuel version of Sonic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Glad they fixed they fixed the design of Sonic, but holy moly the CGI is so terrible that this looks like it came out fifteen years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 Design has been improved but the film still looks like a steaming pile of shit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted November 12, 2019 Share Posted November 12, 2019 I liked Sonic design, but gosh, the CGI looks horrendous! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Koray Savas 2,251 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 It looks fine, ya bunch of whiners. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I think as maligned as the old design is, it seemed like they were going for a more realistic aesthetic. Now Sonic looks strangely anachronistic almost in the same way that the cartoon characters look like in Who Framed Roger Rabbit - however there was an explanation in that film for their appearance and it was the first of it's kind with feature-length rotoscope animation. Here it looks like Sonic was literally a model transported from one of the later games without factoring in the hyper-realistic pixar-quality detail that's needed to place him in the real world. Detective Pikachu was just pushing it, but barely and that's why I find these films reprehensible because they don't have the budget to fret over CG and the audience they're catering to don't give a damn. If they can't create convincing CG characters on the level of Weta Digital's Gollum, then they should go all-out CGI animation and close the gap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gruesome Son of a Bitch 6,488 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Looks fucken terrible. I realise you're just giving this all way too much thought in regards to the animation when you compare to Roger Rabbit, but come on! That was a great flick about a depressed alcoholic private eye getting his life back on track in 1940s Hollywood while the classic Disney and Warner Brothers characters shared the screen for the first and only time. THIS is a ridiculous Japanese video game movie for little kids. Very strictly for little kids. You guys are actually interested in this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 Oh no, I'm not criticizing Who Framed Roger Rabbit @Gruesome Son of a Bitch I was using it as a contrast to how poor the CGI looks in this film. In the age of de-ageing, resurrecting dead actors and Gollum and Thanos, how do these corporations square this shitty CG with the likes of Weta Digital, ILM, DreamWorks and Pixar? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted November 13, 2019 Share Posted November 13, 2019 I feel like we're really failing to keep in mind the fact that the work here had to likely be heavily crunched to get it looking like it does, even after the delay. As such, it's impressive they've managed to make it look as nice as it does. It obviously needs refinement for sure, but kudos to the VFX team for making it look as presentable as it could be in the time given. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Anyone listening/listened to this score yet? I just started it; Holkenborg has definitely been improving. Really excited to see what else is in store for his film music career! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
crumbs 14,317 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Seriously? If that's "improved" then your bar must be pretty damn low. Sounds as generic as all the other mass-produced garbage churned out by Hollywood composers these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 I’m pretty sure there’s some actual woodwinds in this: Tbf I’ve been a critic of Junkie XL, but this doesn’t sound too bad. Tydirium 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post thestat 348 Posted February 14, 2020 Popular Post Share Posted February 14, 2020 This is so clearly part of the whole Holkenborg/Pope partnership that started with Mortal Engines. The score is mostly orchestral and very good at times. But it does suffer from the same thing that everyone of these contemporary Debneyfied scores do - it's all over the place and it's difficult to get a sense of where the whole thing is going. Goldsmith used to hit these scores out of the park to compose cohesive works that would also work on CD, LP. Holkie's ideas are not too bad here and you can sense that he tries to maintain consistency but the whole thing is a bit too mickey-mousey to work that effectively. At the end of the day, though, it shows that we should not be castigating Der Junk into some Zimmerified, Balfed, category but consider him as a very viable composer with a very clear style. I mean, if anything comes from this, it's that there is a clear unique Junkie XL orchestral sound that links to Alita, for example. DemonStar, Edmilson and Tydirium 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fargo 297 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 What is his criteria when choosing what name he puts on an album? Is it his choice or the studio's to show Holkenborg or Junkie XL? Because this one is TH, but Divergent was Junkie for example. And then Mad Max was 'Tom Holkenborg AKA Junkie XL'. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 Is it true that Jon Broxton once criticized Junkie on Facebook or something, and then Zimmer went berserk after him on social media? I remember reading something like that somewhere. But I dunno, like or not his music, Zimmer seems like a pretty good, decent person, not your typical internet troll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TownerFan 4,983 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 3 hours ago, Alex said: I’m pretty sure there’s some actual woodwinds in this: Tbf I’ve been a critic of Junkie XL, but this doesn’t sound too bad. FYI, most of the score was composed by Antonio Di Iorio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alex 2,835 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 23 minutes ago, TownerFan said: FYI, most of the score was composed by Antonio Di Iorio Ah of course, the classic RCP move. gkgyver 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tydirium 1,167 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 6 hours ago, crumbs said: Seriously? If that's "improved" then your bar must be pretty damn low. Sounds as generic as all the other mass-produced garbage churned out by Hollywood composers these days. ? No. 1. He has been slowly but surely getting better. ALITA was a breakthrough score for him, and even reviewers like Southall and Broxton concur; I'm not really a fan of his stuff prior to that. 2. Where did I ever say that "improved" means that he's all of a sudden better than everyone else? He started off as one of the furthest below my bar. Are you really saying that it is impossible for him to improve? The fact is he's better than what he used to be; he used to be awful. Where/how does that imply that I suddenly think he's a genius? Weird comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Edmilson 7,466 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 1 hour ago, Alex said: Ah of course, the classic RCP move. Don't worry, soon Di Iorio will have earned enough money to hire his own minions to the hard work for him, while he gets credited for the score. Junkie, Balfe and almost everyone there started this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterTech 994 Posted February 14, 2020 Share Posted February 14, 2020 There's just no winning when an RCP composer is talked about here. If it turns out bad, then it's a factory produced mess. If it's good, then surely it wasn't because of the guy who's name is on the front cover. Not to say that there isn't any merit in figuring out what exactly happens in the production of a score by the company, but it gets us nowhere if it's constantly the same jokes and comments. Might as well start saying that now the hired minions have to get their own hired guns when Zimmer is expected to deliver a score in 6 hours. Tydirium and TSMefford 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Just came back from the film - another safe, lazy earth-centric story that felt like a spiritual twin to Detective Pikachu. I always complained how poor the CGI was, but the story turned out to be worse than the effects, making them somewhat inoffensive. The score didn't sound like the typical Holkenborg output, and much like Alita and Mortal Engines, he's clearly trying to do more than just ape Zimmer or provide endless drum loops; he's developing some orchestral voice. It just didn't stand out in the film, and that was also hampered by the mixing which relegated the score to background wallpaper. The Detective Pikachu score from Henry Jackmam had some kind of synth element to the score which I was hoping Holkenborg would've also implemented to perhaps link it to the 8-bit style of the original Sonic games. I think what I find frustrating about this score (and Alita) is that I remember liking it in the film, but I can't remember them outside and removed from the context. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holko 9,526 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 1 minute ago, Arpy said: 8-bit style of the original Sonic games 16! Genesis does what Nintendon't. Kasey Kockroach and Unlucky Bastard 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arpy 4,145 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Oh yeah, that's what I meant! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kasey Kockroach 2,344 Posted February 15, 2020 Share Posted February 15, 2020 Using woodwinds = evolving one’s musical voice Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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